Name: 川普「斷然拒絕」共和黨提出的門戶關閉方案，以資助國土安全部部分經費！ (Trump ‘emphatically rejected’ off-ramp presented by GOP to fund parts of DHS)
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As we've been talking about, security lines are growing at airports across the country.

我們之前有聊過，全國各地的機場安檢線越來越長了。

But President Trump says that Republicans shouldn't make any deal to end the DHS shutdown unless Congress passes the Save America Act, which is the Republicans' voter ID bill.

不過川普總統說，除非國會通過共和黨的選民身份驗證法案 Save America Act，否則共和黨人不該為了結束國土安全部關閉而做任何交易。

I'm suggesting strongly to the Republican Party, don't make any deal on anything.

我強烈建議共和黨，什麼都不要做交易。

The most important thing we can have is what's called the Save America Act.

我們最重要的東西，就是這個叫做 Save America Act 的法案。

Don't make any deal on anything unless you include voter ID.

什麼都不要做交易，除非你們把選民身份驗證包含進去。

Republicans do not settle with Democrats and let them out of this hole that they've buried themselves in.

共和黨人不要跟民主黨妥協，讓他們從自己挖的坑裡爬出來。

Well, President Trump says the bill should also include provisions that aren't in the current bill, including a ban on mail-in voting, a ban on biological men and women's sports, and

嗯，川普總統說法案裡還要包含現行法案裡沒有的條款，包括禁止郵寄投票、禁止生物學上的男性和女性運動，還有

a ban on transition surgeries for transgender minors.

禁止對跨性別未成年人進行性別重置手術。

NBC News has learned that this weekend President Trump rejected a plan to fund all of the Department of Homeland Security except for ICE, which would reopen TSA and bring an end to the chaos at airports.

NBC News 報導，川普總統這個週末拒絕了一項計畫，該計畫將撥款給國土安全部，但排除移民及海關執法局 (ICE)，這樣就可以重開美國運輸安全管理局 (TSA)，並結束機場的混亂。

Now, according to those sources, the off-ramp was presented to the president by Majority Leader Thune and supported by numerous Republicans.

根據消息人士說法，這個脫離方案是由多數黨領袖 Thune 提出給總統的，並且獲得許多共和黨人的支持。

Joining me now to talk more about this is senior national political reporter Sahil Kapoor.

現在加入我們討論的是資深國家政治記者 Sahil Kapoor。

So there's a lot of moving parts to this story, but

it's seemingly only getting more complicated, Sahil, now that the president is tying this to DHS funding negotiations.

但現在總統將此事與國土安全部的資金談判連結在一起，事情似乎變得更加複雜了，Sahil。

I have to imagine that this is just not a road that Senate Republicans are interested in going down.

我可以想像參議院共和黨人對走這條路沒有興趣。

The dynamic on DHS funding is looking worse today than it was a few days ago.

國土安全部資金的態勢，今天看起來比幾天前更糟。

And the turning point was a Presidential Truth Social post last night, which I'll get to.

而轉捩點是總統昨晚在 Truth Social 上的一篇貼文，我稍後會講到。

But in recent days, there was an off-ramp that was floated between Republicans.

但最近幾天，共和黨人之間提出了一個脫離方案。

It was kind of batted around between Senate Republicans, including Republican aides here, and the White House.

參議院共和黨人，包括這裡的共和黨助理，還有白宮，都在討論這個。

It was presented to John Thune, the Majority Leader.

也提交給了多數黨領袖 John Thune。

Essentially, what it would do is it would have Republicans take Democrats up on their offer to fund the non-controversial parts of DHS, with TSA being at the top of that list, and

基本上，這個做法是讓共和黨人接受民主黨的提議，撥款給國土安全部中沒有爭議的部分，其中美國運輸安全管理局 (TSA) 是最重要的。

to save ICE and immigration funding, which is the controversial piece, for a separate filibuster-proof budget reconciliation bill that the GOP could pass without any Democratic votes.

然後將移民及海關執法局 (ICE) 和移民資金這比較有爭議的部分，留給共和黨可以單獨通過、不受民主黨阻撓的預算和解法案。

Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana, a proponent of this idea, he explained it on the Senate floor.

路易斯安那州的參議員 John Kennedy 是這個想法的支持者，他在參議院院會上解釋了這個方案。

We can be out of the shutdown by the end of the week.

我們可以在這週結束前結束停擺。

The Democrats are amenable to opening up everything at DHS, but ICE.

民主黨人同意開放國土安全部的所有項目，但 ICE 除外。

The very next day, we should file a budget resolution to reconciliation that funds ICE as we deem appropriate.

隔天，我們就應該提出預算決議，來協調我們認為適當的 ICE 資金。

We don't need Democratic votes to do that.

我們不需要民主黨的票來做這件事。

This would be a tough thing for Democrats to turn down if Republicans did, in fact, put it on the floor, Ryan.

如果共和黨人真的將這項提案提交表決，對民主黨人來說，這會是很難拒絕的事，Ryan。

But it's not going to happen, it seems, because President Trump emphatically rejected it in a Truth Social post last night and doubled down on those comments today, not only saying that Republicans should cut no deal with Democrats on DHS, but

但看來這不會發生，因為川普總統昨晚在 Truth Social 上強烈拒絕了這項提議，並且今天又加強了這些說法，他不僅說共和黨人不應該在國土安全部上與民主黨人達成任何協議，

they should wait until the Save America Act passes the Senate.

他們還應該等到 Save America Act 通過參議院。

That is not going to happen, as we've spoken about many times here.

正如我們在這裡討論過很多次，這是不會發生的。

Republicans don't have the votes to sustain a talking filibuster.

共和黨人沒有足夠的票來維持冗長的辯論。

They don't have the votes to nuke the filibuster.

他們沒有足夠的票來廢除冗長辯論。

But they're still going through the stages of grief, so to speak, before they get to acceptance on that.

不過他們還在經歷所謂的「悲傷階段」，才能走到接受。

There's no path at this moment for either DHS funding or the Save Act, Ryan.

目前沒有任何國土安全部資金或 Save America Act 的可行途徑，Ryan。

So, I mean, Senate Republicans have an option here, don't they, Sahil?

所以，我的意思是，參議院共和黨人有個選擇，對吧，Sahil？

They could just put it on the floor, whether or not the president likes it or not, and

他們可以直接提出來，不管總統喜不喜歡，

pass it, and then put the ball in the president's court.

然後通過，再把球踢回給總統。

Is there any chance that they would be willing to do that?

Very unlikely, Ryan, because they would have to get to a veto-proof majority to override a presidential signature.

Ryan，這非常不可能，因為他們需要達到能推翻總統否決的絕對多數。

That is not something that Republican a road that Republicans like to travel.

這不是共和黨人喜歡走的道路。

They generally like to work in tandem with the White House rather than get crosswise with the president.

他們通常喜歡和白宮合作，而不是和總統唱反調。

The only one I can think of recently was the Epstein-Files Transparency Act, where they kind of muscled Trump into supporting a bill that he didn't want to support.

最近我唯一能想到的就是《愛潑斯坦檔案透明法案》，他們有點強迫川普支持他原本不想支持的法案。

沒有證據顯示這裡有發生這樣的事。

It's important for us to remind them of that from time to time.

我們不時提醒他們這一點很重要。

Sahil Kapoor，謝謝你提供這些資訊。

And remember, stay updated on breaking news and top stories on the NBC News app or watch live on our YouTube channel.

記得，在 NBC News app 上隨時掌握最新突發新聞和頭條，或在我們的 YouTube 頻道上觀看直播。

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