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department of justice has told lawmakers it's released all the legally required files related to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

司法部已告知議員，已發布所有與定罪的性犯罪者傑佛瑞·愛潑斯坦相關的法定要求文件。

In a letter to Congress, the Justice Department described the redactions it made in the Epstein files.

在一封致國會的信中，司法部說明瞭愛潑斯坦文件中的塗改部分。

It also listed numerous high profile people mentioned in the documents.

它也列出了文件中提到的許多高知名度人士。

Even if some had no interactions with Epstein, some lawmakers insist many significant files remain unpublished.

即使有些人與愛潑斯坦沒有互動，一些議員仍堅持許多重要文件尚未發布。

Republican Congressman Thomas Massie has accused the Trump administration of attempting to the full release.

共和黨國會議員湯瑪斯·馬西指控川普政府試圖全面釋放。

I spoke about this a short while ago with Scott Lucas, professor of American Studies from the University College of Dublin.

我剛才和都柏林大學學院美國研究教授 Scott Lucas 談了這件事。

I asked him for his analysis of the Justice Department's claim that it has now released all Epstein files.

我請他分析司法部聲稱已發布所有愛潑斯坦文件的說法。

It was required to the latest statement by the Justice Department and Attorney General Pam Bondi, which is a legally required statement under the bill passed last November for the release of the Epstein files.

這是根據司法部和總檢察長 Pam Bondi 的最新聲明，這是一份根據去年十一月通過的愛潑斯坦文件釋出法案所做的法定要求聲明。

It's an ongoing stonewall to try to protect powerful individuals, and that may include Donald Trump.

這是一場持續的阻撓，試圖保護有權勢的個人，其中可能包括唐納·川普。

The reason why I say this is that contrary to the notion that all the files have been released, of course, less than half have been released.

我之所以這麼說，是因為跟認為所有文件都已發布的說法恰恰相反，當然，只有不到一半的文件被發布了。

2.7 million pages were released about two weeks ago.

大約兩週前發布了 270 萬頁的文件。

More than 3 million pages were not released.

有超過 300 萬頁的文件沒有被發布。

Even in the 2.7 million pages that were released, there were many, many heavy redactions, including the names of those who might be potential co conspirators of Jeffrey Epstein.

即使在已發布的 270 萬頁文件中，也有許多、許多嚴重的塗改，包括傑佛瑞·愛潑斯坦潛在共謀者的名字。

The statement by bond day on Saturday follows her appearance last week at the House Judiciary Committee where she effectively refused to answer questions, refused even to look at the survivors of Epstein who were in that room, and

邦迪女士週六的聲明，是在她上週出席眾議院司法委員會之後發表的，當時她實際上拒絕回答問題，甚至拒絕看著在場的愛潑斯坦倖存者，而且

effectively insulted lawmakers if they tried to press her for further information.

如果議員們試圖追問更多資訊，她實際上是侮辱了他們。

So no, this, this should not be seen as some mistaken headlines have said that this is suddenly a complete revelation of everything around Epstein.

所以不，這，這不應該被視為一些錯誤的標題所說的，這突然間就是愛潑斯坦事件的全面揭露。

When you're talking about the Justice Department trying to highlight the name of Janis Joplin, who died when Jeffrey Epstein was 17.

當你談論司法部試圖強調珍妮絲·喬普林的名字時，她去世時傑佛瑞·愛潑斯坦才 17 歲。

This is a diversion which is actually trying to hide as it has been hidden for many months.

這是一種轉移視線，實際上是在試圖隱藏，就像過去幾個月一樣。

Well, Scott, I gather from what you're saying that you believe that something is being hidden, but

嗯，史考特，從你說的話我得知，你認為有什麼東西被隱藏了，但是

do you feel that the release of files and memos to date is sufficient to maybe understand pretty much what went on in the Epstein case sufficiently?

你覺得到目前為止釋出的文件和備忘錄，足以讓你充分了解愛潑斯坦案的來龍去脈嗎？

I think if you go to almost every survivor who has spoken out about this to their lawyers, they have said absolutely not.

我想如果你去問每一個為此發聲的倖存者，問他們的律師，他們都會說絕對不是。

They have said that many of the testimonies of those survivors have not been released yet or have been heavily redacted.

他們說，很多倖存者的證詞還沒有釋出，或者被大幅塗改了。

They have said that the names of men are being withheld in the files.

他們說，文件裡隱藏了許多男性的名字。

Last week, finally, the Justice Department allowed some lawmakers to go in and see some of the files that had been released but had been heavily redacted.

上週，司法部終於允許一些議員進去查看一些已釋出但被大幅塗改的文件。

And even though those lawmakers could only see a small fraction of the files, they found the names of powerful men that had been hidden and the ones that had been unredacted.

即使那些議員只能看到一小部分的檔案，他們還是發現了被隱藏起來的權貴名字，以及那些未被塗改的部分。

For example, includes Les Wexner, a retail magnet, 88 years old, who allegedly, allegedly was involved in the crimes of Jeffrey Epstein.

例如，包括零售業巨頭、88歲的Les Wexner，他據稱，據稱參與了傑佛瑞·愛潑斯坦的罪行。

There's the name of a sheikh that was also released.

還有一個謝赫的名字也被釋出了。

That sheikh has now resigned as the head of DP World, one of the largest container companies.

這位謝赫已經辭去了全球最大貨櫃公司之一DP World的領導職務。

I can also tell you that there is further information about Donald Trump which is probably withheld in the files by, by chasing fragments that we have seen in the files that have been released so far.

我也可以告訴你，關於唐納·川普還有更多資訊，可能被隱藏在文件裡，這是根據我們目前看到的已釋出文件裡的零碎線索推測的。

Well, I wanted to ask you specifically about Donald Trump because many people are talking about what is not known.

不過，我想特別問你關於唐納·川普的事，因為很多人都在討論那些未知的部分。

And of course it's very diffic to determine what is not known, but what is known.

當然，要確定什麼是未知的，什麼是已知的，這非常困難。

To what degree has President Trump himself been implicated in the Epstein files?

川普總統本人在愛潑斯坦的檔案中，被牽扯的程度有多深？

I must stress at the outset there is no conclusive evidence yet that Donald Trump is implicated in the crimes of Jeffrey Epstein.

我必須一開始就強調，目前還沒有確鑿的證據顯示唐納·川普與傑佛瑞·愛潑斯坦的罪行有關。

However, there is one document that made it through and then was withdrawn for a while, which was an 86 page document with listing co conspirators, potential co conspirators of Jeffrey Epstein.

不過，有一份文件確實被放行了，後來又被撤回了一段時間，這是一份長達86頁的文件，列出了傑佛瑞·愛潑斯坦的共謀者、潛在共謀者。

Another document that did make it through was a list of claims that were made to the FBI to be followed up about people who had been involved with Epstein in sexual abuse, even rape.

另一份被放行的文件，是一份向FBI提出的、需要跟進的指控清單，內容是關於那些曾與愛潑斯坦有染，涉及性虐待甚至強姦的人。

And one of those claims, a serious claim, involves Donald Trump.

其中一項指控，一項嚴重的指控，就涉及唐納·川普。

That particular claim about Trump, that he and Epstein were involved in the rape of a girl between 13 and 15 between 1983 and 1985, was deemed so serious by the FBI that in 2019 they interviewed the alleged victim.

這項關於川普的具體指控，聲稱他和愛潑斯坦在1983年至1985年間，一起強姦了一名13至15歲的女孩，FBI認為這項指控非常嚴重，於是在2019年採訪了據稱的受害者。

They interviewed her a day before Epstein died in prison.

他們在她死於獄中前一天採訪了她。

The woman when, according to the transcript, is heavily redacted.

這名女子，根據記錄，大部分內容都被塗改了。

But according to the portions of her interview with the FBI, 2019, when she was shown a photo of Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump, she became agitated and said please crop the image of Donald Trump out of this photograph.

但根據她 2019 年接受 FBI 採訪的內容，當她看到傑佛瑞·愛潑斯坦和唐納·川普的照片時，她變得激動，並說請把唐納·川普從這張照片裡裁掉。

So in that release document, she does not directly accuse Donald Trump of the sexual assault about which the FBI had had a tip, but

所以在那份釋出的文件中，她並沒有直接指控唐納·川普性侵，儘管 FBI 曾收到關於此事的線報，但

she is agitated at the mention of Trump's name.

提到川普的名字時，她就會變得激動。

At the end of that 302, the record of that investigative interview, the witness asked to be excused and the FBI says it will follow up soon with another interview with her.

在那份 302 文件，也就是調查訪談記錄的最後，證人要求離開，FBI 則表示將很快與她進行另一次訪談。

We do not know if that interview was conducted.

我們不知道那次訪談是否進行了。

Scott, thank you very much for talking to Us again today.

Scott，非常感謝你今天再次接受我們的訪問。

That was Scott Lucas, professor of American Studies at the Clinton Institute, University College Dublin.

這是都柏林大學學院克林頓學院美國研究教授 Scott Lucas。

Let's try and make sense of this with Jason Campadonia, who is a journalist with NBC News and iHeartradio.

讓我們來聽聽 NBC 新聞和 iHeartradio 的記者 Jason Campadonia 的分析。

A lot of us lawmakers then disagreeing with the Justice Department's assertion that it's released all of these Epstein related documents.

許多議員都不同意司法部聲稱已釋放所有與傑佛瑞·愛潑斯坦相關的文件。

Well, this is turning in to be a typical lawyer fight, right?

嗯，這變成了一場典型的律師爭鬥，對吧？

So one lawyer interprets the law this way, another lawyer interprets it this way.

所以一位律師這樣解釋法律，另一位律師則那樣解釋。

And a lot of the lawmakers in the United States have some sort of law background.

美國的許多議員都有法律背景。

So they're throwing everything that they can at it and hoping that it is interpreted the way they want it to be interpreted.

所以他們使出渾身解數，希望能以他們想要的方式被解釋。

Obviously, the Department of Justice didn't interpret it interpret the transparency law the way that was intended when it was written.

顯然，司法部並沒有按照當初撰寫時的意圖來解釋這項透明度法案。

So now you have the typical, okay, this guy, you know, they're not doing what we're asking, but

所以現在你就看到典型的，好吧，這傢伙，你知道的，他們沒有照我們說的做，但是

according to their interpretation of the law, they are doing what they're asking.

根據他們對法律的解釋，他們正在做他們要求的事。

So it really boils down to a bunch of lawyers in a room throwing mud at each other.

所以這真的變成一群律師在房間裡互相抹黑。

One of the lawyers, the lawmakers biggest concerns are the missing internal Justice Department memos about why Epstein and his associates weren't charged earlier.

其中一位律師，議員們最大的擔憂是司法部內部關於愛潑斯坦及其同夥為何沒有被起訴的失蹤備忘錄。

How important are those documents to understand what really happened?

這些文件對於瞭解真相有多重要？

Well, right now we don't know because they haven't been released.

嗯，現在我們不知道，因為它們還沒有發布。

So we don't really know how in depth and why they decided to prosecute some, not prosecute others.

所以我們不太清楚他們為何決定起訴某些人，而不起訴其他人，以及其深度為何。

We're not exactly sure what those internal memos say at this point.

此時此刻，我們不太確定那些內部備忘錄的內容。

What we do know and what we have learned over the past couple of months through the following this trial is that there are some massive names involved in this and they may have bigger implications than what most people think.

我們所知道的，以及在過去幾個月追蹤這場審判所學到的，是有一些大咖牽涉其中，而且他們可能比大多數人想像的還有更大的影響。

Presidents, lawmakers, CEOs, celebrities, all of these people are tied to Epstein somehow some way, either through some sort of email, some sort of communication.

總統、議員、執行長、名人，這些人都以某種方式與愛潑斯坦有關聯，無論是透過某種電子郵件、某種通訊。

So you can't release some sort of internal memo if it just says, you know, celebrity A was at a party.

所以你不能發布某種內部備忘錄，如果它只寫著，你知道的，名人 A 參加了派對。

That could have heavy implications in Hollywood for their livelihood, you know, and everybody that that money touches.

這可能會對好萊塢的生計產生重大影響，你知道的，以及所有那些錢所接觸到的人。

And it really will boil down to where does the money lie and how does it affect the US and basically the world.

這真的會歸結於錢在哪裡，以及它如何影響美國，基本上是全世界。

If these internal memos are released, there might be some heavy implications.

如果這些內部備忘錄被發布，可能會有一些重大的影響。

So they're trying to be very careful, as far as I can tell.

所以，據我所知，他們正試圖非常小心。

So we have these millions of files mixing political figures and people who had almost no real connection to Epstein, even, as you say, celebrities.

所以我們有這些數百萬份文件，混合了政界人士和幾乎與愛潑斯坦沒有真正聯繫的人，甚至，正如你所說的，還有名人。

So how then do we make sense of these names?

那麼，我們該如何理解這些名字呢？

You know, the head of the LA 28, the Olympics 28, coming here to Los Angeles, Casey Wasserman, highfalutin, high talent, you know, talent agency manager.

你知道，洛杉磯奧運會 28 的負責人，凱西·沃瑟曼，一位聲名顯赫、才華橫溢的經紀人。

But all we know is that he sent a couple of emails to Epstein's girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, and

但我們只知道他寄了幾封電子郵件給愛潑斯坦的女友吉斯蘭·麥斯威爾，

這就是我們目前所知道的一切。

Like you said, there's millions of pages of documents that we have to comb through.

就像你說的，有數百萬頁的文件需要我們仔細審閱。

So if he was involved in some sort of illicit behavior, I'm sure the Department of Justice would have, you know, brought charges against him.

所以如果他涉及任何不法行為，我相信司法部早就提起訴訟了。

But now he's selling off his talent agency under pressure, under public pressure.

但現在他在公眾壓力下，被迫出售他的經紀公司。

And the LA28 committee has said, hey, look, we've reviewed Wasserman's involvement, so it's okay.

而洛杉磯 28 的委員會表示，他們已經審查了沃瑟曼的參與情況，所以沒問題。

But guys like Chris Tucker, celebrity, he's a comedian.

但像克里斯·塔克這樣的名人，一位喜劇演員。

He was pictured next to Epstein at a couple of parties.

他曾被拍到和愛潑斯坦一起參加了幾場派對。

It's rich guys doing rich things and that should be okay.

這是富人做富人的事，這應該是沒問題的。

If you're at a party and there's a bad guy at a party, well, you didn't know that guy was gonna be at the party, so why, why should you be held accountable?

如果你在一個派對上，派對上有個壞人，但你不知道那個人會出現在派對上，那你為什麼要負責？

So I think that the general public really needs to just cool their jets and see, see what comes out of all of these internal memos, if they're ever released and exactly what sort of criminal behavior may or may not have taken place.

所以我覺得大家真的該冷靜一點，看看這些內部備忘錄，如果它們有被釋出的話，到底會揭露什麼樣的犯罪行為。

Journalist Jason Campadonia from NBC News and iHeartRadio, thank you.

NBC新聞和iHeartRadio的記者傑森·坎帕多尼亞，謝謝你。