Name: 斯科特-詹寧斯稱《華爾街日報》關於愛潑斯坦生日信的報道是 "啞彈 (Scott Jennings calls WSJ report on Epstein birthday letter a 'dud')
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Not sure I saw quite what this was coming, but first of all, just on the legal front, Ellie, the threat to sue over the existence of this letter, whether he himself wrote it or not, how credible?

我不確定我預見到了什麼，但首先，就法律方面而言，埃莉，威脅要就這封信的存在提起訴訟，不管是不是他本人寫的，可信度有多高？

I mean, he has shown that he is ready, willing, and able to sue media organizations at the drop of a hat.

我的意思是，他已經表明，他已經準備好、願意並能夠一言不合就起訴媒體機構。

If he does sue, it's gonna be really tough because the legal burden here is very high because Donald Trump is, of course, a public figure, so it's harder to win a defamation suit.

如果他真的起訴，那將會非常艱難，因為法律責任非常高，因為唐納德-特朗普當然是公眾人物，所以誹謗訴訟更難勝訴。

First of all, that the Wall Street Journal defamed him, that the statements here are damaging to him.

首先，《華爾街日報》誹謗他，這裡的言論對他不利。

The harder part, though, is going to be to show that they acted with what we call actual malice, meaning that they knew that what they reported was false or that they were reckless as to its falsity.

不過，更難的是要證明他們的行為具有我們所說的實際惡意，即他們知道所報道的內容是虛假的，或者他們對其虛假性不計後果。

Wall Street Journal, I mean, they tend to know what they're doing.

華爾街日報》，我是說，他們往往知道自己在做什麼。

They tend to have their stuff buttoned up, so wouldn't surprise me if he sues and would surprise me if he wins, not knowing the facts, but just knowing how high the legal bar is.

他們傾向於把自己的東西扣好，所以如果他起訴，我不會感到驚訝，如果他贏了，我也會感到驚訝，我不知道事實如何，但我知道法律門檻有多高。

So Trump is saying, I didn't do this, but I think, to me, it's a separate question, Scott, whether this thing exists.

所以特朗普說，這不是我乾的，但我認為，對我來說，斯科特，這件事是否存在是另外一個問題。

And it seems that the journal has evidence that it does, in fact, exist and that it's perhaps among the many, many, many documents that are in the possession of investigators here.

看來該雜誌有證據表明，它確實存在，而且也許就在調查人員掌握的許許多多的文件中。

Yeah, I mean, my reaction to reading this was, so?

是啊，我的意思是，我讀到這個的反應是，所以呢？

I mean, 2003, before anything had happened.

我是說，2003 年，還沒有發生任何事情。

我們知道唐納德-特朗普認識這個人。

We also know he disowned him and kicked him out of his club.

我們還知道，他與他斷絕了關係，並把他趕出了自己的俱樂部。

I was waiting all day long for this rumoring of a bombshell.

我整天都在等待這個爆炸性的傳言。

And look, the president says it's not, I don't know.

聽著，總統說不是，我不知道。

But either way, this gives me like a Kavanaugh yearbook vibes.

但無論如何，這都給我一種卡瓦諾年鑑的感覺。

My impression is Republicans are gonna strongly rally around the president on this thing.

我的印象是，共和黨人會在這件事上強烈地團結在總統周圍。

I mean, he may have been facing some turbulence over the Epstein situation, but this is the sort of stuff that brings people to circle the wagons around him.

我的意思是，在愛潑斯坦的問題上，他可能會面臨一些動盪，但這種事情會讓人們圍著他轉。

Just to be clear, Trump doesn't agree with you because he's clearly very pissed off about this, perhaps very freaked out about it because it's embarrassing.

我只想說清楚，特朗普並不同意你的觀點，因為他顯然對此非常惱火，也許非常害怕，因為這讓他很尷尬。

I think this goes deep into the MAGA psyche and creates a cognitive dissonance.

我認為這深入了 MAGA 的心理，造成了認知上的偏差。

That is why we're seeing them revolt against him in this moment.

這就是為什麼我們看到他們在此時此刻反抗他。

He was supposed to be their guy who would go in there and do what the people would want and fight against the globalists who are pedophiles.

他本該是他們的人，去那裡做人民想要做的事，與戀童癖的全球主義者作鬥爭。

Here's a perfect example of a globalist who is a pedophile.

這裡有一個全球主義者戀童癖的完美例子。

Trump told us, I'm gonna out that guy in his client list.

特朗普告訴我們，我要把他客戶名單裡的那個人揪出來。

Now he gets in, he acts like everybody else who's protecting the globalist pedophiles.

現在他上臺了，就像其他人一樣，保護全球戀童癖。

So how could you continue to think as MAGA, he's gonna protect us when he clearly didn't in this situation?

在這種情況下，他顯然沒有保護我們，你怎麼還能以 MAGA 的身份繼續認為他會保護我們呢？

And Trump has also, I mean, talked about Epstein.

而特朗普也，我是說，談到了愛潑斯坦。

Scott, you're making the point that, oh, they were just friends.

斯科特，你的觀點是，哦，他們只是朋友。

This was before he knew anything about Epstein's, you know, alleged bad acts.

這是在他知道愛潑斯坦的任何事情之前，你知道，所謂的惡劣行徑。

But here's what he said in 2002 in a New York magazine.

但這是他 2002 年在紐約一家雜誌上說的話。

So this would have been a year before this birthday message.

是以，這應該是這條生日資訊的一年前。

他在免提電話裡說，他是個了不起的人。

It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do.

甚至有人說，他和我一樣喜歡美女。

And many of them are on the younger side.

This is all in the public record as well.

One, I think if this was such a big deal and why it wasn't used against him long before when he was running for president, I believe the president on this one.

其一，我認為如果這件事如此重要，為什麼不在他競選總統時早就用來對付他，在這件事上我相信總統。

I think he probably is not a guy that draws pictures.

我想他可能不是一個會畫畫的人。

I know a lot of people that have gotten a lot of notes from him and they've never gotten a picture.

我知道很多人收到過他寄來的很多紙條，但從來沒有收到過照片。

They get a note from him and his signature that takes forever to sign.

他們從他那裡得到了一張字條和他的簽名，但簽名卻花了很長時間。

Like I look at this and I sit there and I'm like, this is it?

就像我看著這個，坐在那裡，我想，這就是它？

Now we're talking about like- We're talking about pictures of women, but we do have- We're talking about pictures here.

我們說的是女人的照片 但我們確實有 我們說的是照片

好吧，我知道，我知道，我知道。

We're talking about the 20, 22 year old stuff.

你現在明白了，事情已經解決了。

而馬格正在向唐納德-特朗普發難。

I'm just saying, Trump says in this statement- It's so rare you got 30 grand for a picture, to my point.

我只是想說，特朗普在這份聲明中說："一張照片能賣 3 萬美元，這太罕見了。

He says, I never wrote a picture in my life.

他說，我這輩子從沒寫過一幅畫。

I don't know if he draws pictures of women, but he has drawn a picture in his life with a Sharpie, which is similar to what we are hearing about this image.

我不知道他是否會畫女人的畫像，但他在生活中曾用銳利筆畫過一幅畫，這與我們聽到的這幅畫像類似。

Look, I think, Abby, here is the bottom line.

聽著，我認為，艾比，底線是這樣的。

Whether or not he drew this picture, whether or not this was actually a letter that he actually wrote or typed out or whatever it was with the weird picture that he drew behind her or didn't draw behind it, the bottom line is that, to me, is somewhat irrelevant.

不管這幅畫是不是他畫的，不管這封信是不是他寫的或打出來的，也不管這封信後面是他畫的還是他沒畫的怪畫，對我來說，這都是無關緊要的。

This is someone who said infamously on camera that came out about two months before the 2016 election, I can grab women by the you know what, and he still won the election.

這個人曾在 2016 年大選前兩個月在鏡頭前臭名昭著地說："我可以抓住女人的你知道嗎？"但他還是贏得了大選。

So I think that kind of persona, perhaps, is baked in.

是以，我認為，這種人格魅力或許已經融入其中。

I think the bigger issue here is that this has caused the MAGA base to kind of lose its mind.

我認為，更大的問題在於，這讓 MAGA 基地失去了理智。

And the question is, is the MAGA base going to come back together or is this a base that is fractured that is significantly fractured?

問題是，MAGA 的基礎會重新凝聚在一起，還是這個基礎已經支離破碎，嚴重分裂？

Because people have been, well, okay, your colleagues, Charlie Kirk, the scroll people you know very well, have been all over the place saying that they're very disappointed in Donald Trump.

因為人們一直在說，好吧，好吧，你的同事，查理-柯克，你非常熟悉的卷軸人，都在說他們對唐納德-特朗普非常失望。

Well, I should say that Charlie Kirk and Laura Loomer tonight have both said to other outlets that they don't necessarily believe that Trump wrote this or what have you.

我想說的是，今晚查理-柯克（Charlie Kirk）和勞拉-盧默（Laura Loomer）都對其他媒體表示，他們並不一定相信這是特朗普寫的。

So they're starting to circle the wagons on this, which is what Scott suggested earlier.

是以，他們開始在這個問題上兜圈子，這也是斯科特之前提出的建議。

The facts of Donald Trump's base are this, and we reported on this this morning here on CNN.

唐納德-特朗普（Donald Trump）的基本盤是這樣的，我們今早在 CNN 上對此進行了報道。

Since the Epstein business started, his job approval among Republicans has gone up.

自愛潑斯坦事件發生以來，他在共和黨人中的支持率有所上升。

I know you're a Democratic strategist, maybe not an expert on the MAGA base.

我知道你是民主黨的戰略家，也許不是 MAGA 基地的專家。

Some of the large voices in his base have been very frustrated.

他的支持者中的一些聲音很大的人感到非常沮喪。

Because while we're all sitting here dealing with this nonsense, out in real America, he's signing legislation on fentanyl.

因為當我們坐在這裡處理這些無稽之談的時候，在真實的美國，他正在簽署關於芬太尼的立法。

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