Name: 德國總理展開中東之旅 🇩🇪 | DW 新聞 (The German chancellor begins his Middle East trip | DW News)
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We begin in the Middle east where German Chancellor Friedrich Merz will hold talks with regional leaders focused on consolidating the ceasefire in Gaza.

我們先看到中東地區，德國總理 Friedrich Merz 將與區域領袖會談，重點是鞏固加薩的停火。

Merz's first stop is Jordan's capital, Amman, for a meeting with King Abdullah.

Merz 的第一站是約旦首都安曼，與阿卜杜拉國王會面。

He'll then travel on to Israel to meet the Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday.

他週日將前往以色列，與總理班傑明·納坦雅胡會面。

It's Mertz's first trip to both countries as Chancellor, he'll seek to strengthen ties between Germany and Israel which are strained by the war.

這是 Mertz 擔任總理以來首次訪問這兩個國家，他將尋求加強德國與以色列之間因戰爭而緊張的關係。

Joining us now in studio is DW political correspondent Bernd Rigga.

DW 的政治記者 Bernd Rigga 現在 joins us in studio。

Well, the German Chancellor wants some input from the Palestinian side and also stressed that King Abdallah was very helpful in achieving this peace deal or the plan for peace now.

嗯，德國總理希望聽取巴勒斯坦方面的意見，也強調阿卜杜拉國王在達成這項和平協議或目前的和平計畫上非常有幫助。

And that's why Freddie Mears also called the President of the Palestinian Authority, Mahmoud Abbas, before he got on the plane, so that he has something to talk about also with Benjamin Netanyahu when he later travels to Israel.

所以這也是為什麼 Friedrich Merz 在搭飛機前，還特地打電話給巴勒斯坦自治政府主席 Mahmoud Abbas，這樣他之後去以色列時，就能跟 Benjamin Netanyahu 聊聊。

So he also wants to talk about the Palestinian side.

所以他想談談巴勒斯坦方面的事。

He wants that the Palestinian Authority plays a role in Gaza in the future, something that Netanyahu fiercely rejects.

他希望巴勒斯坦自治政府未來能在加薩扮演一個角色，但這點 Netanyahu 則強烈反對。

Now, we know Germany and Israel have this very strong relationship that goes back decades.

現在，我們知道德國和以色列有著數十年來非常穩固的關係。

And usually most German leaders, when they get into office, Israel's very high up their agenda and they visit very early.

通常大多數德國領導人上任後，以色列都會是他們議程上的重點，而且會很早就去訪問。

Well, this is due to the circumstances, I would say.

嗯，我會說這是因為當時的時空背景。

It's not about actually principal concerns in the relationship.

這並不是因為關係上有什麼原則性的顧慮。

When Merz was entering office, the Gaza war was in full swing.

Merz 上任時，加薩戰爭正打得如火如荼。

So they said it's better to wait a little bit.

所以他們就說，先等一下比較好。

But the Foreign Minister Vladivol went there immediately.

但外交部長 Vladivol 馬上就去了。

And also the President of Germany, Frank Walter Steimer, has been in Israel since.

還有德國總統 Frank Walter Steimer，他從那時候就一直在以色列了。

And then over the summer, the relations got a little bit sour because Merz stopped weapons delivery to Israel.

然後到了夏天，因為 Merz 停止了對以色列的武器運送，關係有點變差。

And so now they in Berlin, they said now it's the right time to come.

所以他們在柏林就說，現在是來的最好時機。

So it's a routine visit, actually, but under very extraordinary circumstances.

所以這其實是一次例行訪問，但卻是在非常不尋常的時空背景下。

Give us more on that, that relationship because Batt has also criticized Israel's actions in Gaza.

請再多告訴我們一些關於這段關係的事，因為 Batt 也批評了以色列在加薩的行動。

Because there's still these commitments to deliver, for example, support and weapons to Israel.

因為仍然有這些承諾要履行，例如對以色列提供支援和武器。

Well, the German government stresses that the principal relations have not changed.

嗯，德國政府強調，主要的關係並沒有改變。

Germany stands by the side of Israel, defends the right of Israel, of course, to exist.

德國始終站在以色列這邊，當然也捍衛以色列生存的權利。

But Mer also said the Chancellor also said in August, this does not mean that he cannot criticize certain steps or policies of the government of Benjamin Netanyahu.

但 Mer 也說了，總理在八月時也說過，這不代表他不能批評班傑明·納坦雅胡政府的某些步驟或政策。

He then said he did not understand why Netanyahu was so fierceful or forcefully going against the population in Gaza at the time.

他當時說，他不明白為什麼納坦雅胡當時如此強硬地對待加薩的民眾。

That's why he suspended then parts of the weapon delivery.

這就是為什麼他當時暫停了部分武器的運送。

And he was criticized for that also by Ben Amin Netanyahu.

而班傑明·納坦雅胡也是以批評了他。

And now we will see if the two guys can resolve that tomorrow when they meet.

我們現在就等著看，明天他們見面時，這兩個人能不能解決這個問題。

You mentioned he had the conversation with, or would be having the conversations with the Palestinians calling on Mahmoud Abbas for reform in the Palestinian setup.

你提到他曾與巴勒斯坦人談過，或將與巴勒斯坦人談話，呼籲馬哈茂德·阿巴斯對巴勒斯坦的體制進行改革。

But at the same time, Prime Minister Netanyahu is not keen on the two state, on the two state solution debate.

但同時，總理納坦雅胡對兩國方案的辯論並不熱衷。

Because he's got these two sort of opposing sides.

因為他面臨著這兩股對立的力量。

Yeah, Friedrich Merz is for the two state solution.

沒錯，Friedrich Merz 支持兩國方案。

And he also warns that the Palestinian Authority has a role in all this.

他也警告說，巴勒斯坦自治政府在這一切中扮演著角色。

Germany is also financing the Palestinian Authority to a certain extent.

德國也在一定程度上資助巴勒斯坦自治政府。

And Merz also said before he left that he wants to address the settlers violence in the west bank and also the policies of the Netanyahu government in the West Bank.

而梅爾茨在離開前也說過，他想處理西岸的屯墾區暴力問題，以及納坦雅胡政府在西岸的政策。

所以這可能是一個棘手的問題。

But on the other hand, Germany has no real leverage.

但另一方面，德國並沒有什麼真正的籌碼。

He can talk about it, he can say his interests and his standpoint, but

他可以談論這個，他可以說出他的利益和立場，但是

in the end, the Israelis don't care so much what Germany says because the political impact in the Middle east is relatively restricted.

最終，以色列人並不太在意德國說什麼，因為在中東的政治影響力相對有限。

And just quickly on that note, what about aid?

Can Germany do more for aid to get into Gaza?

德國能為進入加薩的援助做更多嗎？

Well, Germany is also appealing to the government in Israel to open the borders to let more stuff in.

嗯，德國也在呼籲以色列政府開放邊境，讓更多物資進入。

German NGOs are delivering supplies in Gaza as good as they can.

德國的非政府組織正盡其所能地在加薩運送物資。

And Germany is also financing UN agencies that are trying to deliver stuff.

德國也在資助那些試圖運送物資的聯合國機構。

So this is also a point that Mertz will make in his talks with Netanyahu.

所以這也是梅爾茨在與納坦雅胡會談時會提出的重點。

But also here he has no real leverage to do that.

但其實在這裡，他並沒有什麼實質的籌碼能做到這點。

Okay, DW political correspondent Ben Riggart, thank you.

好的，DW 政治記者 Bernd Rigga，謝謝你。

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