Name: 伊朗總統雷伊西 | 60分鐘檔案 (Iran's President Ebrahim Raisi | 60 Minutes Archive)
Uploaded: 2026-03-01T21:41:39.000Z
Duration: 14 min 5 s

The United States first placed financial sanctions on Iran back in 1979 during the hostage crisis.

美國最早是在1979年人質危機期間對伊朗實施金融制裁。

state Department has designated Iran one of the world's leading state sponsors of terrorism.

國務院都將伊朗列為全球主要的國家級恐怖主義贊助者。

But the Obama administration, along with five other countries, agreed to billions of dollars in sanctions relief in exchange for Iran's agreement to dismantle much of its nuclear program and open its facilities to extensive international inspection.

但歐巴馬政府與其他五個國家同意解除數十億美元的制裁，交換條件是伊朗同意拆除其核計畫的大部分，並開放設施接受廣泛的國際視察。

The Trump administration, distrusting Tehran, pulled out of the deal and stepped up crushing economic pressure.

川普政府因為不信任德黑蘭，退出了協議，並加大了毀滅性的經濟壓力。

That's where Ibrahim Raisi found himself when he was elected president a year ago.

這就是易卜拉欣·萊西一年前當選總統時所面臨的局面。

Last month, Iran and the 61 year old hardliner were on the verge of striking a new deal.

上個月，伊朗和這位61歲的強硬派領袖即將達成一項新協議。

But then Iran submitted demands that sent the nuclear talks into a stalemate.

但隨後伊朗提出的要求，讓核談判陷入了僵局。

We met President Raisi Tuesday at the presidential compound in Tehran for his first interview with a Western reporter.

週二，我們在德黑蘭的總統府採訪了 Raisi 總統，這是他首次接受西方記者採訪。

I was told how to dress, not to sit before he did, and not to interrupt him.

我被告知了著裝要求，在他坐下前不能坐，也不能打斷他。

We were given one hour for the interview.

Can we start with the negotiations on the nuclear deal?

我們可以從核協議的談判開始嗎？

Because, you know, there are some American officials who are beginning to think that you don't.

因為，你知道，有些美國官員開始認為您不希望如此。

If it's a good deal and fair deal, we would be serious about reaching an agreement.

如果是一份好的、公平的協議，我們會認真考慮達成協議。

If there were a guarantee, then the Americans could not withdraw from the deal.

如果有保證，美國就不能退出協議。

I mean, just as well as we could pull out of the deal.

我的意思是，就像我們也可以退出協議一樣。

You see, the Americans broke their promises.

你知道，美國人違背了他們的承諾。

Now making promises is becoming meaningless.

Are you saying that you cannot trust the Americans?

We cannot trust the Americans because of the behavior that we've already seen from them.

我們無法信任美國人，因為我們已經見識過他們的行為。

That is why if there is no guarantee, there is no trust.

這就是為什麼沒有保證就沒有信任。

The US says the west can't trust Iran, for instance, when it claims its nuclear program is purely for peaceful purposes.

美國說西方國家無法信任伊朗，例如，當伊朗聲稱其核計畫純粹是為了和平用途時。

As far as we can tell, you don't use it for, you know, things that can help your citizens, like electricity.

就我們所知，你們沒有將它用於，你知道的，能幫助你們公民的事物，像是電力。

You say that you want it for peaceful reasons.

你們說你們是為了和平原因才想要的。

像是醫藥、農業、石油、天然氣。

In terms of peaceful purposes, one available figure from the UN nuclear watchdog agency, the IAEA, is that only 1.8% of the country's electricity is generated by nuclear power.

就和平用途而言，聯合國核子監督機構國際原子能總署（IAEA）提供的一個數據顯示，該國只有 1.8% 的電力是由核能產生的。

There seems to be some evidence that you had been working at least before toward a bomb.

似乎有些證據顯示，你們至少曾經朝製造炸彈的方向努力過。

A bomb, a weapon, and that you might be doing that again.

炸彈、武器，而且你們可能又會這麼做。

We have responded to these claims several times.

我們已經針對這些說法回應了好幾次。

They are baseless the Islamic Republic of Iran has said many times that possessing nuclear weapons has no place in our doctrine.

伊朗伊斯蘭共和國已多次表示，擁有核武不在我們的教義範圍內，這些說法毫無根據。

However, the US Intelligence community has assessed with high confidence that Iran did attempt to develop a nuclear bomb in the past.

然而，美國情報界高度確信，伊朗過去曾試圖研發核子彈。

And then there are the American citizens being detained in Tehran, three of whom were born in Iran.

還有在德黑蘭被拘留的美國公民，其中有三位在伊朗出生。

If there is a deal, would you agree to release the four Americans who are being held here from.

如果有協議，你們是否同意釋放這裡被扣押的四位美國人？

There are Iranian nationals also imprisoned inside the U.S.

these people are only in there because they simply tried to circumvent sanctions.

這些人之所以被關押，僅僅是因為他們試圖規避制裁。

And the Americans, we have told them that we can talk to them about this.

至於美國人，我們已告知他們，我們可以就此事與他們進行對話。

It can be conducted separately from the nuclear talks.

It can be done between the two countries.

You're going to speak at the United Nations.

You know President Biden is going to be there.

Are you open to a meeting with President Biden, A face to face?

你是否願意與拜登總統見面，面對面談談？

No, I don't think that such a meeting would happen.

不，我不認為那樣的會面會發生。

I don't believe having a meeting or talk with him will be beneficial.

我不認為與他見面或談話會有幫助。

What do you think the difference is from your perspective between the Trump administration and the Biden administration, The new administration in the U.S.

你認為川普政府和拜登政府，美國新政府，在你眼中最大的不同是什麼？

they claim that they are different from the Trump administration.

他們聲稱他們與川普政府不同。

They have said it in their messages to us, but we haven't witnessed any changes.

他們在給我們的訊息裡這麼說，但我們沒看到任何改變。

His major grievance against President Biden is that he has maintained the sanctions on Iran that President Trump imposed.

他對拜登總統最大的不滿，就是他維持了川普總統對伊朗實施的制裁。

This is a tyranny against the people of Iran.

這對伊朗人民來說是一種暴政。

It is important to us to have the sanctions lifted.

The sanctions thrust Iran into a two year recession, mainly because oil exports from refineries like this one fell overnight from 2.8 million barrels a day to about 200,000.

制裁讓伊朗陷入了兩年的經濟衰退，主要是因為像這裡的煉油廠的石油出口量，從每天280萬桶驟減到約20萬桶。

Businesses have been cut off from international banking.

With inflation today in IRAN at over 40%, virtually everything is more expensive.

由於伊朗目前通膨超過40%，幾乎所有東西都更貴了。

And yet we found traffic here as clogged as in New York.

然而，我們發現這裡的交通壅塞程度跟紐約一樣。

And as we saw, Tehran's bazaars are teeming with shoppers.

而且就像我們看到的，德黑蘭的市集裡擠滿了購物人潮。

我們遇到的那些人都對我們很友善。

One reason for the bustling commerce is something the President calls the resistance economy, in which businesses are encouraged to make more of the things themselves that they used to import.

商業活動如此蓬勃的一個原因，是總統所說的「抵抗經濟」，也就是鼓勵企業多自己製造過去仰賴進口的商品。

那你們知道這些是什麼地方做的嗎？

They also have their own version of Uber Eats called Snap Food.

他們也有一個類似 Uber Eats 的叫 Snap Food。

Iran is home to one of the world's oldest civilizations, dating back to 4000 BC.

伊朗是世界上最古老文明的所在地之一，可以追溯到西元前 4000 年。

It's where the foundations of algebra and chemistry were developed.

這裡發展出了代數和化學的基礎。

Today, while there's attention to religious tradition, tradition in the Islamic Republic, it's one of the most Westernized countries in the Middle east with a well educated population.

今天，雖然大家關注的是宗教傳統，但在伊斯蘭共和國，這裡曾是中東最西化的國家之一，人民受過良好教育。

This mall could be anywhere in America with an ice skating rink, a food court with hot dogs and burgers, and

這間購物中心跟美國的沒兩樣，有溜冰場、美食街賣熱狗和漢堡，還有

And yet President Raisi just signed a decree to making women who don't dress modestly subject to arrest.

然而，Raisi 總統剛簽署了一項法令，規定不穿著端莊的女性將面臨逮捕。

A young woman died Friday after the morality police took her into custody for violating the rules on head coverings.

一名年輕女子週五死亡，當時她因違反頭巾規定被道德警察帶走。

Eyewitnesses say they saw her being beaten while in a police van.

目擊者說，他們看到她在警車裡被毆打。

President Raisi's office says he ordered an investigation.

Raisi 總統辦公室表示，他已下令進行調查。

Syed Ibrahim Raisi descends from the Prophet Muhammad, as his black turban signifies, according to Shiite Muslim tradition.

根據什葉派穆斯林的傳統，Syed Ibrahim Raisi 的黑色頭巾象徵著他源自先知穆罕默德。

He's a hardline conservative cleric, like his mentor, the supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei.

他是一位強硬保守的教士，就像他的導師，最高領袖 Ayatollah Khamenei 一樣。

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