Name: 什麼是《叛亂法》？揭開川普的威脅內幕！ (What is the Insurrection Act? Inside Trump's threat)
Uploaded: 2026-01-15T16:56:49.000Z
Duration: 10 min 5 s

程度副詞

President Trump is now making a new and serious threat after protests in Minneapolis grew even more chaotic overnight.

就在明尼阿波利斯抗議活動連夜變得更加混亂之際，川普總統現在發出了新的嚴重威脅。

And there was another shooting involving a federal agent.

還有另一起涉及聯邦探員的槍擊事件。

情態副詞

This agent allegedly ambushed the president.

Posting this will put it up for you, saying that if Minnesota's politicians don't obey the law and stop the professional agitators and insurrectionists from attacking the patriots of ice, I will institute the Insurrection Act.

發布這則消息是為了讓大家知道，如果明尼蘇達的政客不遵守法律，阻止專業煽動者和叛亂分子攻擊愛國者，我將實施叛亂法案。

So that could lead to him deploying U.S. troops on you, on U.S. oil in that state.

所以這可能會導致他對該州的美國軍隊、對美國石油進行部署。

This, I mean, this has now been taken to a whole new level by the president with this threat.

總統這次的威脅，真的把事情提升到了一個全新的層級。

And I should know that this is something we've heard President Trump, of course, threaten in the past.

而且我應該知道，這也是我們過去聽川普總統威脅過的事情。

He did so during his first term, particularly around the Joy Floyd protests that had erupted in 2020.

他第一次任期時就這麼做過，尤其是在 2020 年爆發的 Joy Floyd 抗議事件期間。

But he also recently did it as well when talking about, you know, wanting to crack down on, you know, different types of protests, but

但最近他也有這麼做，你知道的，在談論想要鎮壓不同類型的抗議時，但是

even more specifically, maybe having the military help with law enforcement and trying to crack down on crime and deportations in cities like Los Angeles, Portland and Chicago.

更具體來說，也許是讓軍隊協助執法，並試圖鎮壓像洛杉磯、波特蘭和芝加哥等城市的犯罪和驅逐出境。

But part of the reason this is such a big deal.

但這件事之所以如此重大，部分原因在於。

Let me just break down what the Insurrection act actually is.

讓我來解釋一下叛亂法案到底是什麼。

It's normally considered a last resort resort for presidents, but

總統通常將其視為最後的手段，但是

it gives presidents the authority to call on active duty militaries.

它賦予總統權力，可以徵召現役軍隊。

You could see potentially people like the Marines or soldiers, National Guard included in that, going into the streets of U.S.

你可能會看到像是海軍陸戰隊或阿兵哥，包括國民警衛隊，進入美國的街道

And it's normally used only in certain specific cases.

而且它通常只會在某些特定情況下使用。

It can be used at the objection of local leaders.

可以在地方領導人反對的情況下使用。

Now, in my conversations with Trump officials, this was true during the first term, but

現在，在我與川普官員的談話中，這在第一任期時就已經是如此，但

even more so now, I should argue, in the president's second term.

我認為，在總統的第二任期，情況更是如此。

They have essentially told me that this is something they do not want, that they've been very hesitant to essentially go there despite the president threatening this.

他們基本上告訴我，這是他們不想要的，儘管總統曾威脅要這麼做，但他們一直非常猶豫是否要這麼做。

Some of that is because of the legal complications, but even more so because of the political ones.

其中一部分是因為法律上的複雜性，但更主要的是政治上的考量。

And, you know, having this type of law enforcement military in the streets, of course, would potentially escalate things so much further.

而且，你知道，這種軍隊執法力量出現在街頭，當然可能會讓事情進一步升級。

And so this has all been a calculation behind the scenes.

所以這一切都是幕後的一番算計。

Of course, our goal today is to figure out how serious the president is actually about this and whether they're actually making plans potentially to do something to invoke this act.

當然，我們今天的目標是弄清楚總統對此有多認真，以及他們是否真的在制定計畫，可能會採取行動來引用這項法案。

Joining U.S. now, Andrew McCabe, CNN senior law enforcement analyst and former deputy director of the FBI.

現在加入我們的是 CNN 資深執法分析師、前 FBI 副局長 Andrew McCabe。

Andrew, thanks so Much for joining us last night.

Andrew，非常感謝您昨晚加入我們。

As you know, Minneapolis saw yet a new wave of very disturbing protests and clashes with police.

正如您所知，明尼阿波利斯又迎來了一波令人不安的抗議和與警方發生的衝突。

One week ago was the ICE shooting death of Renee Good.

一週前，發生了 ICE 槍擊致死 Renee Good 的事件。

And now the President is threatening to invoke what's called the Insurrection Insurrection Act.

現在總統威脅要引用所謂的「叛亂法案」。

Five years ago, Minneapolis was rocked by violent protests after the police murder of George Floyd.

五年前，明尼阿波利斯在喬治·佛洛伊德遭警方謀殺後，經歷了暴力抗議的動盪。

Andy, is Minneapolis sitting on a powder keg right now?

安迪，明尼阿波利斯現在是不是像個火藥桶？

Absolutely they are, Wolf, and I think you saw that very clearly last night.

絕對是，沃夫，我認為你昨晚已經非常清楚地看到了。

I think the chaos, the escalation in violence, the overly tactical way that law enforcement responded to that assemblage of protesters, they're all very obviously related to the fact that the law enforcement team on the ground having to deal with this situation is not one that is trained for or equipped for or experienced in dealing with large crowd control.

我認為這種混亂、暴力升級，以及執法部門對抗議者集會的過度戰術性回應，都與一個事實明顯相關：地面上的執法團隊沒有接受過處理大規模人群控制的訓練、裝備或經驗。

These are federal agents, they're not police officers.

There's not as many of them as you would need to handle a large crowd.

他們的人數不足以應付大規模人群。

Think about the way that we've seen effective law enforcement responses to large crowds, large protests, whether they be over the George Floyd death or whatever.

想想我們看過執法部門如何有效應對大規模人群、大型抗議，無論是關於喬治·佛洛伊德之死還是其他事件。

You typically see a massive number of police officers in riot gear, not carrying shoulder fired weapons, but

你通常會看到大量的警察穿著防暴裝備，不攜帶肩射武器，而是

rather carrying shields and sometimes batons less than lethal weapons.

攜帶盾牌，有時還會攜帶非致命性武器。

And they basically move together in a very systemic, systematic way to regain territory and disperse the protesters.

他們基本上以一種非常有系統、有組織的方式一起行動，以奪回地盤並驅散抗議者。

Right now you have a much smaller force totally focused on a tactical response.

現在你們有一支規模小得多的部隊，完全專注於戰術性回應。

Half of them are carrying M4s and other very heavy shoulder fired weapons, rifles.

其中一半人攜帶 M4 和其他非常重的肩射武器、步槍。

And last night you saw it just about go off.

而昨晚你們就看到它差點爆炸了。

And now you have the President threatening this morning to invoke what's called the Insurrection Act.

而現在你們看到總統今天早上威脅要引用所謂的「叛亂法案」。

He said, quote, if the corrupt politicians of Minnesota don't obey the law and stop the professional agitators and insurrectionists from attacking the patriots of ICE who are only trying to do their job, I will institute the Insurrection Act.

他說，引述：「如果明尼蘇達州腐敗的政客不遵守法律，阻止專業煽動者和叛亂分子攻擊那些只想做好本職工作的愛國者，我將實施叛亂法案。」

Let's remind everyone of what the Insurrection act is.

讓我們提醒大家一下，什麼是叛亂法案。

It allows the President to deploy the US military domestically and use that force against citizens.

它允許總統在國內部署美國軍隊，並對公民使用武力。

It can only be employed if there is an insurrection or, or interference with state or federal law.

只有在發生叛亂或幹擾州或聯邦法律時才能啟用。

So, Andy, as a former Deputy Director of the FBI and acting Director, do you see any ground to legitimize the use of the Insurrection act here?

所以，安迪，身為前聯邦調查局副局長兼代理局長，你認為有任何理由可以合法化在這裡使用叛亂法案嗎？

I think there's a lot of indicators on the ground that point towards the need for a much better and very different law enforcement response.

我認為現場有很多跡象顯示，我們需要一個更好、非常不同的執法回應。

This is, you know, we have had, unfortunately violent protests in this country for a number of different reasons, different issues over the last couple of years, and

過去幾年，我們國家不幸發生過許多不同原因、不同議題的暴力抗議，

in not one of them has any other president declared to bring in the United States military to take over a city under the Insurrection Act.

但沒有任何一位總統曾宣佈要根據叛亂法案，調動美國軍隊來接管城市。

What you have here is a, you know, the government, unlike the response to George Floyd, this is an issue in which the government could very quickly de escalate the tension and the violence on the ground simply by conducting their business differently.

你看，政府這次的處理方式，跟喬治·佛洛伊德事件時不一樣。這次的事件，政府其實可以透過採取不同的做法，很快地就化解現場的緊張氣氛和暴力。

By pulling back some of these ICE officers, by bringing a less aggressive, tactical approach to this entire issue of finding people who are illegally here in this country.

像是撤回一些ICE官員，採取比較不具侵略性的戰術方法，來處理這些非法居留在此國家的尋人問題。

That's why there's violence and unrest on the street.

這就是為什麼街頭會有暴力和動亂。

Now, I'm not saying that violence by protesters is ever necessary or justifiable under any circumstances.

現在，我不是說抗議者的暴力在任何情況下都是必要或可以被辯解的。

But it is the government that's ratcheting up the tension and the violence here, and

但是是政府在加劇這裡的緊張局勢和暴力，

they could easily turn that off by simply conducting themselves differently.

他們可以很容易地停止這一切，只要他們改變自己的做法。

Just really quickly to follow up, I mean, you had the situation with the shooting overnight, and

快速補充一下，我是說，你看到了連夜的槍擊事件，

DHS says that a Venezuelan national tried to flee and attacked the ICE officer trying to arrest him.

國土安全部說一名委內瑞拉國民試圖逃跑，並攻擊了試圖逮捕他的ICE官員。

I mean, in that situation, do you think a shooting was justified in that case?

我是說，在那種情況下，你認為槍擊是正當的嗎？

He was shot in the leg, that Venezuelan national?

那名委內瑞拉國民被槍擊中腿部了嗎？

Well, it's very hard to say, Pamela, because we know almost nothing about this.

嗯，這很難說，Pamela，因為我們對此幾乎一無所知。

And the reason is that the government's response, their comments in the media following the Renee Goode shooting 1 week ago have proven to us all that we cannot take their statements for granted.

原因在於，政府在一個星期前Renee Goode槍擊事件後，在媒體上的回應和評論，都證明瞭我們不能輕信他們的話。

We cannot accept what the government is telling us whole cloth.

我們不能全盤接受政府告訴我們的一切。

They have no credibility in terms of the way that they are talking about and characterizing the people involved in these events.

他們在談論和描述這些事件中的人物時，毫無可信度。

They absolutely mischaracterize, deliberately mischaracterized Ms. Good and her partner as terrorists.

他們完全錯誤地將 Goode 女士和她的伴侶描繪成恐怖分子。

他們沒有犯下任何恐怖主義行為。

They haven't been alleged to have committed a crime with an indictment or anything like that.

他們沒有被指控犯下任何罪行，也沒有被起訴。

So we know that we can't trust what the government is saying about what's happening on the ground.

所以我們知道，我們不能相信政府說的地面上發生的事情。

So now you think about what happened last night, and we essentially know nothing at this point.

所以現在你想想昨晚發生的事，我們到目前為止幾乎一無所知。

We're waiting to hear from the Minnesota officials to get some more details, because right now we only have the DHS side of things.

我們正在等待明尼蘇達州官員提供更多細節，因為目前我們只有國土安全部的說法。

All right, Andrew McCabe, as usual, thank you very, very much.

好的，Andrew McCabe，一如往常，非常非常感謝你。

Joining me now is Robin Wansley, a Democrat on the Minneapolis City Council.

現在加入我們的是明尼阿波利斯市議員、民主黨籍的 Robin Wansley。

The president has just amped things up, saying he is threatening to use the Insurrection act if things do not calm down there in Minneapolis, in Minnesota what is your response to that?

總統剛剛加劇了事態，他說如果明尼阿波利斯、明尼蘇達那邊的情況沒有平靜下來，他就威脅要動用叛亂法案，你對此有什麼回應？

Yeah, so just first want to offer clarification that I am the city's first black democratic socialist city council member, minority leader.

是的，首先我想澄清一下，我是本市第一位黑人、民主黨籍的社會主義市議員，也是少數族裔領袖。

In terms of Trump threatening to use the Insurrection Act, I don't think any of us on the ground here are surprised.

至於川普威脅要動用叛亂法案，我認為我們在當地的人沒有一個感到驚訝。

Essentially, what Trump has been inching to do since he first deployed ICE agents to Minneapolis about six weeks ago was really to build to this place where he can normalize, using his administrative powers to go to war with with local cities who do not fall in alignment with his administration's political goals, which is to divide people, terrorize people, keep people in poverty, deprive working class people of their basic needs and also their civil liberties.

基本上，自從大約六週前川普首次部署聯邦探員到明尼阿波利斯以來，他一直在逐步推進，目的是建立一個他可以常態化、利用他的行政權力與不符合他政府政治目標的當地城市開戰的局面，這些目標是分化人民、恐嚇人民、讓人民貧困、剝奪工人階級的基本需求和公民自由。

And Minneapolis is a testing ground in which he's trying to normalize, legalize these very terroristic actions that's coming from our own administration here in the US that we often see happen abroad, actions that we wage against communities abroad.

而明尼阿波利斯就是一個試驗場，他試圖在這裡常態化、合法化這些來自我們美國政府的、極具恐嚇性的行動，而這些行動我們經常在國外看到，也就是我們在國外對社區採取的行動。

He's doing that right here in his own homelands, his own country that he took oath to serve and protect.

他正在他自己的祖國、他宣誓要服務和保護的國家裡這麼做。

And it's because of these dynamics that it's even more imperative that elected officials like myself needs to be doing everything we can to get ICE out of Minneapolis, ICE out of Minnesota.

正是因為這些因素，像我這樣的民選官員更需要盡一切努力將聯邦探員趕出明尼阿波利斯、趕出明尼蘇達。