Name: 英國和歐洲油價飆漲！卡達、伊朗能源設施遭攻擊後，油價暴漲！ (Gas prices in UK and Europe soar after strikes on energy facilities in Qatar and Iran | BBC News)
Uploaded: 2026-03-19T16:38:33.000Z
Duration: 10 min 39 s

The price of gas in Europe is more than double the level seen before the conflict began.

歐洲的汽油價格已經比衝突開始前翻了一倍多。

Well, let's now cross live and talk about this country's response to the war.

好的，我們現在來現場連線，談談國家對這場戰爭的回應。

Let's talk to Jose Manuel Alvarez Bueno, the foreign minister of Spain.

我們來連線西班牙的外交部長 Jose Manuel Alvarez Bueno。

Thank you so much for joining us on the program, Minister.

非常感謝您參與本節目，部長。

And can I ask you first of all for your reaction to the escalation that we've seen overnight, both with that Israeli attack on the pass oil field, but

首先，我想請問您對我們隔夜看到的局勢升級有什麼反應，包括以色列對帕斯油田的攻擊，

also the retaliation and the subsequent rises in those energy prices.

以及隨後的報復和能源價格的隨後上漲。

We condemn, of course, all those attacks both from Israel and from Iran to those energy facilities.

我們當然譴責來自以色列和伊朗對這些能源設施的所有攻擊。

They are incredibly dangerous, both for human life, for the environment.

這對人類生命和環境來說都極其危險。

And we have seen already the tremendous impact on the prices of energy.

我們已經看到了對能源價格的巨大影響。

This is damaging the well being of our cities.

And this is a war on which Europe was neither consulting nor informed.

而且這是一場歐洲既沒有諮詢也沒有被告知的戰爭。

But we are seeing that we are being hit by the consequences.

但我們看到我們正受到後果的影響。

And therefore, as Spain did since the very first day of this unilateral action, we call for de escalation, we call for diplomacy and we call for going back to the negotiating table.

是以，正如西班牙從這項單方面行動的第一天起就做的那樣，我們呼籲降級，我們呼籲外交，我們呼籲回到談判桌。

Let's talk a little bit about the fact that you just said that Europe was hasn't been involved in this war, hasn't known about how it started.

我們來談談你剛才說歐洲沒有參與這場戰爭，不知道它是怎麼開始的。

But are you surprised that President Trump has said on Truth Social that he knew nothing about the Israeli strike on those oil fields, given that the Israelis and the Americans have gone into this war together.

但你對川普總統在 Truth Social 上說他對以色列攻擊那些油田毫不知情感到驚訝嗎？畢竟以色列和美國是聯手發動這場戰爭的。

I understand that they have different objectives right now in the war, Israel and the United States.

我明白他們現在在戰爭中有不同的目標，以色列和美國。

But what secret important is that those that initiated this war realizes that it's out of control, that we don't see very clear how long this can take.

但重要的是，發動這場戰爭的人要意識到它已經失控了，我們看不清楚這場戰爭還會持續多久。

What are the objectives of this war and it's putting in danger the lives of millions of people that it has destabilized completely the Middle East.

這場戰爭的目標是什麼？它危及數百萬人的生命，並完全破壞了中東的穩定。

We see places like Lebanon, 1 million displacement people.

我們看到像黎巴嫩這樣的地方，有百萬人流離失所。

It's a real shame for humanity and that the impact for the well being of everyone on earth is being put in danger, certainly for the well being of hispaniols and European citizens.

對全人類來說，這真是太可惜了，而且這對地球上每個人的福祉都造成了危險，當然也包括西班牙和歐洲公民的福祉。

And therefore there is no military solution for the current situation.

是以，目前的局勢沒有軍事解決方案。

De escalation once again, going back to the negotiating table.

Security never comes only through military force.

安全絕非僅靠軍事力量就能達成。

There's a hot war happening in Europe right now in Ukraine.

歐洲現在正在發生一場熱戰，就在烏克蘭。

President Trump is clearly angry with Europe for not helping along the Strait of Hormuz.

川普總統顯然對歐洲沒有在荷姆茲海峽提供幫助感到憤怒。

How do you keep a president on side insofar as the war in Ukraine is concerned, if you don't help him in the Middle east when he needs it.

如果在中東需要幫助時不伸出援手，要如何讓總統在烏克蘭戰爭這件事上保持一致？

We were together since the very beginning with the United States in front of the Russian aggression.

從一開始，我們就和美國一起面對俄羅斯的侵略。

And the Russian invasion in Ukraine and European Union is burying right now most of the cost, both financially and in delivering weapons to help the democracy and the freedom of Ukraine.

俄羅斯入侵烏克蘭，歐盟現在正承擔大部分的成本，無論是財政上還是提供武器以支持烏克蘭的民主和自由。

So it was a common decision, a common decision by Europe and the United States to support freedom, democracy, international law, reject words of aggression and the reward of the aggression.

所以這是歐洲和美國共同的決定，共同支持自由、民主、國際法，拒絕侵略言論和侵略的獎勵。

In the case of Ukraine, when it comes to Iran and the Middle east, we didn't know anything about it.

在烏克蘭的情況下，談到伊朗和中東，我們對此一無所知。

Everyone in Europe, all the governments in Europe, we started to know about this war when we woke up.

歐洲的每個人，歐洲的所有政府，我們都是在醒來時才知道這場戰爭。

And we start to see the images in our screens of tv.

然後我們開始在電視螢幕上看到畫面。

What does that tell you about your relationship with the US that you didn't know anything?

這對你和美國的關係說明瞭什麼，你竟然一無所知？

Well, the American administration is being very clear about the transatlantic relation and is telling us that we have to take more burden sharing of our own security.

嗯，美國政府對跨大西洋關係非常明確，並告訴我們必須承擔更多自身安全的負擔。

And I think it's the time for Europe to make a leap forward on its sovereignty, its economic and trade sovereignty, but

我認為現在是歐洲在主權、經濟和貿易主權上向前邁進的時候，但

That's why Spain is calling for better integrate the industries of defence of Europe and to create a European army, not to replace the national armies, but

這就是為什麼西班牙呼籲更好地整合歐洲的國防產業，並建立一支歐洲軍隊，不是要取代各國軍隊，而是

to create that rapid response force to guarantee our own deterrence.

建立一支快速反應部隊，以確保我們自身的嚇阻能力。

Europe must not be a power to sit at the table of the powerful countries, to be a new aggressive power, but

歐洲不能只是個坐在強權國家餐桌邊的國家，不能成為一個新的侵略性強權，而是

to balance, to be a voice of reason, a voice that defends international law, negotiation, diplomacy, but

要能平衡、要能成為理性的聲音，一個捍衛國際法、談判、外交的聲音，但

also to tell those that think that war is another way of carrying out its objective in foreign policy, that we have our own deterrence to guarantee that Europe remains a land of peace.

也要告訴那些認為戰爭是實現其外交政策目標的另一種方式的人，我們有自己的嚇阻力量，以確保歐洲仍然是一片和平的土地。

you've said in the past that those strikes on Iran violate international law.

您過去曾說過，那些對伊朗的攻擊違反了國際法。

Are you accusing of the US of acting illegally?

And if so, what does that mean for international law?

如果是的話，這對國際法意味著什麼？

What does international law mean anymore?

I think everyone in the world agrees that the unilateral action taken on Iran was a breach of international law.

我認為全世界的人都同意，對伊朗採取的單方面行動違反了國際法。

It doesn't fall into the United Nations Charter principle, but

這不屬於《聯合國憲章》的原則，但

we are still a very vast majority of countries and people around the world that believe in international law, that believes in the principles of the United Nations Charter.

我們仍然是世界上絕大多數國家和人民，相信國際法，相信《聯合國憲章》的原則。

Because the option to the law, to international law is the pure use of force.

因為除了法律、國際法之外的選擇，就是純粹使用武力。

The option to world order based on predictable rules is the law of the jungle, the strength, only the use of force.

取代基於可預測規則的世界秩序的選擇，就是叢林法則，強者，只有武力。

And therefore the option to the world order is the world disorder.

是以，取代世界秩序的選擇就是世界大亂。

And if we start to put disorder everywhere at the end we will get to chaos.

如果我們開始到處製造混亂，最後就會陷入一片混亂。

We are seeing that already today in the Middle east being destabilized in the human catastrophe that we are seeing everywhere.

我們今天在中東已經看到了，中東正在動盪不安，我們到處都看到了人道災難。

In Lebanon, we are seeing it with the soaring prices in energy.

在黎巴嫩，我們看到了能源價格飆升。

That's why international law remains the best way to have virtuous relations with all the countries in the planet.

是以，國際法仍然是與地球上所有國家建立良好關係的最佳途徑。

EU leaders are meeting to discuss the conflict today in Brussels.

歐盟領袖今天在布魯塞爾開會討論這場衝突。

I think everyone in Europe is clear and very concerned with this war that is not a European war and with the soaring prices of energy.

我認為歐洲的每個人都清楚且非常關心這場不是歐洲的戰爭，以及飆升的能源價格。

On Monday we had a foreign affairs council and it was very clear that we were calling for de escalation, that Europe doesn't want to get involved in this war, that we know very little, we don't know the objectives.

週一我們召開了外交事務委員會，當時非常清楚我們呼籲降級，歐洲不想捲入這場戰爭，我們所知甚少，也不知道目標是什麼。

我們也看不到治療的截止日期。

And we really, we really want negotiations and de escalations to be leading the path in the Middle East.

我們真的、真的希望中東能以談判和降級為首要。

Spain has been one of the countries to speak out the most strongly against what the US and Israel are doing in Iran.

西班牙一直是公開強烈譴責美國和以色列在伊朗所為的國家之一。

Do you sometimes wish that other countries like the UK came out also as strongly as you have?

你是否曾希望英國等其他國家也能像你們一樣強烈發聲？

我們是第一個，我們非常清楚。

We have a coherent foreign policy that says the same thing for the same objectives and for the same principles in Ukraine or in the Middle east or in Greenland.

我們有一套連貫的外交政策，在烏克蘭、中東或格陵蘭，都秉持相同的目標和原則。

It's to back international law is to back diplomacy, negotiation, United Nations Charter.

那就是支持國際法，支持外交、談判和《聯合國憲章》。

And I see that more and more countries start to get into Spain's position.

我看到越來越多國家開始採取西班牙的立場。

And we are very clear on the respect of international law and also very clear in how the consequences of this war will have an impact in the well being of all our citizens in Europe.

我們非常清楚要尊重國際法，也清楚這場戰爭的後果將如何影響我們在歐洲所有公民的福祉。

Do you feel that other countries are scared of President Trump, are scared of the repercussions?

你是否覺得其他國家害怕川普總統，害怕其後果？

We are a great partner of the United States.

We think that the United States is the historical natural ally of Europe.

我們認為美國是歐洲歷史上天然的盟友。

Spain and the United States have a very strong trade relationship with that very big surplus for the United States.

西班牙和美國有非常強勁的貿易關係，美國享有很大的順差。

We are one of the big buyers of gas, LNG gas to the United States.

我們是美國液化天然氣（LNG）的幾個主要買家之一。

United States uses two military bases of Spanish sovereignty and we have a historical deployment in the eastern flank of Europe.

美國使用西班牙主權的兩個軍事基地，而且我們在歐洲東翼有歷史性的部署。

And we were in the in the NATO mission in Iraq providing security to the Euro Atlantic security.

我們參與了北約在伊拉克的任務，為歐洲大西洋的安全提供保障。

We work for that relationship to continue being as strong as it has always been and mutually beneficial for both Spain, Europe and also the United States.

我們努力讓這種關係一如既往地強勁，並對西班牙、歐洲和美國都有益處。

But we have also a coherent foreign policy that sticks to principles, not just for the sake of the principles, not because they are beautiful ideas.

但我們也有一個連貫的外交政策，堅持原則，不僅僅是為了原則本身，也不是因為它們是美好的想法。

Because they have provided decades of prosperity, peace and stability for Europe.

因為它們為歐洲帶來了數十年的繁榮、和平與穩定。

And we want the world to continue being like that.

我們希望世界能繼續保持這樣。

Jose Manuel Alvarez Bueno, the Spanish minister for Foreign Affairs.

西班牙外交部長 Jose Manuel Alvarez Bueno。

It's been really interesting to talk to you, so thank you once again for taking the time to speak to us on BBC News.

很高興能與您對話，再次感謝您撥冗接受 BBC News 的訪問。