Name: 美國為何對加沙饑荒保持沉默？CNN 新聞之夜小組辯論 (Why is the US silent about the starvation in Gaza? CNN NewsNight panel debates)
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Duration: 8 min 6 s

I wonder if you feel like this moment, these images that are coming out about the humanitarian situation is in fact an inflection point.

我想知道，你是否覺得此時此刻，這些關於人道主義狀況的圖片實際上是一個拐點。

I mean, in November of last year, the International Criminal Court issued a warrant for the arrest of Benjamin Netanyahu for the war crime of starvation.

我的意思是，去年 11 月，國際刑事法院以戰爭罪逮捕了本雅明-內塔尼亞胡。

Eight months ago, before Israel cut off all food, all water, all electricity into the Gaza Strip for three months.

八個月前，在以色列切斷進入加沙地帶的所有食物、水和電力長達三個月之前。

And to say the United States is silent, it's much, much worse than that.

如果說美國保持沉默，情況比這更糟。

We are profoundly complicit and deeply responsible.

我們是嚴重的同謀，也要負重大責任。

It is our weapons that enforce this starvation.

正是我們的武器造成了這種飢餓。

It is our diplomatic efforts that prevent international justice from being done.

正是我們的外交努力阻礙了國際正義的伸張。

The blood is on our hands as Americans because it is our weapons that is responsible for those children starving to death.

作為美國人，我們的雙手沾滿了鮮血，因為正是我們的武器導致了這些兒童的餓死。

Hamas has lots of- Is there no blood on their hands?

哈馬斯有很多--他們的手上沒有血嗎？

不，不，為什麼不讓我說完呢？

You blame Israel and you blame the US, but we have Hamas here.

你們指責以色列，指責美國，但我們這裡有哈馬斯。

I actually have, one of my closest friends in college was blown up by Hamas.

事實上，我有一個大學裡最要好的朋友被哈馬斯炸死了。

I have probably a lot more experience with suffering from Hamas with all due respect than you do.

恕我直言，我可能比你更瞭解哈馬斯的痛苦。

If we want to see who is more to blame for the starvation of children in Gaza, Hamas or Israel, let CNN in.

如果我們想知道誰更應該為加沙兒童的飢餓負責，是哈馬斯還是以色列，請讓 CNN 參與進來。

Israel has not allowed internet Western journalists in since October 7th.

自 10 月 7 日以來，以色列一直不允許西方互聯網記者進入。

Let them go in, let CNN go in, and decide for themselves.

讓他們進去，讓 CNN 進去，自己做決定。

How about Hamas releases the hostages and you proceed?

哈馬斯釋放人質，你們再繼續怎麼樣？

What do you think would happen if Hamas releases the hostages?

如果哈馬斯釋放人質，您認為會發生什麼？

Scott, let me ask you a question because Hamas is responsible for October 7th.

斯科特，讓我問你一個問題，因為哈馬斯要對 10 月 7 日事件負責。

Hamas is responsible for a lot of terrible things, but the question is, who can alleviate the starvation at this moment in Gaza?

哈馬斯要對許多可怕的事情負責，但問題是，誰能緩解加沙目前的飢餓狀況？

And does Israel have a responsibility to do much more than it is doing right now?

以色列是否有責任比現在做得更多呢？

我的觀點是哈馬斯挑起了戰爭。

The suffering of the people in Gaza is their direct responsibility of what Hamas has done.

加沙人民遭受的苦難是他們對哈馬斯所作所為的直接責任。

And instead of doing anything for the people of Gaza, built tunnels for this siege.

他們非但沒有為加沙人民做任何事情，反而為這次圍困修建了隧道。

But what about Israel's role in controlling the flow?

但以色列在控制流量方面的作用又如何呢？

You can ask me a question, I'll want to answer it.

你可以問我一個問題，我想回答。

But what about Israel's role in controlling the flow of food?

但以色列在控制糧食流通方面的作用又如何呢？

I just want us to set the table here because I understand that there's a lot of political talking points around this, but this is a conversation about human beings and about the things that they need in order to survive, which is food and water.

我只是想讓我們在這裡擺好桌子，因為我知道圍繞這個問題有很多政治話題，但這是一場關於人類和人類生存所需的東西的對話，也就是食物和水。

And the question I have for you is, is there a moment for you where you sit here and you think, yeah, maybe more can be done?

我想問的問題是，你坐在這裡時，是否會想，也許還可以做得更多？

And at what point should the United States government say that?

美國政府應該在什麼時候這樣說呢？

They've stolen it from the United Nations to resell it to finance their war.

他們從聯合國偷來這些錢，轉手賣掉，為他們的戰爭提供資金。

Some people think they've made a billion dollars stealing and weaponizing this aid.

有些人認為，他們已經賺了十億美元，竊取了這些援助並將其武器化。

That's not the United States doing, that's Hamas doing.

這不是美國乾的，是哈馬斯干的。

Number two, they've made unreasonable demands in these hostage negotiations.

第二，他們在人質談判中提出了不合理的要求。

We're on the brink of a hostage deal and a ceasefire.

我們即將達成人質協議和停火協議。

They've blown that up today with Israel and now the United States having to walk away from an unreasonable situation.

今天，以色列和美國都不得不放棄這種不合理的局面。

It is blatantly obvious that Israel and the United States wants the hostages home, they want a ceasefire, and they want to feed the people in Gaza.

顯而易見，以色列和美國希望人質回家，希望停火，希望為加沙人民提供食物。

The Israeli government's stated position, stated position is to support the Trump plan for the full expulsion of all Palestinians from Gaza.

以色列政府表明的立場是支持特朗普計劃，將所有巴勒斯坦人全部驅逐出加沙。

And I would remind you, there is no Hamas leadership in the West Bank.

我要提醒你們，西岸沒有哈馬斯領導人。

How are Palestinians being treated in the West Bank where Hamas is not in control, where there are no Hamas fighters?

在沒有哈馬斯控制、沒有哈馬斯戰士的西岸，巴勒斯坦人的待遇如何？

Palestinians are being expelled from their homes, living under conditions that even Israel's own human rights organizations call apartheid in the West Bank where there is no Hamas.

在沒有哈馬斯的約旦河西岸，巴勒斯坦人被逐出家園，生活條件甚至被以色列自己的人權組織稱為種族隔離。

So yes, Hamas does despicable things, but these talking points, with all respect, people don't believe them anymore.

是以，沒錯，哈馬斯做了卑鄙的事情，但這些言論，恕我直言，人們已經不再相信了。

All they have to do is release the hostages.

She's the executive director of the World Food Program.

她是世界糧食計劃署的執行主任。

And she talked about what is happening right now in terms of the actual administration of aid and what it could be.

她還談到了目前在實際援助管理方面發生的情況以及可能出現的情況。

And she knows that because she's done it before.  When we had full access, we had 400 distribution sites.

她知道這一點，因為她以前做過。  當我們擁有全部權限時，我們有 400 個分銷點。

So the capability that we have is unmatched by any other organization or any other foundation.

是以，我們所擁有的能力是任何其他組織或基金會都無法比擬的。

And we know where our food goes because we have a system on the ground that is tested and works.

我們知道食物的去向，因為我們在當地有一個經過測試且行之有效的系統。

We need full sustained access, we need at scale so we can set up the kinds of aid stations that can actually help people and do it where it's not a panic situation.  Cindy's right.

我們需要全面、持續的援助，我們需要大規模的援助，這樣我們才能建立起真正能幫助人們的援助站，並在不會引起恐慌的情況下開展工作。  辛迪說得對。

Let me just say from the outset, Hamas is responsible for what happened in Gaza.

首先我要說，哈馬斯應對加沙發生的一切負責。

Having said that, Israel needs to be doing far more than they're doing to allow food to come in or to provide it themselves.

儘管如此，以色列需要做的遠比他們所做的更多，他們需要允許食物進入或自己提供食物。

And I mean, having spent much of the last three years in the Muslim world, you ought to see how the U.S. is being portrayed there for standing by and being silent, at least on this.

我的意思是，過去三年裡，我大部分時間都在穆斯林世界度過，你應該看看美國是如何被描述成袖手旁觀、保持沉默的，至少在這件事上是這樣。

Now, Hamas, they are a terrorist organization.

現在，哈馬斯是一個恐怖組織。

I don't speak for them, but Israel needs to do more and America needs to do more to force them to allow food in.

我不代表他們說話，但以色列需要做得更多，美國需要做得更多，迫使他們允許食物進入。

It's just, it's heartbreaking to see what's going on.

看到發生的一切，我真的很心痛。

I served meals in Southern Turkey after the earthquake with somebody from World Central Kitchen who later went to Gaza and was killed by a strike.

地震後，我和世界中央廚房的一個人一起在土耳其南部送餐，後來他去了加沙，在一次襲擊中喪生。

Anybody who can watch what we just watched and say, now Israel's doing enough, the U.S. is doing enough, we're not.

任何人看了我們剛才的表演都會說，現在以色列做得夠多了，美國做得夠多了，而我們做得不夠。

Yeah, I mean, she said 400 distribution sites is what they typically would have to feed a population of that size.

是的，我是說，她說 400 個配送點通常就能養活這麼大的人口。

And then at those sites, I can show you the headlines.

然後在這些網站上，我可以給你看標題。

I mean, dozens killed in separate incidents over the course of the last several weeks, just trying to get aid at those sites, creating incredibly dangerous conditions.

我的意思是，在過去幾周裡，數十人在不同的事件中喪生，他們只是試圖在這些地點獲得援助，這造成了令人難以置信的危險狀況。

It just seems, Abel, at this moment, it's not actually asking all that much for there to be more than what is happening right now, because what's happening right now is clearly not even close to being enough.

亞伯，此時此刻，我們的要求其實並不高，因為現在發生的一切顯然還遠遠不夠。

Abbie, to look at the images, obviously it's painful, especially I'm a father.

艾比，看著這些畫面，顯然是很痛苦的，尤其是我是一個父親。

There's a lot of us here who are fathers to see these kids.

我們這裡有很多人都是父親，都希望能看到這些孩子。

But then Hamas is just, they portray as a political party.

These kids wake up in the morning, there's a kazan coming over their head.

這些孩子早上醒來，頭上就會出現一個卡贊。

They paint them as snails so these kids can play in culverts to protect themselves.

他們把蝸牛畫成蝸牛的樣子，這樣這些孩子就可以在涵洞裡玩耍，保護自己。

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