Give us a sense of his demeanor and what he was interested in when he sat down.

讓我們瞭解一下他的舉止，以及他坐下來時對什麼感興趣。

So I sat down with him and a few of my colleagues from Businessweek at Mar-a-Lago.

於是，我和他以及《商業週刊》的幾位同事在馬阿拉歌（Mar-a-Lago）坐了下來。

We were there for about 90 minutes.

我們在那裡呆了大約 90 分鐘。

We got 90 minutes with him and we had a very wide ranging conversation about the business the U.S. economy.

我們與他進行了 90 分鐘的交談，內容涉及美國經濟的方方面面。

We talked about Taiwan Russia his legal cases.

我們談到了臺灣俄羅斯他的法律案件。

This was before the shooting and two days before the debate.

這是在槍擊案發生之前，也是在辯論的前兩天。

Just to give you a sense of his mindset.

只是為了讓你瞭解他的心態。

But he was in a great mood.

但他心情很好。

He had just come back from a Louisiana fundraiser.

他剛從路易斯安那州的一個籌款活動上回來。

The fundraising numbers were starting to pick up much faster than they had anticipated.

籌款數字開始回升，比他們預期的要快得多。

The polling was showing him doing really well and starting to expand the map.

民調顯示他的表現非常好，並開始擴大地圖。

And so he was in a great mood.

是以，他的心情非常好。

And that was even before the debate two days later.

這還是在兩天後的辯論之前。

It's pretty incredible stuff that's in this article that everyone should read.

這篇文章中的內容非常令人難以置信，每個人都應該讀一讀。

You can find it on the terminal now and and online.

您現在可以在終端和網上找到它。

The idea on foreign policy is we all get ready to hear Nikki Haley speak this evening who focused so much of her primary campaign on foreign policy that Trump suggested to you that the U.S. may not actually have a duty to defend Taiwan that Taiwan maybe should actually pay the United States for protection.

關於外交政策，我們今晚都準備好聆聽尼基-黑莉（Nikki Haley）的發言，她在初選競選中非常關注外交政策，特朗普向你建議，美國可能實際上沒有義務保衛臺灣，臺灣也許實際上應該向美國支付保護費。

What should we make of that.

我們應該如何看待這個問題？

I thought it was a remarkable moment in the interview.

我認為這是採訪中一個了不起的時刻。

You know we ended up asking a lot of economic questions about sanctions against Russia and we asked about Taiwan sort of as a throwaway question.

你知道，我們最後問了很多關於制裁俄羅斯的經濟問題，還問了臺灣的問題，算是拋磚引玉。

And he he basically came out and said what has Taiwan done for us.

他基本上是站出來說，臺灣為我們做了什麼。

You know we have been Taiwan's insurance policy for years.

要知道，多年來我們一直是臺灣的保險單。

They stole our chips business.

他們搶走了我們的芯片生意。

I'm just not sure it makes sense for us to keep defending them when China wants them so badly.

我只是不確定，在中國如此想要它們的情況下，我們繼續維護它們是否有意義。

It was it was a really remarkable moment.

這真是一個非凡的時刻。

Well there he has gone through and for you to talk to him on the eve of the debate and the weekend that we just had is quite remarkable.

他已經經歷了這些，而你在辯論前夕和我們剛剛度過的這個週末與他交談，真是非常了不起。

Kate talking about fundraising here through the incredible reversal that we've seen I suspect we'll talk to Laura Trump about this a bit later on in fundraising.

凱特在這裡談到了籌款問題，通過我們所看到的令人難以置信的逆轉，我猜想我們稍後會在籌款方面與勞拉-特朗普談談這個問題。

It was two to one for Joe Biden and the way things have turned in Donald Trump's favor has been quite remarkable.

喬-拜登的支持率為 2:1，而唐納德-特朗普的支持率則相當驚人。

Well you have seen some really big you know Silicon Valley billionaires and you know big money people have thrown their support behind the.

你也看到了硅谷的一些大富豪和大財主們對我們的支持。

Now what is now the Trump Vance ticket.

現在的特朗普-萬斯選票。

So it's they were at it long before J.D.

所以他們早在 J.D. 之前就開始了。

Vance even got involved though.

不過，萬斯甚至也參與了進來。

There seemed to be a turning point when you follow the money.

跟著錢走，似乎有一個轉捩點。

There has been.

已經有了。

And you know I talk to people who I sort of like to call them mini donors.

你知道，我和一些人交談過，我喜歡稱他們為 "迷你捐贈者"。

Many big donors.

許多大捐贈者

People on K Street lobbyists who represent big corporations.

代表大公司的 K 街說客。

They don't necessarily give the billions but they're the ones who are there at those you know routine fundraisers giving giving the money directly to the candidate campaigns which you know you get more bang for your buck if you will on those.

他們不一定會捐出數十億美元，但他們會在那些你知道的例行籌款會上直接把錢捐給候選人的競選活動，如果你願意的話，你會在這些活動上得到更多的實惠。

And I think even there there has started to be a plug in in support of Trump as a candidate.

我認為，即使在那裡，也開始出現支持特朗普作為候選人的聲音。

And now you have a lot more.

現在你有了更多。

Well also we should consider here the reports including Bloomberg reporting today.

此外，我們還應該考慮到包括彭博社今天在內的報道。

Elon Musk is committing 45 million dollars per month to a pro Trump PAC America PAC.

埃隆-馬斯克（Elon Musk）每月向支持特朗普的美國政治行動委員會（America PAC）投入 4500 萬美元。

He of course in the aftermath of the announcement of J.D.

當然，在 J.D. 的聲明發布之後，他也是如此。

Vance as the vice presidential pick expressed pleasure with that selection.

作為副總統人選，萬斯對這一選擇表示滿意。

He liked it.

他很喜歡。

We know this means more of the same.

我們知道，這意味著更多的相同之處。

Certainly that is what President Biden tried to suggest in an NBC News interview with Lester Holt that aired last night.

拜登總統在昨晚播出的 NBC 新聞對萊斯特-霍爾特（Lester Holt）的採訪中也試圖表明這一點。

It's not unusual.

這並不稀奇。

He's going to surround himself with people who agree completely with him.

他身邊的人都會完全贊同他的觀點。

I'm voting record.

我的投票記錄。

I support him even though if you go back and listen to the things J.D.

我支持他，儘管如果你回頭聽聽 J.D.

Vance said about Trump.

萬斯談到特朗普時說。

Some of those things that J.D.

J.D.

Vance have said about Trump as we've all become very familiar with at least in the last 24 hours America's Hitler cultural heroine.

至少在過去的 24 小時裡，我們都非常熟悉這位美國的希特勒文化女英雄。

He called him noxious.

他說他有毒。

He says he changed his mind when he was actually President Nancy.

他說，當他真正成為南希總統時，他改變了主意。

But is that essentially what Donald Trump has done here for everything he outlined to you policy wise when you sat down with him.

但是，唐納德-特朗普在這裡所做的一切，基本上就是他在與你坐下來談政策時向你概述的內容。

He expects that J.D.

他希望 J.D.

Vance will follow him on all of that.

萬斯將跟蹤他的所有行動。

Well I think that he has made it very clear that he wants J.D.

我覺得他已經說得很清楚了，他想要J. D.

Vance to be the MAGA era parent.

萬斯將成為 MAGA 時代的家長。

And I think that there is huge implications on foreign policy but also implications of who they want to kind of bring into the Republican tent.

我認為，這不僅對外交政策有巨大影響，而且對他們想把誰帶入共和黨帳篷也有影響。

I think that part of the logic in bringing him on is really to shore up support in the Rust Belt states and also into the states.

我認為讓他上臺的部分原因是為了鞏固 "鐵鏽地帶 "各州以及各州的支持率。

They really need to win Michigan Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

他們確實需要贏得密歇根州賓夕法尼亞州和威斯康星州。

And I think that they he sees Vance as someone who is a great sort of warrior and defender of him on TV.

我認為，在電視上，他把萬斯看作是一個偉大的戰士和捍衛者。

I think they're salivating over the idea of a Vance Harris vice presidential debate in the late summer early fall.

我認為他們對在夏末秋初舉行範斯-哈里斯副總統辯論的想法垂涎欲滴。

And so I think that that's a lot of the reasons why they picked him.

是以，我認為這是他們選擇他的主要原因。

That's going to be something to behold.

這一定會讓你大開眼界。

Assuming that debate happens a big breaker today in the midst of our coverage in Milwaukee and that is Bob Menendez convicted of bribery 16 charges following a two month trial in New York.

假設辯論發生，今天我們在密爾沃基的報道中會有一個重大突破，那就是鮑勃-梅嫩德斯在紐約經過兩個月的審判後被判犯有16項受賄罪。

He pleaded not guilty.

他不認罪。

He's going to appeal.

他要上訴。

What does this mean if anything politically for the Democratic Party.

這在政治上對民主黨意味著什麼？

Well I think Democrats are going to still probably hold that state.

我認為民主黨仍有可能守住該州。

But this is you know when you're looking at the news you've got the people you know the Democratic divisions over President Biden.

但是，當你看新聞的時候，你就會發現民主黨人對拜登總統的分歧。

And is he going to be at the top of the ticket.

他是否會成為候選人中的佼佼者？

It's kind of like more bad news this week for Democrats.

對民主黨人來說，本週的壞消息有點多。

They're just having a it's it's political money.

他們只是在撈政治資本。

It's for an agent.

是給經紀人的

I mean we're talking about you know foreign agents registration act you know and foreign sort of influence that that that he's been now convicted of.

我的意思是，我們正在談論你知道的外國代理人註冊法案 你知道和外國排序的影響，他現在已經被定罪。

So it's it's certainly a troubling story.

是以，這無疑是一個令人不安的故事。

And it's it's been a string of headlines that I think Democrats would have rather not see.

我認為民主黨人更不願意看到這樣的頭條新聞。

Chuck Schumer is calling on him to step down.

查克-舒默呼籲他下臺。

Well those calls roll out or no.

好吧，不管有沒有這些電話。

And I've seen outside groups you know Democratic and you know aligned with you know the Democratic side of the aisle also call on him to step down.

我看到一些外部團體，如民主黨，以及與民主黨陣營一致的團體，也呼籲他下臺。

Other other lawmakers have as well.

其他立法者也是如此。