Name: 「如果法塔瓦改變，我們就準備好使用核武」| 以色列伊朗戰爭最新戰況 (“If Fatwa Changes, We’re Open to Nuclear Weapons” | Israel Iran War News Latest)
Uploaded: 2026-03-04T23:04:18.000Z
Duration: 10 min

Let's go straight across now, perhaps the first voice from Tehran that's speaking out on a national media here in Bharat Hamidraza Gholamzadeh.

我們現在直接來看，或許是來自德黑蘭的第一個聲音，在印度的國家媒體上發聲的 Hamidraza Gholamzadeh。

He's the head of the Iran's diplomatic House.

Mr. Hamidraza Gholamzadeh, thank you very much for your time.

Hamidraza Gholamzadeh 先生，非常感謝您的時間。

My first question is that Iran claims it's responding to aggression, but

我的第一個問題是，伊朗聲稱他們是在回應侵略，但

critics argue that it's the proxies that have triggered the escalation.

批評者認為是代理人引發了升級。

Will Iran take responsibility if conflict escalates into a full scale blowout in the Middle East?

如果衝突升級成中東地區全面爆發，伊朗會負責嗎？

Iran had already warned that any attack would translate into a regional war and the nature of this aggression that they have carried out.

伊朗已經警告過，任何攻擊都會轉變成區域戰爭，以及他們所進行的這次侵略的性質。

So the United States is attacking Iran with the help of its proxy, the Israeli regime and with the help of the bases that they have in Arab countries in the region.

所以美國正在透過他們的代理人，也就是以色列政權，以及他們在中東地區阿拉伯國家的基地來攻擊伊朗。

So the proxy war is something that the Americans have already launched against Iran.

所以代理人戰爭是美國已經對伊朗發動的。

So if there are other players involved in retaliation, there is no blame on Iran is actually the way that they have started.

所以如果還有其他玩家介入報復，伊朗其實並沒有責任，這就是他們開始的方式。

They have started a war which result is a regional and they need to pay the price for that.

他們發動了一場戰爭，結果是區域性的，他們需要為此付出代價。

And that's the, you're neither confirming nor denying the involvement of proxies.

這就是，你們既不證實也不否認代理人的介入。

But Iraq, Israel and the US Are claiming they own your airspace, that your air defense mechanisms have been severely, you know, deleted and deflated.

但是伊拉克、以色列和美國聲稱擁有你們的空域，你們的防空機制已經嚴重地，你知道，被摧毀和削弱了。

They're also saying that strategic assets from Tehran's perspective have also come down degraded.

他們也說，從德黑蘭的角度來看，戰略資產也已經下降並受到損害。

Has Iran lost deterrence or is the real retaliation yet to come?

伊朗失去了威懾力，還是真正的報復還沒來？

If Iran had lost the deterrence, the, the Americans would not change their rhetoric and change their objectives.

如果伊朗失去了威懾力，美國就不會改變他們的言論和目標。

At the beginning they said that we are, we want to have a regime change.

一開始他們說，我們要，我們想要政權更迭。

And after that they are changing their goals because they could not achieve that.

之後他們改變了目標，因為他們無法達成。

And we are hearing from President Tony, President Trump saying that the Iranians are asking for negotiations, which is totally wrong and we need to translate it in reverse.

而且我們聽到川普總統說，伊朗人正在尋求談判，這完全是錯誤的，我們需要反向解讀。

So when he says that Iranians want negotiations, it means that President Trump wants talks.

所以當他說 伊朗人想要談判，這代表川普總統想要談判。

And Iran has already said that he's not accepting any talks with the United States or with others.

伊朗已經說過，他們不接受和美國或其他國家進行任何談判。

So no, Iran has not been degraded in its strategic assets and its is deterrence.

所以，伊朗的戰略資產和威懾力並沒有下降。

And most of the damages that the Israelis or the Americans have inflicted upon Iran are just buildings.

以色列或美國對伊朗造成的損害，大多隻是建築物。

They are attacking evacuated buildings and just damaging that.

他們攻擊的是空屋，只是造成損壞。

Neither of the, for example, yesterday they attacked the building of the assembly of Experts, claiming that they have attacked the meeting and the gathering for electing the next leader.

例如，昨天他們攻擊了專家會議的建築，聲稱攻擊了選舉下一任領導人的會議。

The building that they gather is in Tehran.

While one day had Attacked the building in Boom, which is a, an office building, of course, but

其實昨天有攻擊一個建築物，那是一棟辦公大樓，

it was already evacuated and there was no meeting at all.

但那棟樓早就已經撤空了，根本沒有人在開會。

Or many of the military bases and buildings that they have attacked me actually evacuated before.

或是有很多軍事基地和建築物，其實在攻擊前也都已經撤離了。

所以造成的損害並沒有那麼大。

Most of the casualties that you can see on the reports are civilians.

你在報告上看到的大部分傷亡，都是平民。

Civilians who have been in, in their houses, they have been killed or in the schools or the hospitals that they have attacked.

那些平民是在他們家裡，或是學校、醫院被攻擊時喪生的。

Majority of strong, majority of the casualties are civilians.

所以這次的損害一點戰略意義都沒有。

Iran has been attacking the American assets in the region and Israeli interests in the region and the occupied lands of Palestine with the Israel regime as well.

伊朗一直在攻擊該地區的美國資產，以及該地區和巴勒斯坦被佔領土內的以色列利益，還有以色列政權。

Given how things are escalating, is there a rethink on Iran's nuclear deterrence or does that red line still remain?

考量到事態正在升級，伊朗的核威懾策略是否有所調整，或者那條紅線是否依然存在？

Iran had never wanted to have a nuclear weapon.

And one of the main reasons was first, it didn't consider it useful.

其中一個主要原因，首先是，他們認為核武沒有用。

Second, we had a fatwa, a religious order from the Ayatollah Khamenei, the Supreme Leader, banning any acquisition or using or keeping nuclear weapons.

第二，我們有教長哈米尼，也就是最高領袖，發布了一道宗教教令，禁止取得、使用或持有核武。

So with the assassination of supreme leader, the next leader might have a different point of view in terms of religious order and he might not ban access to a nuclear weapon because we are being threatened by the Americans and Israelis both having nuclear weapons.

所以，隨著最高領袖被暗殺，下一任領袖在宗教教令方面可能會持有不同觀點，他可能不會禁止取得核武，因為我們正受到美國和以色列兩國都擁有核武的威脅。

It would be necessary to defend the country.

So maybe the next leader thinks and decide that it would be better to reverse the order and to have some nuclear weapon in that case.

所以，也許下一任領袖會這樣想並決定，在這種情況下，最好扭轉先前的命令，擁有一些核武。

So you're saying you stand by the fatwa of the former supreme leader.

所以你的意思是，你支持前任最高領袖的教令。

But if the new current elect supreme leader, that's Mujtaba Khamenei, decides otherwise, there may be and issues a fresh fatwa, then Iran may then progress or follow a different line.

但如果新任現任當選的最高領袖，也就是穆罕默德·哈梅內伊，決定採取不同的做法，並發布新的教令，那麼伊朗可能會進展或走上不同的路線。

That's very interesting, very important point that you make, Mr. Hamidraza Khalamsade Gholamzadeh.

這是一個非常有趣、非常重要的觀點，哈米德拉扎·戈拉姆扎德先生。

This war is also bringing in, dragging in some of the neighboring Gulf nations.

這場戰爭也正在將一些鄰近的海灣國家捲入其中。

Their businesses, their oil pipelines are being hit.

他們的生意、他們的石油管道都受到了影響。

Could this war not be fought without dragging in Saudi Arabia and some of the other NATO nations?

這場戰爭是不是一定要把沙烏地阿拉伯和其他一些北約國家也拖下水才行？

Iran is attacking military bases and any interest or anyone editing this war against Iran.

伊朗正在攻擊軍事基地，以及任何與這場對抗伊朗的戰爭有關的利益或個人。

So yes, Iran has attacked military bases of the United States hotels where in American forces have been residing in those who have been evacuated from the military Bases.

所以，是的，伊朗確實攻擊了美國的軍事基地，還有美國軍隊駐紮的旅館，並且已經從軍事基地撤離。

Iran has attacked a port, safety port where the Americans were using.

伊朗攻擊了一個港口，一個美國人正在使用的安全港口。

Iran has attacked airports that the Americans have been using.

伊朗攻擊了美國人正在使用的機場。

And Iran has attacked, for example the database of Amazon, which is giving intelligence and data to Israeli different army.

而且伊朗還攻擊了，舉例來說，亞馬遜的資料庫，這個資料庫正在提供情報和數據給以色列的軍隊。

所以伊朗並不是把他們拖下水。

Iran is not attacking those countries and has.

伊朗並沒有攻擊這些國家，而且。

you pipeline oil tankers here by the secretary of Supreme National Security Council on Saturday he answered that we are targeting only anyone who helps the Americans or Israelis in this fight against us.

國家安全最高委員會祕書長說，我們在星期六鎖定的是任何幫助美國人或以色列人在這場對抗我們的戰鬥中的人。

So everyone who has invested in the in the Israeli or American army or are helping them in one way or the other, they would be a legitimate target because they are helping the war against the country.

所以任何投資在以色列或美國軍隊，或以任何方式幫助他們的人，都將成為合法目標，因為他們正在幫助對抗伊朗的戰爭。

Who wants to drag Arab countries into the war is actually Americans and Israelis because they are running out of Indonesia and they are paying a heavy price.

真正想把阿拉伯國家拖下水的是美國和以色列，因為他們已經彈盡糧絕，付出了沉重的代價。

So they want to paid and at the cost of the Arab countries.

他們想讓阿拉伯國家付出代價。

And they want to bring them into the war in order to have their casualties have their weapons and have used them.

他們想把阿拉伯國家拉進戰爭，好讓他們付出傷亡、使用他們的武器。

And after the war they would sell again same munitions, same weapons to the same Arab countries.

戰後，他們會再把同樣的彈藥、同樣的武器賣給這些阿拉伯國家。

So they are trying to bring them into the war.

所以他們正試圖把他們拖進戰爭。

But Iran has already warned that they should not get involved.

不過伊朗已經警告過，他們不應該介入。

But Mr. Gholamzadeh, I must ask you this.

不過 Gholamzadeh 先生，我必須問你這個問題。

You knew that the Americans and the Israelis are watching.

你知道美國和以色列都在看著。

Why do you then have to move the Supreme Leader?

那為什麼你還要移動最高領袖？

And why was that convention with 88 leaders even you know, grouping that that meeting conducted?

還有，那場有 88 位領袖參與的會議，連你也知道，那個聚會是怎麼進行的？

Because he's not a coward like Nathaniel, who represent Trump.

因為他不像代表川普的 Nathaniel 那樣是個懦夫。

And he actually was in the fight and he was commanding the fight.

而且他其實身在戰場，指揮著這場戰役。

這場戰役不是從星期六才開始的。

And he has been the commander in chief and he has been responsible for that.

他一直都是總司令，也一直為此負責。

We have any fear very strongly office doing his job and his tasks and his duties as the leader.

我們非常堅信他作為領導者，有能力做好他的工作、任務和職責。

So he was not covered like Netanyahu to go to the shelters, defending ground or like President Trump moving from this way to the other way to just take refuge.

所以他不像納坦雅胡那樣躲進避難所，防守地面，也不像川普總統那樣四處奔走尋求庇護。

所以，不，他沒有接受這樣做。