Name: 葉爾馬克辭職將如何影響和平談判？ | DW 新聞 (How will Yermak's resignation impact peace talks? | DW News)
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We start in Ukraine where President Volodymyr Zelensky's Chief of Staff has stepped down.

我們從烏克蘭開始，烏克蘭總統澤倫斯基的幕僚長已經請辭。

Andrew Yermak's resignation followed raids on his home and office by anti corruption authorities.

葉爾馬克是在反貪腐當局突襲他的住家和辦公室後辭職的。

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Though he's not officially a suspect in any investigation for now.

雖然他目前並未正式成為任何調查的嫌疑人。

As well as being Ukraine's lead negotiator in talks with the United States, Yermak was seen as President Zelensky's key political ally.

葉爾馬克不僅是烏克蘭與美國談判的主要談判代表，也被視為澤倫斯基總統的關鍵政治盟友。

His departure is seen as another blow for the Ukrainian leader and may disrupt the current peace talk negotiations.

他的離職被視為對烏克蘭領導人又一次打擊，可能會擾亂目前的和平談判。

Following that high level resignation, President Zelensky announced a wider reshuffle of his government.

在這次高層辭職後，澤倫斯基總統宣佈將對政府進行更廣泛的改組。

First, the office of the President of Ukraine will be reorganized.

首先，烏克蘭總統辦公室將進行重組。

The head of the office, Andriy Yermak, has submitted his resignation.

該辦公室主任安德里·葉爾馬克已提交辭呈。

I am grateful to Andrii for always representing Ukraine's position in the negotiations exactly as it should be.

我很感謝安德里總是能準確地代表烏克蘭的立場進行談判。

It's always been a patriotic position, but I want there to be no rumours or speculation.

這一直是個愛國的立場，但我希望不要有任何謠言或猜測。

As for the new head of the office, I will hold consultations with those who could lead this institution.

至於新任辦公室主任，我會和可能領導這個機構的人進行諮詢。

For more on this, I am joined by DW analyst Konstantin Eggert.

關於這點，DW 分析師康斯坦丁·艾格特將與我一同探討。

Volodymyr Zelenskyy's most important confidant is now gone, along with the fact that the President has reshuffled those other senior leadership positions.

澤倫斯基總統最重要的心腹已經離開，總統也改組了其他高層領導職位。

Is this a Kyiv in turmoil and is this a win for Russia?

這是個動盪的基輔嗎？這對俄羅斯來說是場勝利嗎？

I don't think it's a win for Russia, although we've seen President Putin's avatar, his press secretary Peskov, saying that this proves that Ukrainian system is shaking.

我不認為這是俄羅斯的勝利，儘管我們看到普丁總統的化身，他的祕書長佩斯科夫說，這證明瞭烏克蘭體系正在動搖。

But you would expect him to say that in such circumstances.

但在這種情況下，你預期他會這麼說。

But I think a lot Alice will defend depend on how quickly will Zelensky appoint figures to his administration.

但我認為很多事情，愛麗絲，將取決於澤倫斯基總統多快任命新內閣人選。

Also he's talking about reshuffling them, reorganizing the administration.

That means that it will be much more than just replacing Andriy Yermak.

這意味著，這將遠遠不只取代葉爾馬克一人。

Speed here is of essence and I think that's my personal view.

速度至關重要，我認為這是我的個人看法。

Of course, recognizable figures that will be able to interact with the outside world will continue, could continue.

當然，能夠與外界互動的知名人士會繼續，可以繼續。

Negotiations will be very, very important to see in this administration.

在這個內閣裡，談判將會非常、非常重要。

But so far, I mean, these things are just starting probably as we speak.

但到目前為止，我的意思是，這些事情很可能就在我們說話的同時開始了。

I want to talk a little bit about the fact that Yermak was the negotiator in peace negotiations.

我想稍微談談葉爾馬克是和平談判的談判代表這件事。

How will this resignation impact peace talks?

這次辭職對和平談判有何影響？

You've talked about the need for speed, but tell us a little bit more.

你提到了速度的重要性，但請多告訴我們一些。

Well, I do think that the important element here is Zelensky's total trust in Yermak.

嗯，我確實認為這裡重要的元素是澤倫斯基對葉爾馬克的完全信任。

A lot of people were saying that people that dealt with the Ukrainian administration were saying that it's like an avatar of Zelensky.

很多人說，與烏克蘭內閣打交道的人說，這就像是澤倫斯基的化身。

I mean, so to find someone who is essentially speaking for Zelensky, who knows what he wants in negotiations, to be flexible also, this person has to be flexible and to be able to take decisions on the spot, sometimes very quickly, that is a tall order to feel.

我的意思是，所以要找到一個基本上能代表澤倫斯基說話，知道他在談判中想要什麼，同時也要有彈性，這個人必須有彈性，並且能夠當機立斷，有時非常迅速地做出決定，這是一個艱鉅的任務。

And I think everything here boils down to one word, trust.

我認為這一切都歸結為一個詞：信任。

And that will be a big challenge for Volodymyr Zelensky.

這對澤倫斯基來說將是一大挑戰。

It's not for nothing that some people compared Yermak, who is now gone as head of Zelenskyy's office, to the late US President Dick Cheney, who was an extremely powerful, the most powerful vice president in American history.

有人將現任澤倫斯基辦公室主任葉爾馬克比作已故美國總統迪克·錢尼，後者是美國歷史上權力最大的副總統，這並非沒有道理。

So I think there is something to this comparison that to me strikes the correct chord.

所以我認為這個比較有道理，對我來說，它觸動了正確的弦。

Can you talk a little bit more about what might this mean for Zelenskyy's future?

你能多談談這對澤倫斯基的未來可能意味著什麼嗎？

There is a lot of pressure on the president, and

there, from what I understand, a lot of unhappiness from Ukrainian citizens about the president and how he has handled everything up to this point.

據我瞭解，烏克蘭公民對總統以及他迄今為止的處理方式感到非常不滿。

Well, I do not think it will impact Zelenskyy's future immediately.

嗯，我不認為這會立即影響到澤倫斯基的未來。

He'll continue to be leading these negotiations with the US And Russia.

他會繼續領導與美國和俄羅斯的談判。

Whatever will come out of them, That's a different question.

這些談判結果如何，那是另一回事。

But I think that, again, a lot will depend on whether there will be an ability to renew the administration.

但我認為，正如你剛才所說，這很大程度上取決於內閣是否有能力進行改組。

But evidently, as you rightly said, there are complaints about corruption.

但顯然，正如你所說，確實有關於貪腐的抱怨。

There are complaints about not people being at the top for too long, for too many, let's say, informal connections.

也有抱怨說，有些人待在位子上太久了，有太多，可以說是非正式的關係。

That is something that you find all the time, let's say, on Ukrainian media.

這是在烏克蘭媒體上經常看到的情況。

And this is something that I think in such circumstances, it's fairly understandable.

而且我認為，在這種情況下，這是相當可以理解的。

But I do think that the future of Zelenskyy, his powers will not be changed by this.

但我認為，澤倫斯基的未來，他的權力不會是以改變。

Of course, it depends again, how this will be presented to the public, whether the public will believe that there was a renewal.

當然，這又取決於如何向民眾呈現，民眾是否會相信有進行改組。

In this particular circumstances, it's very difficult, but it's not impossible.

在這種特殊情況下，這非常困難，但並非不可能。

DW analyst Konstantin Eggert, thank you so much.

DW 分析師康斯坦丁·艾格特，非常感謝您。