Name: 交通部長肖恩-達菲承諾修復被削弱的交通系統 (Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy promises to fix a weakened transportation system)
Uploaded: 2025-06-17T15:36:08.000Z
Duration: 6 min 50 s

Joining us now, the Secretary of Transportation, Sean Duffy.

現在加入我們的是交通部長肖恩-達菲。

Secretary Duffy, thank you so much for joining us.

達菲部長，非常感謝您參加我們的會議。

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I guess the first question I have is what's the fix for Newark Airport in the immediate future?

我想我要問的第一個問題是，紐瓦克機場近期有什麼解決方案？

Obviously, I know you have plans for improving the situation in the longer term, but right now there's a crisis.

顯然，我知道你們有改善長期狀況的計劃，但現在危機四伏。

Immediately, we're in the process of bringing together all the airlines that serve Newark and putting them in a room and having a conversation about how they reduce their capacity in Newark.

目前，我們正在召集所有為紐瓦克提供服務的航空公司，讓他們共聚一堂，討論如何降低紐瓦克的運力。

So if you book a flight, you know it's not going to be delayed or canceled.

是以，如果您預訂了班機，您就知道它不會延誤或取消。

You're actually going to get on that flight and it's going to fly.

你真的會坐上那班飛機，而且會飛起來。

But that's a coordination that we have to have through the FAA with all those airlines.

但這需要我們通過聯邦航空管理局與所有這些航空公司進行協調。

So the Philly TRACON gives a service to Newark.

是以，費城 TRACON 提供前往紐瓦克的服務。

They're the facility that controls that airspace.

We do have some air traffic controllers in training.

我們確實有一些空中交通管制員正在接受培訓。

That'll be helpful with the shortage that we have there.

這將有助於解決我們的短缺問題。

But Jake, this is an infrastructure problem, right?

但傑克，這是基礎設施的問題，對嗎？

And we've known this infrastructure problem has existed for a very long time.

我們知道，基礎設施問題存在已久。

So for Newark specifically, we are going to rebuild the communication system at Newark.

是以，具體到紐瓦克，我們將重建紐瓦克的通信系統。

I thought it was going to be eight months, six months.

希望今年夏天我們能完成這項工作。

I'd rather have them delayed or canceled.

I'd rather have it take six months than two and a half months to build up that communication system because I want people to get from point A to point B safely.

我寧願花六個月的時間，也不願意花兩個半月的時間來建立通信系統，因為我希望人們能夠安全地從 A 點到達 B 點。

And again, if they have to wait for a flight, I'll prefer that than something else going wrong with their flight.

再說一次，如果他們不得不等待班機，我寧願這樣，也不願他們的班機出現其他問題。

Yeah, look, I'm not saying that what's going on right now is a problem created in the last 106 days.

是的，聽著，我不是說現在發生的事情是過去106天裡產生的問題。

Obviously this goes back beyond the Biden administration, beyond the first Trump administration, literally decades.

顯然，這可以追溯到拜登政府之後，也可以追溯到特朗普首屆政府之後，簡直就是幾十年前的事了。

Pete Muntean, our aviation expert here, says that Newark is a microcosm of the problems all over the entire American travel system, air traffic control system.

我們的航空專家皮特-蒙坦（Pete Muntean）說，紐瓦克是整個美國旅行系統、空中交通管制系統問題的一個縮影。

So beyond the short-term fix, getting all the airlines in a room and trying to divert flights to other airports, beyond this problem-solving that you want to do in the next few months, what is the larger term goal in terms of making sure that Newark isn't just the tip of the iceberg?

是以，除了短期解決方案，讓所有航空公司共處一室，並嘗試將班機分流到其他機場，除了您希望在未來幾個月內解決的問題之外，確保紐瓦克機場不只是冰山一角的更長遠目標是什麼？

So again, because we have such old infrastructure, it's 25 to 50 years old, depending on what you're talking about.

同樣，由於我們的基礎設施非常陳舊，已經有 25 到 50 年的歷史，這取決於你說的是什麼。

That's why you can't let it get to this point, right?

這就是為什麼你不能讓事情發展到這一步，對嗎？

Where you see issues like Newark, could that happen somewhere else?

你在哪裡看到紐瓦克這樣的問題，其他地方會發生嗎？

And so what we have to do is we're rolling a plan out on Thursday.

是以，我們要做的就是在週四推出一項計劃。

We're gonna need a lot of money from Congress to do this.

我們需要國會提供大量資金來完成這項工作。

It's not gonna take 10 years like Pete suggested.

這不會像皮特建議的那樣需要 10 年時間。

It's gonna take three to four years to get this build-out done.

這需要三到四年的時間才能完成建設。

You can't snap your fingers and lay fiber or bring in new radios or new radar.

你不能動動手指就鋪設光纖或引進新的無線電或新的雷達。

And we're gonna put the time and the money in, and you're gonna start to see results sooner than three or four years as this build-out happens.

我們會投入時間和資金，隨著建設的進行，你們會很快看到成果，而不是三四年。

We're also dealing with air traffic controllers.

我們還要與空中交通管制員打交道。

We have a 3,000 controller shortage right now in America, and it's been like that for almost a decade.

美國現在缺少 3000 名控制人員，這種情況已經持續了近十年。

We've expanded the capacity for our main academy, which is in Oklahoma City, to get more controllers into the academy and get the best qualified controllers into the academy because we have a 35% washout rate.

我們已經擴大了位於俄克拉荷馬市的主要學院的容量，讓更多的管制員進入學院，並讓最合格的管制員進入學院，因為我們有 35% 的淘汰率。

If we can get down to 25%, we get more young people through and trained up and certified and in towers.

如果我們能將這一比例降至 25%，我們就能讓更多的年輕人通過培訓，獲得證書，走上工作崗位。

Also, controllers, after 25 years of service, they can retire, Jake.

此外，管制員在服務滿 25 年後就可以退休，傑克。

And so we wanna say, listen, if you're an experienced controller and you're willing to stay on after that date of retirement, let's pay them.

是以，我們想說，聽著，如果你是一名經驗豐富的控制員，並且願意在退休日期後繼續留任，我們就給他們發工資。

We're gonna give them 20% bonuses upfront per year that they stay on and help us with the airspace.

如果他們繼續留在這裡，幫助我們管理空域，我們每年會給他們20%的預付獎金。

And those two things together, I can't do it tomorrow, I can't do it in a month, but over the course of the next year and two years, you're gonna see the pressure come off the controllers because we're focusing on the experienced end and the trained up end and resolve this problem.

這兩件事加在一起，我不可能明天就做到，也不可能一個月就做到，但在接下來的一年或兩年時間裡，你會看到控制人員的壓力會減小，因為我們正專注於經驗豐富的一端和訓練有素的一端，並解決這個問題。

But all this together, it's gonna take, it takes a long time.

但所有這些加在一起，需要很長時間。

And that's why I wish the last administration would have seen it.

是以，我希望上屆政府能看到這一點。

There were GAO reports that said, hey, the infrastructure is failing and no one did anything with it, Jake.

美國政府問責局的報告稱，基礎設施正在崩潰，但沒人對此採取任何措施，傑克。

They spent $1.2 trillion on infrastructure.

他們在基礎設施上花費了 1.2 萬億美元。

What has gone to the greatest infrastructure in this country, which is air traffic control?

這個國家最重要的基礎設施--空中交通管制--去哪兒了？

And so I'm frustrated by that, as you can tell, but we can't look back.

是以，我對此感到很沮喪，你也看得出來，但我們不能回頭看。

We have to look forward and go, how are we gonna fix it?

我們必須向前看，我們該如何解決這個問題？

民主黨人和共和黨人都同意這一點。

我們都在飛，我們的家人也在飛。

So the Senate Democratic leader, Chuck Schumer, talked about this situation in Newark today on the Senate floor.

參議院民主黨領袖查克-舒默（Chuck Schumer）今天在參議院發言時談到了紐瓦克的這種情況。

The public deserves answers to some very important questions.

公眾應該得到一些非常重要問題的答案。

Why has the staffing shortages at Newark and other critical airports been allowed to continue?

為什麼允許紐瓦克和其他重要機場繼續出現人員短缺？

What role has doge cuts played in aggravating the chaos?

削減開支在加劇混亂中扮演了什麼角色？

What is the plan to fill the vacancies of critical leadership at the FAA?

有什麼計劃來填補 FAA 重要領導層的空缺？

So leader Schumer called for the inspector general at the FAA to conduct an investigation into the Newark issues.

是以，舒默上司要求聯邦航空局的監察長對紐瓦克的問題進行調查。

And this comes as we're learning that the FAA halted the work of an outside panel of experts that were scrutinizing its management of air traffic control operations.

在此之前，我們得知美國聯邦航空局（FAA）停止了一個外部專家小組的工作，該專家小組正在對其空中交通管制運行管理進行審查。

I just gave you a lot to respond to there.

But let's start with the pausing of that oversight board.

但我們還是從暫停監督委員會的工作開始吧。

So I'm not aware of the pausing of the oversight board.

是以，我不知道監督委員會暫停工作一事。

Again, we've been bringing on and hiring more air traffic controllers, bringing more air traffic controllers into the school.

同樣，我們一直在引進和聘用更多的空中交通管制員，讓更多的空中交通管制員進入學校。

Doge has had no role in cutting our critical safety mission at DOT.

Doge 沒有參與削減我們在交通部的關鍵安全任務。

We've expanded that, whether they're pipeline inspectors or rail inspectors, airline inspectors, or actually air traffic controllers.

我們已經擴大了這一範圍，無論是管道檢查員、鐵路檢查員、航空檢查員，還是實際上的空中交通管制員。

But what Chuck Schumer's talking about is doge, which again, has no play.

但查克-舒默所說的是 "鴿子"，同樣沒有任何作用。

But if you want CIG to come in and look at what happened in the Philly Tracon when it moved from New York, they moved it last summer under Pete Buttigieg from New York to Philly.

但如果你想讓 CIG 參與進來，看看費城 Tracon 從紐約搬到費城時發生了什麼，去年夏天，在皮特-巴蒂吉格的上司下，他們把 Tracon 從紐約搬到了費城。

And when they do that investigation, they'll find that Chuck Schumer was actually part of the problem where they were testing up new equipment to deploy in Philly and because he kept playing political games, that equipment wasn't tested.

當他們進行調查時，他們會發現查克-舒默實際上是問題的一部分，他們正在測試新設備以部署在費城，因為他一直在玩政治遊戲，所以設備沒有進行測試。

He'll also find that before they moved the Tracon to Philly from New York for Newark, that they actually should have built out the infrastructure around Philly.

他還會發現，在他們把 Tracon 從紐約搬到費城的紐瓦克之前，他們其實應該先把費城周圍的基礎設施建好。

So they don't have to pull that information out of Newark.

是以，他們不必從紐瓦克調出這些資訊。

They didn't do those things correctly and part of the problem was Chuck Schumer.

他們沒有正確地做這些事情，而問題的一部分在於查克-舒默。

So I look forward to the IG investigation about what the real problems were that we're experiencing right now, how it goes back to the games that Chuck Schumer was playing as he was a lead senator from New York.

是以，我期待著調查組的調查，看看我們現在遇到的真正問題是什麼，如何追溯到查克-舒默作為紐約州首席參議員時所玩弄的遊戲。