Name: 阿里-阿斯特、佩德羅-帕斯卡和華金-菲尼克斯共同演繹《愛丁頓》中的一個場景 (Ari Aster, Pedro Pascal, and Joaquin Phoenix Break Down a Scene from ‘Eddington’)
Uploaded: 2025-07-19T19:21:08.000Z
Duration: 9 min 10 s

And we're doing a scene breakdown for Eddington.

我們正在為《愛丁頓》做場景分解。

Something electric happened while we were shooting, which is, I guess, common for New Mexico, where it goes from, like, sunny and hot to, like, hail within, like, seven minutes.

我們在拍攝的時候發生了電擊事故，我想這在新墨西哥州是很常見的，從晴朗炎熱到下冰雹就在七分鐘之內。

And so we started shooting and setting up that day.

於是我們當天就開始拍攝和佈置。

And it was, like, a beautiful, sunny day.

And just almost immediately, this, like, dark cloud which you see in the background, that's all real.

幾乎就在一瞬間，你在背景中看到的烏雲，都是真實的。

And it was still early enough in the shoot where the hat for Joe is such an important part of who he is.

在拍攝初期，喬的帽子對他來說非常重要。

And it's really kind of, like, this identifying figure of power.

And so it felt important to me to have the hat on in this scene.

是以，在這場戲中戴上帽子對我來說非常重要。

And the wind comes, and it's, like, constantly threatening to blow it off my head, which Joe and I would be really embarrassed if that were to happen.

風來的時候，好像一直在威脅要把我頭上的帽子吹下來，如果那樣的話，喬和我都會很尷尬。

And so it just became about surviving this with, like, as much dignity as possible, right?

所以就變成了儘可能有尊嚴地活下來，對嗎？

Which is exactly what the character is experiencing.

And so the beauty of it was there was all this work.

是以，它的美妙之處就在於所有這些工作。

There was months and years of discussion with Ari about the scene.

我和阿里就這個場景進行了長達數月的討論。

And then there was this moment of just hanging on.

成為正在發生的事情的一部分。

I could feel Ari starting to shake, as he does when things start really moving, and, like, literally physically start shaking.

我能感覺到阿里開始顫抖，就像他在事情開始動起來的時候一樣，身體真的開始顫抖。

And you were, like, you could sense that there was something in the air.

你能感覺到空氣中瀰漫著某種東西。

And you were trying to capture every possibility that might come.

你試圖捕捉可能出現的每一種可能性。

Like, we wouldn't have left except we had to.

除非迫不得已，否則我們是不會離開的。

And I hadn't had my snack, so I was shaking.

我還沒吃點心，所以渾身發抖。

But I, but it was, but the, no, but the weather in New Mexico is so erratic.

但是，新墨西哥州的天氣變化無常。

And we were gonna have to take everything back inside because rain was coming.

我們不得不把所有東西都搬進去，因為雨就要來了。

So we didn't have any time, I didn't have any time to give you guys notes.

所以我們沒有時間，我也沒有時間給你們做筆記。

So I had to, we did, I think, nine takes.

所以我不得不，我想我們拍了九次。

And I had to just run out to you guys, give you the note, and then run back.

我只好跑出去找你們，把紙條給你們，然後又跑回來。

And it's a technocrane shot, so we, you know, it just, but it wasn't safe to have the technocrane out there because the wind was so, was blowing so hard.

這是一個技術起重機的鏡頭，所以我們，你知道，它只是，但它是不安全的有技術起重機在那裡，因為風是如此，被吹得這麼辛苦。

And so we barely got those last two takes.

所以我們勉強完成了最後兩次拍攝。

But I, this was the most technically flawed take because the camera is shaking a lot.

但我認為這是技術上最有缺陷的一次拍攝，因為相機抖動得很厲害。

And I was told that the sound would be unusable.

有人告訴我，聲音將無法使用。

But I still thought, even with bad sound, that I think that has to be the one because it just was alive.

但我還是覺得，即使聲音不好聽，我也覺得那一定是那部，因為它就是有生命的。

我覺得自己就是做這件事的人。

I remember, I remember that feeling with the weather and everything.

我記得，我記得那種天氣和一切的感覺。

It was, it like, the temperature dropped like dramatically and it became freezing.

氣溫急劇下降，變得冰冷刺骨。

And the hat being blown off is incredible because it did get blown off.

帽子被吹掉真是不可思議，因為它確實被吹掉了。

And then you realize that you had to keep it in place or it would get blown off.

然後你就會意識到，你必須把它固定住，否則它就會被吹掉。

But why wouldn't you just, like he, it has to stay on top of his head.  Because he will, because the knife, because- No matter what, we've been laughing about this.

但為什麼你不像他一樣 把刀放在頭頂上呢？  因為他會的，因為那把刀，因為... ...不管怎樣，我們一直在笑這件事。

我不知道，這甚至不像是一個計劃。

That's incredible because then Ted wins if your hat gets blown off.

這太不可思議了，因為如果你的帽子被吹掉，泰德就贏了。

所以，也許我只是對著你的視頻說了幾句話。

Okay, well, why not just ask your governor about her little catch and release policy?

好吧，為什麼不直接問你們州長關於她的 "抓了又放 "政策呢？

Okay, because if it wasn't for that, maybe I could hold onto my deputies and the people we arrest.

好吧，如果不是因為這個，也許我還能抓住我的副手和我們逮捕的人。

I know, I know one of them was fired for excessive force and another one was forced to quit by a YouTube first amendment auditor.

我知道，我知道其中一人因過度使用武力而被解僱，另一人因 YouTube 第一修正案審計員而被迫辭職。

I was gratified to see the chemistry that you both had.

我很高興看到你們倆的化學反應。

Cause I feel like you guys became kind of instant friends, but I also, but you know, you never know when two people are going to work well together.

因為我覺得你們就像一見如故的朋友，但我也知道，你永遠不知道兩個人什麼時候才能合作愉快。

And when it's where there's going to be like kind of a life between two people that, that is just easy.

而當兩個人之間的生活發生了變化，那就很容易了。

And I found that your scenes together were incredibly fun to shoot.

我發現你們在一起的場景拍攝起來非常有趣。

And just kind of, there was just an energy that didn't need to be.

It's funny because it's nothing but an antagonistic.

這很有趣，因為這不過是一種對立。

It's no relationship were it not for its antagonism.

如果不是因為它的對立性，那就沒有任何關係了。

And, and, and I think Joaquin's going to hate this, but like, obviously I was nervous and obviously I was intimidated and, and, and stepping into it with like an overwhelming amount of admiration.

而且，而且，我想華金會討厭這個，但是，就像，很明顯我很緊張，很明顯我被嚇到了，而且，而且，帶著壓倒性的欽佩之情步入其中。

And, and, and, and thank God I'm like, you know, old and lazy because so that, so that I didn't feel like I, so that I couldn't really occupy too much energy on feeling like something needed to be proved.  I knew it was like, this is going to be what it is.

而且，而且，而且，感謝上帝，我就像，你知道，老了，懶了，因為這樣，這樣，我不覺得我，這樣，我真的不能佔用太多的精力，感覺像需要證明的東西。  我知道這就像，這將是它是什麼。

你知道，我，我，我喜歡導演。

And, and beyond that, I don't know what to expect, but it being having a, I think I was like just really overwhelmed with gratitude because I found the both of you to be very, very generous.

除此之外，我不知道還能期待什麼，但我覺得我真的非常感激，因為我發現你們兩位都非常非常慷慨。

And it was so, it was just, it was just, it was just fun to do in that, like having a scene partner and getting to kind of dance.

我覺得這樣做很有趣，有一個場景搭檔，還能一起跳舞。

And I say it's corny, but that's what it feels like.

我說這很老套，但就是這種感覺。

I don't want to, I just, I want to understand it dramaturgically.

我不想，我只是想從戲劇角度理解它。

And it was just, it just was like, it was just so fun to do.

The weather didn't allow us to shoot it as many times as I would have liked to because it was just really fun to act with him.

由於天氣原因，我們沒能像我希望的那樣拍攝很多次，因為和他一起表演真的很有趣。

What I remember very clearly is that Here come the lies.

我記得很清楚的是，謊言來了。

The first time that I walked out of the door in my costume and walked towards you, you started laughing uncontrollably.

我第一次穿著戲服走出家門，走向你的時候，你開始放聲大笑。