Name: 獨家：伊朗外長接受CNN專訪，暢談與美國談判！緊張情勢持續升溫 🔥 (Exclusive: Iran's foreign minister speaks to CNN about negotiations with US amid ongoing tensions)
Uploaded: 2026-02-02T17:03:44.000Z
Duration: 17 min 16 s

Doctor Archie, thank you very much for the opportunity for this interview.

Archie 醫師，非常感謝您接受這次的訪問。

程度副詞

We're obviously in very delicate times right now between the United States and Iran as we sit here.

我們現在處於美伊之間非常敏感的時刻。

How big is the threat of a war between the two countries?

I think war is not inevitable and it can be avoided.

我認為戰爭並非不可避免，是可以避免的。

因為我們已經做好了萬全的準備。

We are prepared even more than before the 12 Day War.

我們準備得比12天戰爭之前還要充分。

And I believe that the best way to prevent a war is to be prepared for that.

我相信，預防戰爭最好的方法就是做好準備。

So when I say that we are prepared for the war, it doesn't mean that we want war, but

所以當我說我們已經準備好應對戰爭，這並不代表我們想要戰爭，而是

What I'm concerned of is miscalculations and military operation based on misinformation and disinformation campaigns.

我擔心的是誤判，以及基於misinformation和disinformation的軍事行動。

It is obvious to us that there are certain elements, certain parties who want to drag President Trump into this war for their own benefits.

我們很清楚，有些份子、有些黨派為了自己的利益，想把川普總統拖下水。

And I think President Trump is wise enough to make a correct decision.

我認為川普總統夠聰明，能夠做出正確的決定。

One of the ways to prevent miscalculations is for direct talks.

預防誤判的方法之一就是直接對談。

The United States has said that it wants direct talks with Iran.

美國已經說過，我們想要和伊朗直接對談。

How can a meaningful negotiations process be jump started right now?

現在要如何啟動一個有意義的談判過程呢？

A meaningful negotiation should be based on trust.

有意義的談判應該建立在信任的基礎上。

And unfortunately, we have lost our trust to the United States as a negotiating partner.

而且很可惜，我們對美國失去了身為談判夥伴的信任。

Everybody celebrated that when we concluded the deal, JCPOA and the US withdrew with no justification.

大家還記得，當我們達成協議 JCPOA 時，大家都非常高興，結果美國卻毫無理由地退出了。

Let's talk about last year, only 10 months ago when in June we decided to negotiate with the United States.

我們來談談去年，也就是十個月前，我們在六月決定要和美國談判。

And we were negotiating when they decided to attack us.

就在我們談判的時候，他們決定攻擊我們。

先是以色列，然後美國也加入。

So we don't have any good experience, any positive experience of talking with Americans.

所以我們跟美國談判並沒有什麼好的經驗，任何正面的經驗都沒有。

And in order to have a meaningful negotiation, we need to overcome this mistrust.

而為了要有意義的談判，我們需要克服這種不信任。

There are now some intermediators, some friendly countries in the region who are trying to build this confidence.

現在有一些中間人，一些該區域友善的國家，他們正試圖建立這種信任。

So I see the possibility of another talk if the US Negotiation team follows what President Trump said to come to a fair and equitable deal to ensure that there is no nuclear weapons.

所以，如果美國談判團隊能遵循川普總統的說法，達成公平合理的協議，確保沒有核武，我認為有機會再次進行談判。

This is what he said in one of his latest posts.

這是他最近發布的其中一則貼文說的。

So if that is the case, I'm confident that we can achieve a deal.

所以，如果情況是這樣，我相信我們可以達成協議。

So if this conference built, if you get to that stage, you are ready and willing to sit down directly with the American side, with someone like Witkoff, and

所以，如果這次會議促成了，如果你們能走到那一步，準備好並願意直接與美方，與像 Witkoff 這樣的人坐下來，

The question of directly and indirectly is something else that is the form of negotiation.

直接或間接的問題是談判的另一種形式。

But we have to take care of the substance of negotiation and that is more important.

但我們必須處理好談判的實質內容，這點更重要。

And I don't think we can come to a point that the full confidence is restored, but

我認為我們無法完全恢復信心，但

And we are now working with our friends in the region to find a method that can bring about this, some extent of confidence so we can restart negotiations.

我們現在正和區域內的盟友一起努力，尋找一個方法來達成這個目標，建立一定程度的信心，這樣我們才能重新開始談判。

Yeah, and President Trump says that negotiations are already going on.

是的，川普總統說談判已經在進行了。

He has said overnight that there is negotiations taking place.

他昨天晚上說，談判正在進行中。

How does that work right now with this confidence building with, with countries in the region also?

這和目前與區域國家建立信心的方式是如何運作的呢？

As I said, there are some countries who convey messages and who are trying to build confidence and to, to prepare the ground for a meaningful negotiation.

如我所說，有些國家會傳達訊息，並試圖建立信心，為有意義的談判做好準備。

And we are working with them and we are exchanging message.

而且我們正和他們合作，也在交換訊息。

Would you say that these talks that are going on right now are fruitful and can lead to a de escalation of the situation to a point where real talks can take place?

你認為目前正在進行的這些談判是有成效的，並且能導向情勢降溫，進而展開實質談判嗎？

我認為到目前為止，是的，是有成效的。

President Trump says he is looking to not use the military force that is currently stationed around Iran, not just on aircraft carriers but elsewhere if there can be an acceptable deal.

川普總統說，如果能達成可接受的協議，他希望能避免使用目前部署在伊朗周邊的軍事力量，不只是航空母艦，還有其他地方。

What would be an acceptable deal for Iran as far as nuclear is concerned?

就核武方面，對伊朗來說，什麼樣的協議才算是可接受的？

As far as, as I said, the same deal that he mentioned, a fair and equitable deal to ensure no nuclear weapons that is achievable.

就像我說的，就是他提到的那個協議，一個公平且合理的協議，確保不會有核武，這是可以實現的。

Things like enrichment, things like ballistic missiles, things like proxy forces in the region.

像是濃縮鈾、彈道飛彈，以及區域內的代理部隊。

I know that the United States has talked about wanting to negotiate about that as well.

我知道美國也曾表示希望就此進行談判。

Is that completely out of the question for you or is that something you could at least talk about?

這對你們來說是完全不可能的嗎？還是至少可以談談看？

And we can negotiate on our nuclear program to ensure that there is no nuclear weapons, to ensure that it is peaceful and would remain peaceful forever.

我們可以就我們的核計畫進行談判，確保沒有核武，確保它是和平的，並且永遠保持和平。

Of course, in return, we expect sanction lifting so that deal is possible.

當然，相對地，我們希望解除制裁，這樣協議才有可能。

Let's do not talk about impossible things.

Let's focus on something which is possible and do not lose the opportunity to achieve a fair and equitable deal to ensure no nuclear weapons.

我們專注於可行的事情，不要錯失達成公平合理協議的機會，以確保沒有核武。

That, as I said, and I repeat, that is achievable even in short period of time.

正如我所說，我再重複一次，這在短時間內是可以實現的。

So you think there could be a, in a short period of time, negotiations could start, a venue could be designated.

所以你認為，在短時間內，談判可以開始，可以指定一個地點。

You could sit down directly or indirectly with them and come to an agreement fairly quickly that would give you, presumably you would want sanctions relief in return for all of this.

你可以直接或間接地與他們坐下來，並相當快地達成協議，前提是你希望以此換取制裁的解除。

What's Iran looking to get out of it otherwise?

That is the purpose of negotiation for us.

First, of course, we want our rights to be, you know, respected.

首先，當然，我們希望我們的權利，你知道，受到尊重。

Sanctions are imposed because there are concerns that our program may go for, for weapons.

實施制裁是因為有人擔心我們的計畫可能朝向武器發展。

As far as we are concerned, this is not the case.

But we are ready to build confidence on our nuclear program and of course, in return we expect sanction lifting.

但我們準備好建立對我們核計畫的信心，當然，作為回報，我們期望解除制裁。

And as I said, if enrichment, our right for enrichment is respected and recognized and we can continue our enrichment for peaceful purposes, then every details of that is negotiable and we can sit together in any form and come to a conclusion.

如我所說，如果濃縮鈾的權利受到尊重和承認，而且我們可以繼續為和平目的進行濃縮鈾，那麼所有細節都可以談判，我們可以任何形式坐下來達成結論。

Iran is obviously a very powerful country, country in this region and also all the way into Europe and other places.

伊朗顯然是這個區域，甚至遠至歐洲和其他地方，一個非常強大的國家。

The United States obviously has a lot of power here as well.

美國顯然在這裡也擁有很大的權力。

Wouldn't it be important for these two powerful players in the region to speak about regional issues?

這兩個區域強權就區域議題進行對話，難道不是很重要嗎？

To speak about regional military issues as well?

嗯，作為一種普遍的降溫，或許吧。

Well, to be honest with you, we believe that the source of all these conflicts, tensions, everything in our region is foreign forces who have entered into this region.

說實話，我們認為我們區域裡所有這些衝突、緊張局勢、一切的根源，是進入這個區域的外來勢力。

We respect our neighbors and we are, we have always been ready to engage with our neighbors in the region and talk about the security, the peace and stability and everything regarding the region.

我們尊重我們的鄰國，我們一直準備好與區域內的鄰國接觸，討論安全、和平與穩定以及所有與區域相關的事務。

But with the countries of the region, this is our business.

但對於區域內的國家來說，這是我們自己的事。

This is the business of the region and we have to deal with that together with our regional players.

這是區域內的事情，我們必須與區域內的參與者一起處理。

So this is our position and we have already been in touch with our neighbors and other players, major players in particular, and

所以這就是我們的立場，我們已經和我們的鄰國以及其他主要參與者接觸過了，

we have good discussion and we are ready to even form some sort of a structure to talk with each other about the peace and stability.

我們進行了很好的討論，而且我們也準備好建立某種機制，以便大家能一起談論和平與穩定。

Look, peace and stability in this region is as important and vital for us as it is important for others.

你看，這個區域的和平與穩定對我們來說，跟對其他人一樣重要、一樣關鍵。

We are a country next to the Persian Gulf and that body of water is important for us to export our oil.

我們是波斯灣旁的國家，那片水域對我們出口石油很重要。

Straightforward is very, very important also for us and for the whole world.

坦誠相見也非常、非常重要，對我們和全世界都是如此。

And we have always kept it safe and have guaranteed safe passage thanks to the IRGC who is protecting the safe passage and the freedom of navigation in the Persian Gulf and Sea of Oman and the state of Hormuz.

而且我們一直以來都確保了它的安全，並保證了航行自由，這都要歸功於伊斯蘭革命衛隊，他們保護了波斯灣、阿曼灣和荷姆茲海峽的航行自由。

And I hope that nothing would happen which interrupt that.

我希望不會發生任何事情來打斷這一切。

What do you think the consequences would be if there was a full on military confrontation between Iran and the United States?

你認為如果伊朗和美國之間發生全面軍事對抗，後果會是什麼？

Because I know your military has changed its doctrine that if there is a major attack, it would be considered existential for the Islamic Republic.

因為我知道你們的軍隊已經改變了其戰略，如果發生重大攻擊，將被視為對伊斯蘭共和國的生存威脅。