Name: 國際援助機構如何在以色列嚴格限制下，維持在加薩的運作？ (How can int'l aid agencies maintain their operations in Gaza despite Israel's hefty restrictions?)
Uploaded: 2025-12-31T17:07:28.000Z
Duration: 8 min 52 s

Israel says it will bar aid organizations from working in Gaza and the occupied west bank in less than 24 hours.

以色列表示，不到 24 小時內將禁止援助組織在加薩和被佔領的約旦河西岸工作。

The permission for 37 groups to operate is being suspended in the new year for failing to comply with new registration rules.

37 個組織在新的一年裡，因未能遵守新的註冊規則，其營運許可證將被暫停。

Well known NGOs including Doctors Without Borders are among the groups whose licenses will be suspended starting on Thursday.

包括無國界醫生在內的知名非政府組織，都在許可證將於週四開始暫停的組織之列。

They're warning that the decision will harm Gaza's civilian population.

他們警告，這項決定將損害加薩的平民人口。

But Israel insists the rules are needed to prevent Hamas and other militant groups from infiltrating the organizations.

但以色列堅持，這些規則是為了防止哈瑪斯和其他武裝團體滲透這些組織。

At the same time, foreign ministers from 10 countries including the UK, France and Canada have published a statement on the humanitarian situation in Gaza which they say remains catastrophic.

同時，包括英國、法國和加拿大在內的 10 個國家外交部長，就加薩的人道主義局勢發表聲明，稱其局勢依然災難性。

Well, we can speak about this now with Jolene Veldwick.

好的，我們現在可以和 Jolene Veldwick 來談談這件事。

She's country director of CARE Palestine who and she joins us from Amman.

她是 CARE Palestine 的國家主任，從安曼連線加入我們。

Yoline, tell us more about this vetting process that Israel says NGOs like yours have failed to comply with.

Jolene，請告訴我們更多關於以色列所說的，像你們這樣的非政府組織未能遵守的審查程序。

Issue is, is that there's one requirement to the registration and that is the submitting of the Palestinian staff list for Gaza and the west bank as part of the registration requirements.

問題在於，註冊有一項要求，那就是提交加薩和約旦河西岸的巴勒斯坦工作人員名單，作為註冊要求的一部分。

They have not identified or you know, why this is necessary other than saying it is for vetting.

他們沒有說明，或者說，除了說這是為了審查之外，沒有解釋為什麼這是必要的。

But it is unclear how they will apply sort of the association and what risk this would bring to our staff.

但他們要如何實施這種關聯性，以及這會給我們的員工帶來什麼風險，這點還不清楚。

Additionally, for many of us we operate under data protection laws, especially in the countries of domicile where we are registered.

此外，對我們許多人來說，我們是在數據保護法的規範下運作，尤其是在我們註冊的國家。

So we cannot hand over or share any of our Palestinian staff lists or in their personal information with Israel as the occupying power for both Gaza and the West Bank.

所以我們不能將我們巴勒斯坦工作人員的名單或他們的個人資訊，交給或分享給以色列，因為以色列是以佔領國的身分佔領加薩和約旦河西岸。

And I think also it's good to note that this.

而且我認為也值得一提的是，這一點。

Sorry, I just wanted to ask you about the motivation for this behind this.

抱歉，我只是想問一下，這背後的動機是什麼。

Israel says that the new rules will prevent militants from infiltrating a organizations.

以色列表示，新規定將阻止武裝團體滲透援助組織。

I'm just wondering how else that concern can be addressed about infiltration other than through a vetting process.

我只是想知道，除了審查程序之外，還有什麼其他方法可以解決滲透的疑慮。

We already operate under extensive donor mandated compliance frameworks.

我們已經在廣泛的捐助者授權的合規框架下運作了。

You know, we do audits, we have counter terror financing controls, we have due diligence requirements that meet or even exceed international standards.

你知道，我們有審計，我們有反恐融資控制，我們有符合甚至超越國際標準的盡職調查要求。

We don't work in Gaza alone, especially as care.

我們不是單獨在加薩工作，尤其是在照護方面。

We work in 45 other contexts, you know, where there are also terrorism concerns and we are able to meet the requirements and also, you know, do our due diligence before we add any staff to our, to our team.

我們在其他 45 個地區都有工作，你知道，那裡也有恐怖主義的疑慮，我們能夠滿足這些要求，並且，你知道，在我們團隊加入任何新成員之前，都會進行盡職調查。

And I think it's important to note also that the allegations of diversion or staff links to armed groups, they have been made without case specific evidence, due process or even remediation pathways.

而且我認為也很重要的一點是，關於挪用或工作人員與武裝團體有關的指控，是在沒有具體案例證據、正當程序，甚至沒有補救途徑的情況下提出的。

Now Gaza still has massive Humanitarian needs, as you know all too well.

現在加薩仍然有巨大的、你非常清楚的人道主義需求。

Explain to us how these rules for NGO could impact provision of essential aid and what that means for the people living in Gaza.

請向我們解釋，這些非政府組織的規定將如何影響基本援助的提供，以及這對加薩人民意味著什麼。

Re registering INGOs would result in the collapse of hospital services, malnutrition treatment, winterization efforts, protection activities.

重新註冊國際非政府組織將導致醫院服務、營養不良治療、冬季援助措施、保護活動的崩潰。

And this will pose, of course, serious risk to civilian life and also regional stability.

這當然會對平民生命和區域穩定構成嚴重風險。

Critical sectors including health care, shelter, food assistance, nutrition, mine action and trauma care.

包括醫療保健、住所、糧食援助、營養、地雷行動和創傷照護在內的關鍵領域。

They are overwhelmingly dependent on INGO capacity as care.

他們在很大程度上依賴國際非政府組織的能力，就像照護一樣。

We run our own health center, we run many malnutrition treatment points.

我們經營自己的健康中心，也經營許多營養不良治療點。

And if this were to be unable to continue, I mean, this would be devastating for the people of Gaza.

如果這無法繼續下去，我的意思是，這對加薩人民來說將是災難性的。

As INGOs, we are the operational backbone of the humanitarian response.

作為國際非政府組織，我們是人道救援行動的骨幹。

We do the last mile delivery for all of the UN funded activities as well.

我們也為所有聯合國資助的活動執行最後一哩路的運送。

The UN relies heavily on INGOs for implementation.

聯合國在執行上非常依賴國際非政府組織。

Yolin, thank you very much for talking with us today.

Yolin，非常感謝您今天接受我們的訪問。

That was Yolin Veldwyk, CAIRS Palestinian Territories Director, speaking to us from Oman.

這是在安曼，CAIRS 巴勒斯坦領土主任 Yolin Veldwyk 正在和我們談話。

She is a communication adviser for the Norwegian Refugee Council.

她是挪威難民理事會的溝通顧問。

NRC is among those humanitarian organizations that Israel is barring from the Gaza Strip.

挪威難民理事會是其中一個被以色列禁止進入加薩走廊的人道援助組織。

And I asked her to describe her agency's work in Gaza and how important it is for Palestinians there.

我請她描述她們在加薩的工作，以及對當地巴勒斯坦人來說有多重要。

NRC is supporting hundreds of thousands of people across Gaza, including providing clean drinking water for over 100,000 people daily.

挪威難民理事會每天都在加薩支持數十萬人，包括為超過十萬人提供乾淨的飲用水。

We provide shelter materials, we coordinate the shelter response as part of the UN system.

我們提供庇護所材料，並作為聯合國系統的一部分協調庇護所的應對措施。

We are providing temporary learning spaces for children who've been deprived of education for the last two years.

我們為過去兩年失去受教權的孩子們提供臨時學習空間。

We provide legal aid and counseling for people who have lost their documentation or facing housing, land and property issues.

我們為遺失文件或面臨住房、土地和財產問題的人們提供法律援助和諮詢。

We are providing livelihood support, including supporting bakeries to help subsidize the cost of bread so that people can afford it and feed their families.

我們提供生計支持，包括支持麵包坊以補貼麵包價格，讓大家能負擔並餵養家人。

This is a place where tens of thousands of people, hundreds of thousands of people, are in need of shelter assistance.

這裡有數萬人、數十萬人急需庇護所援助。

One quarter of families report still only surviving on one meal per day.

四分之一的家庭表示仍只靠一餐過活。

And our teams are on the ground and will continue to be on the ground supporting their communities however we can.

我們的團隊就在當地，並將持續在當地盡我們所能地支持他們的社群。

Right, So, I mean, you're painting a pretty bleak picture there for the people in Gaza, which we've seen in the images and the reports that have come from there.

對，所以，你的意思是，你為加薩人民描繪了一幅相當黯淡的景象，我們從那裡傳來的畫面和報導中都看到了。

Now, Israel says the new rules will prevent the infiltration of militants into aid organizations.

現在，以色列表示新規定將阻止武裝團體滲透援助組織。

What have you understood from the rules and how can the NRC fulfill Israel's requirements then?

你對這些規定有什麼瞭解？NRC 又該如何滿足以色列的要求呢？

Well, we've tried to engage in good faith with the Israeli authorities on this requirement for the new registration rules that insist that we deliver Palestinian staff lists, we've offered third party vetting, we've offered alternatives, and

嗯，我們一直試圖善意地與以色列當局就這項新註冊規則的要求進行溝通，該規則堅持要求我們提交巴勒斯坦工作人員名單，我們已經提出了第三方審查，也提出了替代方案，

We've also seen some organizations that have been re registered without submitting staff lists.

我們也看到一些組織在未提交工作人員名單的情況下就重新註冊了。

And so we know that this rule is being selectively applied.

所以我們知道這項規定是被選擇性地執行的。

We know that this is really an effort to dismantle principled humanitarian operations in Gaza and the rest of the occupied Palestinian territory.

我們知道這實際上是為了瓦解加薩及被佔領巴勒斯坦領土其他地區的原則性人道主義行動。

We know what happens when unprincipled actors take up the space that should be filled by seasoned, experienced humanitarian organizations.

我們知道當沒有原則的行為者佔據了應由經驗豐富的人道主義組織填補的空間時，會發生什麼事。

And that's what happened with the ghf, where hundreds of people were shot, injured and killed seeking food for several months because aid operations were obstructed and restricted from operating.

而這就是 ghf 的情況，數百人在過去幾個月裡因為援助行動受阻和限制而尋找食物時遭到槍擊、受傷和死亡。

It's part of a pattern that, that we've seen for more than two years where Israeli authorities have consistently tried to obstruct our work, preventing aid from entering.

這是兩年多來我們一直看到的模式的一部分，以色列當局一直試圖阻礙我們的工作，阻止援助進入。

For more than nine months, nearly 10 months, NGOs like NRC have been unable to bring in aid directly into Gaza, despite it sitting mere miles away in trucks or in warehouses in Egypt and Jordan.

九個多月，將近十個月，像 NRC 這樣的非政府組織一直無法將援助直接運入加薩，儘管援助就在幾英里外的埃及和約旦的卡車或倉庫裡。

Explain to us what some of the safeguards NRC and other NGOs have to ensure that there are no links with the militant groups.

請向我們解釋一下 NRC 和其他非政府組織有哪些保障措施，以確保沒有與武裝團體有任何聯繫。

Well, we conduct background checks on our own staff, make sure that and follow reporting requirements as required by our donors and internally to ensure that there isn't aid diversion, to ensure that we aren't influenced by external authorities.

嗯，我們會對自己的員工進行背景調查，確保並遵守捐助者和內部要求的報告規定，以確保沒有援助被挪用，確保我們不受外部當局的影響。

For our staff, this is a context where we've seen hundreds of aid workers be killed by Israel over the course of two years.

對我們的員工來說，這是一個我們看到數百名援助工作者在兩年內被以色列殺害的環境。

There are also data protection laws that prevent us from sharing these staff lists.

還有數據保護法，禁止我們分享這些工作人員名單。

Us, we have internal mechanisms and we conduct regular audits and our donors conduct regular audits to make sure that there is nothing unusual going on with our distribution of aid and that no diversion is taking place.

我們有內部機制，定期進行審計，我們的捐助者也會定期進行審計，以確保我們的援助分配沒有任何異常情況發生，也沒有發生挪用行為。

And so these allegations by Israel are unfounded and are really a fig leaf to cover up the attempts to destroy and dismantle principled humanitarian operations in the occupied Palestinian territory.

所以以色列的這些指控是毫無根據的，實際上是個遮羞布，用來掩蓋他們試圖摧毀和瓦解被佔領的巴勒斯坦領土上那些有原則的人道主義行動。

Okay, we're going to have to leave it there.

好的，我們今天就先聊到這裡。

Shayna，很高興聽到你的最新消息。

Shana Lowe, Communication Advisor for the Norwegian Refugee Council.

挪威難民理事會傳播顧問 Shana Lowe。