Name: 以色列抗議者要求結束加沙戰爭 | BBC News (Protesters in Israel demand end to war in Gaza | BBC News)
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In Tel Aviv, tens of thousands of Israeli protesters gathered on Thursday night, demanding an end to the war in Gaza and the return of hostages held by Hamas.

星期四晚上，數萬名以色列抗議者聚集在特拉維夫，要求結束加沙戰爭，歸還被哈馬斯扣押的人質。

Amongst the crowd were more than 300 Israeli soldiers who signed a letter demanding a ceasefire deal.

人群中有 300 多名以色列阿兵哥，他們在一封要求達成停火協議的信上籤了名。

Many protesters were also calling for the resignation of the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

許多抗議者還呼籲以色列總理本雅明-內塔尼亞胡辭職。

下面有請尼姆羅德-戈林博士發言。

He's the president and founder of the Mitvim Institute, an Israeli policy think tank.

他是以色列政策智囊團米特維姆研究所的主席和創始人。

He was at the protest in Tel Aviv yesterday.

他昨天參加了在特拉維夫舉行的抗議活動。

What's your sense of what impact, yes, another protest, yes, a large one, a significant one, the fact that there are Israeli soldiers there, what's your sense of what difference this could make?

是的，又一次抗議活動，是的，一次大規模的抗議活動，一次重要的抗議活動，那裡有以色列阿兵哥，你覺得這會產生什麼影響？

It was indeed one of the largest protests that we had in the last period of time.

這確實是我們在過去一段時間裡遇到的最大規模的抗議活動之一。

Israel is regularly going to the streets to voice the opposition to where things are going in our society.

以色列人經常走上街頭，對我們社會的現狀表示反對。

But the protest also reflects a majority within the Israeli public, a very solid majority, that wants to see the war end for the sake of hostage return.

但抗議活動也反映出以色列公眾中的大多數--一個非常穩固的大多數--希望看到戰爭為了人質的歸還而結束。

There is more and more acknowledgement of the internal societal price that Israel is paying for the continuation of the war, and it was reflected in yesterday's speakers at the protest.

越來越多的人認識到以色列為持續戰爭所付出的內部社會代價，這一點在昨天抗議活動的發言者身上得到了體現。

It was a lot about the hostages, but not only.

這與人質有很大關係，但不僅僅是人質。

We had people, parents of soldiers who were injured, mothers of soldiers who were fighting, families of soldiers who had died.

我們有受傷阿兵哥的父母、參戰阿兵哥的母親、犧牲阿兵哥的家屬。

So, the intensity of the damage that different parts of the Israeli society are suffering from the war are leading to frustration, to a hope that this deal, this ceasefire deal, this end of war should already happen.

是以，以色列社會各階層因戰爭而遭受的嚴重破壞導致了挫敗感，導致了人們希望這一協議、這一停火協議、這一結束戰爭的協議應該已經實現。

But the lack of trust in the capacity of willingness of the current Israeli leadership to actually go there, and a disappointment, perhaps, from the U.S. president that he's not putting all his pressure to end the war now, as he did in ending the war with Iran just a couple of weeks ago.

但是，我們對以色列現任領導層的能力和意願缺乏信任，也許美國總統對他沒有像幾周前結束與伊朗的戰爭那樣，現在就施加壓力結束戰爭感到失望。

And is there sense that, any sense, that the prime minister and those in his coalition are listening, are willing to shift their position and bring this conflict to an end?

是否有任何跡象表明，首相及其聯盟成員正在傾聽，願意轉變立場，結束這場衝突？

A public protest on its own will not change the ideological position of this coalition.

公眾抗議本身不會改變這個聯盟的意識形態立場。

The coalition is the most far-right one that is in the head.

I think Netanyahu indicated that he is open to all kind of temporary ceasefire deals, like the one we had in January until March of this year, but he's opposing the end of the war, and I think this has not changed.

我認為內塔尼亞胡表示，他對各種臨時停火協議持開放態度，比如今年 1 月到 3 月的停火協議，但他反對結束戰爭，我認為這一點沒有改變。

Perhaps the only time in which something could change, because of, again, political consideration, not security one, would be when the Israeli elections are coming near, and then electoral consideration of the prime minister perhaps wanting to be wrapping up the hostage issue by eventually signing a deal.

也許只有在以色列大選臨近時，出於政治考慮（而非安全考慮），再加上總理可能希望通過最終簽署協議來結束人質問題的選舉考慮，情況才會有所改變。

Currently, I don't see willingness by the current coalition to truly end the war in  Gaza.

目前，我看不出目前的聯盟有真正結束加沙戰爭的意願。

It doesn't mean that some sort of a deal that's currently on the table cannot still be achieved.

這並不意味著目前擺在桌面上的某種協議仍然無法達成。

We've heard over the past week with this coalition of nations from around the world condemning Israel and its actions in Gaza, this idea that the actions of Israel are causing significant reputational damage for the country.

在過去的一週裡，我們聽到來自世界各地的國家聯盟譴責以色列及其在加沙的行動，認為以色列的行動對該國的聲譽造成了重大損害。

And again, do you think that that cuts through in any way with Benjamin Netanyahu?

再說一遍，你認為這對本雅明-內塔尼亞胡有什麼影響嗎？

We definitely feel that as average Israelis, in our personal experiences, especially those who are interacting with the international community, who are engaging with partners from other countries.

我們作為普通的以色列人，尤其是那些與國際社會互動、與其他國家的合作伙伴接觸的人，在我們的親身經歷中肯定會感受到這一點。

But on the state level, we must say that the key strategic relations that Israel has in the Middle East, in Europe, and especially in the U.S., are continuous, and the key interests are still at play.

但在國家層面，我們必須說，以色列在中東、歐洲，尤其是美國的關鍵戰略關係是持續的，關鍵利益仍在發揮作用。

And for most Israelis, the country that is important is the U.S.

對大多數以色列人來說，美國才是最重要的國家。

And with Trump in office, the mainstream Israeli will feel that Israel is safeguarded from that, and that other countries will eventually, beyond all kind of symbolic acts, prioritize their interest in their specific bilateral cooperation with Israel over their morality and values.

而隨著特朗普的上臺，以色列的主流民眾會覺得以色列在這方面得到了保障，其他國家最終會在各種象徵性行為之外，將其與以色列的具體雙邊合作利益置於其道德和價值觀之上。

So I think that's here to stay to a certain extent.

是以，我認為這在一定程度上會繼續存在。

But the gap between how countries and governments treat Israel and how publics in their societies are treating Israelis, I think that's changing, and that will probably increase, and will cast more dice against on average people, like the war often does.

但是，國家和政府對待以色列的方式與社會公眾對待以色列人的方式之間的差距，我認為正在發生變化，而且這種差距可能會越來越大，對普通人的影響也會越來越大，就像戰爭經常做的那樣。

It's not about the leaders who are paying the price, it's the people on the ground on both sides, the Palestinians, the Israelis, and that increases by the day.

付出代價的不是領導人，而是雙方當地的人民，巴勒斯坦人和以色列人，而且這種情況與日俱增。

Dr. Nimrod-Gorin, very interesting to get your thoughts.

尼姆羅德-戈林博士，您的想法非常有意思。

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