Name: 伊朗警告美國軍隊，核談判開始時可能會被「打巴掌」！ (Iran warns US military could get ‘slapped’ as nuclear talks start)
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The strongest army in the world may sometimes get slapped so hard that it cannot stand up straight.

世界上最強大的軍隊有時候也會被打得站不起來。

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Iran is going to be closing parts of the Strait of Hormuz today, a vital shipping lane as it conducts naval exercises.

伊朗今天將關閉荷姆茲海峽的部分區域，這是一條重要的航運通道，同時他們也正在進行海軍演習。

And the USS Gerald Ford carrier strike group is making its way to the region to join the growing show of force.

而羅斯福號 (USS Gerald Ford) 航空母艦打擊群正前往該區域，加入日益增長的軍事展示。

Let's bring our begin our COVERAGE Rather with CNN's Fred Flight gun, who joins us live now from Geneva, Switzerland.

讓我們開始今天的報導，首先連線CNN的Fred Flight gun，他現在正在瑞士的日內瓦現場。

So just talking about what Iran's foreign minister said there, that they have agreed just between the US And Iran, guiding principles for talks.

關於伊朗外交部長剛才說的，他們已經在美國和伊朗之間就指導原則達成了一致，為會談做準備。

This, of course, does not mean that a deal is imminent.

A deal is not going to be reached quickly, in his words.

用他的話來說，協議不會很快達成。

But he did describe the talks as much more serious than a previous round and certainly positive.

但他形容這次會談比之前的幾輪更加認真，而且絕對是正面的。

Fred，我們能從中領會到什麼呢？

Well, it certainly seems on two sides are at least going to keep talking still.

嗯，看來雙方至少會繼續對話。

And that is definitely something that's quite important, especially as over the past couple of days we have seen that military buildup in the greater Middle east and of course, those choice words coming from the Iranians and also from US President Donald Trump as far as the possible military confrontation is concerned.

這絕對是件很重要的事情，尤其是在過去幾天，我們看到中東地區的軍事集結，當然還有伊朗和美國總統川普就可能的軍事對峙發表的那些措辭。

So it seems as though, at least for now, diplomacy is still moving forward and is still being given a chance.

所以，至少目前看來，外交途徑仍在推進，並且仍有機會。

One of the interesting things about all this, Zane, is that we have heard, as you mentioned, from Abbas Arakchee, the Iranian foreign minister, saying they are mapping out a path forward to at least try and draft something together.

關於這一切，Zane，有趣的一點是，正如你提到的，我們聽到了伊朗外交部長阿巴斯·阿拉奇的說法，他說他們正在規劃一條前進的道路，至少嘗試共同起草一些東西。

We haven't heard from the US Side yet, and

我們還沒聽到美國方面的消息，

that certainly is no surprise, really, because Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, the two main negotiators for the United States, are already in the building that you see behind me, the Intercontinental Hotel here in Geneva.

而且這確實一點也不令人意外，因為美國的兩位主要談判代表史蒂夫·維特科夫和賈裡德·庫許納已經在你看我身後這棟建築裡了，日內瓦洲際酒店。

And they are at those trilateral talks to try and solve the conflict between Ukraine and Russia.

他們正在參加三方會談，試圖解決烏克蘭和俄羅斯之間的衝突。

So they certainly are taking on the most difficult conflicts in the world.

所以他們確實正在處理世界上最艱難的衝突。

And right now, of course, Iran certainly does seem to be one of the more pressing ones.

而現在，當然，伊朗確實似乎是最緊迫的問題之一。

As all this is going on, the military build up there continues.

在這一切發生的同時，那裡的軍事集結仍在持續。

You also mentioned those military exercises by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps in the Strait of Hormuz.

你也提到了伊斯蘭革命衛隊在荷姆茲海峽進行的軍事演習。

There were also some pretty strong words from Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, directed at the Americans.

伊朗最高領袖阿亞圖拉·阿里·哈梅內伊也對美國人說了一些相當強硬的話。

It seems to them that the US President keeps saying the US army is the strongest army in the world.

在他們看來，美國總統一直說美軍是世界上最強大的軍隊。

The strongest army in the world may sometimes get slapped so hard that it cannot stand up straight they keep saying we've sent an aircraft carrier towards Iran.

世界上最強大的軍隊有時候可能會被狠狠地打一巴掌，以至於站不直，他們一直說我們已經派了一艘航空母艦駛向伊朗。

An aircraft carrier is certainly a dangerous piece of equipment, but

航空母艦當然是危險的裝備，但是

more dangerous than the carrier is the weapon that can send that carrier towards the bottom of the sea.

比航空母艦更危險的是能讓那艘航空母艦沉入海底的武器。

So as you can see there some pretty strong words coming from Iran's supreme leader.

所以，正如你所見，伊朗最高領袖說了一些相當強硬的話。

We have of course heard also US President Donald Trump in the past couple of days threatening military action, but

我們當然也聽到了美國總統唐納·川普這幾天揚言要採取軍事行動，但是

at the same time saying that for the United States States reaching a deal would be preferential.

同時他也說，對美國來說，達成協議會是比較好的選擇。

However, of course, they do say that the terms for that agreement need to be right and that's exactly what the two sides seem to be working on right now.

不過，他們當然也說了，協議的條件必須要對，而這正是雙方目前似乎正在努力的方向。

One thing that we did get, by the way from the Iranian side is they say that their negotiators are actually going back to Tehran tonight.

順帶一提，我們從伊朗方面得到的消息是，他們的談判代表今晚會回到德黑蘭。

There was some speculation as to whether or not the talks might move on until tomorrow.

有些人猜測會談可能會延到明天。

But for now, the Iranians saying they are going to go back to Tehran, report to their superiors and see how they move forward as well.

但目前伊朗方面表示，他們會回到德黑蘭，向他們的上級報告，並看看接下來該怎麼走。

All right, Fred Flatkin, life for us there.

好的，Fred Flatkin，為我們現場報導。

The US President told reporters before the talks began that Iran wants a nuclear deal and that it doesn't want the consequences of not making a deal, obviously implying military action there.

在會談開始前，美國總統告訴記者，伊朗想要達成核協議，而且不想要不達成協議的後果，這顯然暗示了軍事行動。

Our next guest has actually just written about this.

我們下一位來賓其實剛寫了關於這件事的文章。

Barack Ravid is a global affairs correspondent for Axios as well as a CNN political and global affairs analyst.

Barack Ravid 是 Axios 的全球事務記者，同時也是 CNN 的政治與全球事務分析師。

So just in terms of what President Trump said there, that Iran certainly does not want the consequences of not making a deal.

所以關於川普總統說的，伊朗當然不想要不達成協議的後果。

The US Officials also talked about this was in your piece as but they expect Iran to actually come to the negotiating tables with tangible concessions based on what the Iranian foreign minister said, though, that yes, they've agreed on guiding principles, but

美國官員也談到，這部分也有在你的文章裡，他們預期伊朗會帶著實質讓步來到談判桌，不過根據伊朗外交部長的說法，雖然他們同意了指導原則，但

that there's not going to be a deal reached quickly.

There's going to be a lot more work to be done.

Just walk us through what you're hearing from your sources about how much progress was actually made in these rounds of negotiations.

你能不能跟我們說說，你從消息來源那裡聽到了什麼，關於這些輪談判實際取得了多少進展？

So I think we need to be very, very careful in the way that we are reading the Iranian foreign minister statement after the talks.

所以我認為我們在解讀伊朗外交部長在會談後的聲明時，需要非常、非常小心。

As far as I know, I don't think any breakthrough happened in those talks.

據我所知，我不認為那些會談有任何突破。

What I heard from US Officials after the talks was they say that the talks went as expected.

我從美國官員那裡聽到的，在會談結束後，他們說這次會談進行得「如預期般」。

這就是他們的說法，如預期般。

It's not really as positive of a readout as the Iranians gave after the talks.

實際上，這不像伊朗方面在會談後給出的那麼樂觀。

And I think, I'm not sure, I'm not sure that at the moment there's really any agreement between the US And Iran Even when it comes to guiding principles, I think we will have to figure out more.

我認為，我不太確定，我不太確定目前美國和伊朗之間是否真的有任何協議，即使是在指導原則方面，我認為我們還需要進一步瞭解。

at least from everything I hear until now, I don't sense that any breakthrough really has really taken place.

至少從我到目前為止聽到的消息來看，我感覺並沒有真正取得任何突破。

Yeah, I mean, Donald Trump talked about this idea that the Iranians are tough negotiators.

是啊，我的意思是，唐納·川普談到過伊朗人是強硬的談判者這個說法。

I mean, we knew that it wasn't going to be necessarily easy.

我的意思是，我們知道這不一定會是輕鬆的。

雙方之間存在著太多的不信任。

I do want to talk about the Israeli factor in all of this.

我確實想談談以色列在這個問題中的因素。

And Netanyahu, there's several sort of key ambitions in terms of this deal that Netanyahu wants to sort of get across.

在這項協議方面，尼坦雅胡有幾個關鍵的目標想要達成。

This idea that the Iranians simply cannot be trusted even if you make a deal with them, that they're not necessarily going to abide by it.

我的意思是，伊朗人就算簽了協議，他們也不一定會遵守，這點大家心裡都很清楚。

The fact that Netanyahu doesn't want to the deal just to focus on the nuclear ambitions, but

重點是，尼坦雅胡不只想要處理核武計畫，

also its ballistic missile program, also Iran's support for proxy groups in the region as well.

也想處理他們的彈道飛彈計畫，還有伊朗在區域內支持代理人組織的問題。

跟我們聊聊，尼坦雅胡在這次談判的目標，跟川普願意接受的條件，

this something you talked about in your piece, too, how much daylight there is between Netanyahu's goals for these negotiations and what Trump actually is willing to settle for.

這中間的差距到底有多大？這也是你在報導中提到的。

So I don't think there is a lot of daylight, mainly because the Iranians, at least until now, did not put forward any proposal that is compelling enough for Donald Trump to come and say, you know what, I'm going for it.

我認為差距不大，主要是因為到目前為止，伊朗提出的條件都不夠吸引川普，讓他覺得「好，就這樣辦吧」。

And as long as this is the case, then there are not going to be major disagreements between Netanyahu and Trump.

只要情況是這樣，尼坦雅胡和川普之間就不會有太大的分歧。

Even if they disagree on some of the tactics, on whether there should be talks with Iran, there shouldn't be talks with Iran as long as Iran doesn't put something real on the table, which at least until now, I don't have any evidence that the Iranians have put something tangible on the table.

就算他們在策略上有些不同意見，例如伊朗該不該進行會談，但只要伊朗沒有拿出實質的條件，就應該避免會談，而到目前為止，我沒有任何證據顯示伊朗有拿出什麼具體的東西。

As long as that's the case, Donald Trump is not facing any dilemma.

只要情況是這樣，川普就沒有什麼兩難。

And I think we need to look not only at what happened in Geneva or we need to look at what's going on in the region.

我們不只要看日內的會談，也得看看這個區域正在發生什麼事。

Just over the last 24 hours, 50 US fighter jets with their tankers have been moving from the US and from Europe to bases in the Middle East, F35s, F22s, F16s.

過去24小時內，有50架美國戰鬥機和他們的空中加油機，正從美國和歐洲飛往中東的基地，包括F35、F22和F16。

The military build, US military buildup in the region is very significant.

這個區域的軍事集結，美國的軍事部署，是非常顯著的。

And I don't think Donald Trump is moving all those assets to the region just in order to bluff.

而且我認為川普不會只是虛張聲勢，就把這麼多軍事資產調到這個區域。

And if there's not going to be any real tangible concession from the Iranians.

而且如果伊朗方面沒有任何實質的讓步。

All of those assets will be used pretty soon.

所有這些軍事資產很快就會派上用場。

Okay, so you believe that this is not going to end diplomatically, that there will be some kind of military escalation.

好的，所以你認為這不會以外交途徑解決，而是會有某種程度的軍事升級。

So how much time do you think that the Iranians have?

所以你認為伊朗還有多少時間？

First, I don't know if there's going to be a military action or not.

首先，我不知道是否會有軍事行動。

I'm just saying that at the moment, we have no evidence to show that the Iranians have put something tangible on the table.

我只是說，目前為止，我們沒有任何證據顯示伊朗有拿出什麼具體的東西。

I heard it from at least three different US Officials that they expected the Iranians to come to the meeting today with something real.

我從至少三位美國官員那裡聽說，他們原本預期伊朗今天會帶著實質內容來開會。

And at least at the moment, again, the talks ended an hour ago.

而且至少目前來看，會談已經在一個小時前結束了。

I have no evidence that such tangible concession was put on the table by the Iranians.

我沒有證據顯示伊朗有提出任何具體的讓步。

And if that's really the case, then I think the military option is becoming more and more likely.

如果真的是這樣，我認為軍事選項的可能性就越來越高了。

And I don't think we're talking about a long time here.

我認為我們討論的時間不會太長。

I think this is something that could happen pretty soon.

我覺得這件事可能會很快發生。

When Trump makes comments like regime change in Iran may be the best thing that could happen.

當川普發表像是「伊朗政權更迭或許是最好的結果」這樣的評論時。

I mean, a lot of people listening to him say that over here at least would say that that is just sort of psychological, you know, warfare, just sort of really trying to make the Iranians nervous.

我是說，在這裡聽他這麼說的很多人，至少會認為那只是一種心理戰，你知道的，就是試圖讓伊朗人緊張。

But how are those comments being viewed, based on your understanding by the Iranian regime itself?

但根據你的理解，伊朗政權本身是如何看待這些評論的？

So I think there's only one person that matters, and this is Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei.

所以我覺得只有一個人很重要，那就是最高領袖哈米尼。

I think that I'm not sure he is really calculating well enough what Donald Trump might do.

我覺得他不確定他是否真的有足夠的計算，唐納·川普可能會做什麼。

Trump himself talks about the Maduro operation all the time.

川普自己總是談論馬杜羅的行動。

人們有時會認為那是虛張聲勢。

我認為那可能是一個行動計畫。

But I think that if there is going to be some kind of US Military operation, when Trump is talking about both on Maduro and the Maduro comparison and the issue of regime change, what I understand from it is that any US Military operation will aim at taking out the Iranian supreme leader.

但我覺得，如果會有某種美國軍事行動，當川普談論馬杜羅和馬杜羅的比較以及政權更迭的問題時，我從中理解的是，任何美國軍事行動都將以剷除伊朗最高領袖為目標。