Name: 特朗普關稅下的小企業：我對自己的政府這樣對我感到非常憤怒 (Small businesses under Trump’s tariffs: ‘I’m so angry that my own government has done this to me’)
Uploaded: 2025-06-17T15:42:50.000Z
Duration: 8 min 26 s

情態副詞

We're back with our business leaders series, where we talk to small business owners from coast to coast about President Trump's tariffs. Some, they're happy with them. Many are struggling. Today, we head to the great state of Ohio, some may say greatest state, to hear from Earthquaker Devices, a guitar pedal manufacturer based in Akron. It launched in 2004, when musician Jamie Stillman successfully repaired his own guitar pedal. The business now has 35 employees and sells more than 40 types of devices. Jamie's wife and the co-owner, Julie Robbins, joins me now.

我們的商業領袖系列又回來了，在這裡我們將與來自美國各地的小企業主們談談特朗普總統的關稅政策。有些人對此感到滿意。許多人則在苦苦掙扎。今天，我們來到俄亥俄州，有些人可能會說是最偉大的州，來聽聽位於阿克倫的吉他踏板製造商 Earthquaker Devices 的故事。該公司成立於 2004 年，當時音樂家傑米-斯蒂爾曼（Jamie Stillman）成功修理了自己的吉他踏板。該公司現在有 35 名員工，銷售 40 多種設備。傑米的妻子和共同所有人朱莉-羅賓斯（Julie Robbins）現在加入我的行列。

程度副詞

Julie, really appreciate your time. You are a U.S. manufacturer, but you do source some parts from overseas. Talk about the effect tariffs have had on your business.

朱莉，非常感謝你抽出時間。你們是美國製造商，但也從海外採購一些零部件。請談談關稅對你們業務的影響。

Yes, first of all, thank you so much for having me, Phil. And I'd also like to thank you for giving a voice to other small business owners and other members of the Main Street Alliance.

是的，首先，非常感謝你邀請我，菲爾。我還要感謝你為其他小企業主和 "主要街道聯盟 "的其他成員發出聲音。

So yes, as you mentioned, we're a U.S. manufacturer. We do everything here in downtown Akron, Ohio. And basically, our products use over 900, to be precise, 961 different components.

是的，正如你提到的，我們是一家美國製造商。我們在俄亥俄州阿克倫市中心生產所有產品。基本上，我們的產品使用了 900 多種，準確地說，961 種不同的組件。

And these are sourced from over 14 different countries of origin. So we import everything, but then we do all the manufacturing here. Due to the tariffs, our prices are rising drastically, and it's also created a market disruption and impacted our demand.

這些產品來自超過 14 個不同的原產國。是以，我們所有的產品都是進口的，但所有的生產都是在這裡完成的。由於關稅的原因，我們的產品價格大幅上漲，這也造成了市場混亂，影響了我們的需求。

Yeah, I was just going to ask, when you talk about your prices are rising significantly, are those being passed on? How are you weathering that?

是的，我只是想問，當你說到你們的價格正在大幅上漲時，這些價格是否被轉嫁出去了？你們是如何應對的？

Well, we need to pass them on, but we're unable to calculate the exact price increase due to the chaos around the tariffs. They're constantly changing from week to week. So we're unable to implement a price increase yet.

好吧，我們需要把它們傳遞出去，但由於關稅方面的混亂，我們無法計算出確切的價格漲幅。關稅每週都在變化。所以我們還無法實施提價。

But just an example, we have a product that without tariffs, it was $129, and we have about a 15% net profit on that. If the Chinese tariffs stay in place, we'd have to raise the price about 23% to maintain a profit margin on it.

舉個例子，我們有一款產品，如果不徵收關稅，售價為 129 美元，我們的淨利潤約為 15%。如果中國繼續徵收關稅，我們就必須把價格提高 23% 左右，才能維持利潤率。

One of the questions I always have is, how do you plan right now? What's the outlook for your business for the rest of this year, in this moment?

我經常問的一個問題是，你現在如何規劃？此時此刻，您對今年餘下時間的業務有何展望？

Well, we are down about 15% for the year. April was down nearly 30%. We are definitely seeing issues with consumer demand. Consumer sentiment is really low right now.

今年我們的業績下降了約 15%。四月份下降了近 30%。我們肯定看到了消費需求的問題。現在的消費者情緒真的很低落。

So we're forecasting that we'll be down. We're looking to save costs any way that we can, and really just paying attention to how things are changing. We have a lot of data, so we are always checking our data as every change goes into effect.

是以，我們預測我們的業績會下降。我們正在想方設法節約成本，並密切關注事態的變化。我們有大量的數據，所以我們總是在每次變化生效時檢查我們的數據。

But it's made things really challenging for any kind of long-term planning or product launches. So we've had to delay or even scrap product launches. And that's really unfortunate because a lot of our revenue is based on new products.

但是，這對任何長期規劃或產品發佈來說都是極大的挑戰。是以，我們不得不延後甚至取消產品發佈。這真的很不幸，因為我們的很多收入都是基於新產品。

Before I let you go, just your role in the community since inception. How do you guys view yourself in Akron?

在我讓你們離開之前，請先介紹一下你們自成立以來在社區中扮演的角色。你們如何看待自己在阿克倫的地位？

Well, if you know Akron, you know that we were really devastated when the rubber companies left and moved their manufacturing elsewhere in the 70s and 80s. In fact, where I am right now, we're right across the street from the former BF Goodrich factory.

如果你瞭解阿克倫，你就會知道，上世紀七八十年代，當橡膠公司離開並將生產基地轉移到其他地方時，我們真的是一蹶不振。事實上，我現在所在的地方，就在前 BF Goodrich 工廠的街對面。

So for us living and growing up in this place, we really wanted to create and maintain good jobs here. So jobs that pay a living wage, that have paid time off and benefits and health care, retirement planning. And we feel that that's incredibly important for our community.

是以，對於在這裡生活和成長的我們來說，我們真的希望在這裡創造並保持良好的工作。是以，我們希望在這裡創造並保持一份好工作，一份能支付生活工資的工作，一份有帶薪休假、福利、醫療保健和退休計劃的工作。我們認為這對我們的社區非常重要。

So even though it always would have been more affordable to manufacture overseas, we've always prioritized having jobs here in Ohio. We are now actually considering for the first time offshoring our manufacturing due to the chaos around the tariffs.

是以，儘管在海外生產總是更經濟實惠，但我們始終優先考慮在俄亥俄州創造就業機會。由於關稅引發的混亂，我們現在實際上第一次考慮離岸生產。

Our competitors overseas, they are not dealing with these issues. They don't have these extra fees. And so it's like the U.S. is basically the least competitive place to be manufacturing.

我們在海外的競爭對手，他們沒有處理這些問題。他們沒有這些額外的費用。是以，美國基本上是製造業最沒有競爭力的地方。

The business, once again, is Earthquaker Devices. It's based in Akron, Ohio. Check it out if you're in Northeast Ohio. Julie Robbins, really appreciate your time. Thanks so much.

這家公司就是 Earthquaker Devices。它位於俄亥俄州阿克倫市。如果你在俄亥俄州東北部，可以去看看。朱莉-羅賓斯，非常感謝你抽出時間。非常感謝。

So Americans reeling in their spending in the wake of President Trump's tariffs. That's according to new data from the Commerce Department, which said consumers save more money in April compared to just one month earlier.

是以，美國人在特朗普總統徵收關稅後開始縮減開支。美國商務部的最新數據顯示，與一個月前相比，消費者在四月份節省了更多的錢。

They're also spending mostly on necessities, such as housing, health care and groceries.

他們的支出也主要用於必需品，如住房、醫療保健和日用品。

And I want to bring in Stu Leonard. He's the CEO of Stu Leonard's Grocery Stores, a small regional chain in New York, New Jersey and Connecticut.

有請斯圖-倫納德。他是斯圖-倫納德雜貨店的首席執行官，這是紐約、紐澤西和康涅狄格州的一家小型地區連鎖店。

Stu, you source much of your food from U.S.-based suppliers. Have you noticed any disruption in the supply chain because of tariffs?

斯圖，你們的大部分食品都來自美國的供應商。您是否注意到關稅對供應鏈造成的干擾？

No. You know what? There's there's a couple groups of products here in Mexico and Canada for fresh foods tariff free under the NAFTA Act.

不，你知道嗎？根據《北美自由貿易協定法案》，墨西哥和加拿大有幾組新鮮食品免徵關稅。

So we have like, you know, salmon's really hot right now. We have avocados, which is really the number one fruit in our in our whole produce section here.

所以，我們有三文魚，你知道，現在真的很熱。我們有鱷梨，這是我們整個農產品區的頭號水果。

No tariffs on that. So we haven't raised the price. Prices are the same as they were. You wouldn't even notice.

沒有關稅。是以，我們沒有提高價格。價格和以前一樣。你根本不會注意到。

Here's where you do notice a tariff. Things like this with bananas. OK, we're getting them from from South America.

這就是你會注意到關稅的地方。比如香蕉好的，我們從南美進口香蕉。

And then also, we were getting cherries from Chile. But, you know, California is lighting up right now.

此外，我們還從智利進口櫻桃。但是，你知道，加利福尼亞州現在很火。

We're in the local produce for America right now. So a lot of things that we were buying from Chile and so forth, we're able to to get from California, from Florida right now.

我們現在是美國當地的農產品生產商。是以，我們從智利等地購買的很多東西，現在都能從加利福尼亞州和佛羅里達州買到。

And we're coming into local New Jersey, Connecticut and New York are producing some great stuff.

我們正在新澤西州、康涅狄格州和紐約州當地生產一些好東西。

So here on the lead, we talk to small business owners just about every day about Trump's tariffs.

是以，我們每天都會與小企業主談論特朗普的關稅政策。

Some are in favor. Some aren't. One sector seeing some relief has been domestic seafood.

有些人贊成。有些人不贊成。國內海產品行業的情況有所緩解。

Do you reap any of the benefits of that? Well, oh, yeah.

你能從中得到什麼好處嗎？嗯，哦，是的。

You know, instead of buying, like, for instance, salmon from Norway, like like I saw you did this little thing here.

比如說，我看到你在這裡做了一件小事情，而不是從挪威購買三文魚。

But this is one of our nice 15 pound salmons that we have. The price is not going up on this right now.

但這是我們擁有的 15 磅重的上等鮭魚之一。現在價格不會上漲。

The same thing with things like this. I know I heard you're a customer there, Phil.

這種事也是一樣我聽說你是那裡的顧客，菲爾

So here's something you would love for Father's Day. You know, right here is a big tomahawk steak.

這是你會喜歡的父親節禮物你知道，這裡有一大塊戰斧牛排

No increase in price on those. They're not there. There's domestic local product.

不漲價。它們不在那裡。有國內在地產品。

So I think what we're seeing right now is there's a couple of things that are being impacted, like for instance, they don't grow bananas in the United States right here.

是以，我認為我們現在看到的是，有幾樣東西受到了影響，比如說，美國不在這裡種植香蕉。

What am I going to do? I got a tariff on those things. So what I've been doing with them is splitting it.

我該怎麼辦？我對這些東西征收關稅。所以我一直在做的就是把它們分開。

So I'm eating half the tariff and the suppliers eating half the tariff.

是以，我吃一半的關稅，供應商吃一半的關稅。

That's going pretty well. Some of the time, though, I'm not even I'm just taking the tariff on if you're a small supplier, because I don't want to.

進展還算順利。不過，有些時候，如果你是小供應商，我甚至不會承擔關稅，因為我不想承擔。

We don't want to hurt a small business that's selling to Stu Leonard right now.

我們不想傷害現在正向斯圖-倫納德銷售的小企業。

Yeah. Please wrap that up. I texted my wife. We're going to be coming by to pick up that steak.

好的請把它包起來我給我妻子發了簡訊我們會過來拿牛排的 We're going to be coming by to pick up that steak.

That's a one sitting steak in the Mattingly household. Stu Leonard.

在馬婷婷家，那是一塊單人牛排。斯圖-倫納德

Let's do Leonard's Grocery Stores. Appreciate it, my friend. Thanks so much.

我們去萊納德雜貨店吧非常感謝，我的朋友。非常感謝

Hey, hey, Phil. I know I know you're you're on a tight thing here, but it's water safety time this year.

嘿，嘿，菲爾我知道你現在手頭很緊 但今年是水上安全時間

Right. This is drowning season. You notice that tick tocker with three million people just had her three year old drowned in a pool.

對現在是溺水季節你注意到那個有三百萬人的 "滴答滴答" 剛剛在游泳池裡淹死了她三歲的孩子嗎？

I feel so terrible about it. But be careful with your kids around the water right now.

我感覺很糟糕。但現在在水邊要小心照顧你的孩子。

OK, watch them. And it's like designated driver for drinking.

好吧，看著他們。這就像喝酒時的指定司機。

You need a designated watcher for your kids around the pool.

您需要為泳池邊的孩子指定一名看護人。

Please be safe around the water and protect your kids.

請注意水邊安全，保護好您的孩子。

I absolutely second that message. Really appreciate it, my friend. Thanks so much.

我完全贊同你的觀點。非常感謝，我的朋友。非常感謝。

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