Name: 四、五十國代表齊聚國際原子能高峰會！ BBC新聞 (Representatives from about 40 countries attend International Atomic Energy Summit | BBC News)
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Now, let's go to what's happening in France, because representatives from about 40 countries and international organizations are in Paris for a meeting to discuss nuclear power.

接下來，我們來看看法國那邊發生的事，大約有40個國家和國際組織的代表齊聚巴黎，要開會討論核能。

And this comes, of course, as the US Israeli conflict against Iran highlights the dangers of reliance on fossil fuels.

這當然發生在美以衝突對抗伊朗，凸顯了依賴化石燃料的危險之際。

The meeting's to be opened by President Emmanuel Macron.

這場會議將由馬克宏總統來揭開序幕。

Let's talk to our correspondent, Hugh Scofield.

Hugh, this meeting coming at a really pertinent time when the vulnerability of fossil fuels is really in focus.

Hugh，這場會議來得真是關鍵時刻，化石燃料的脆弱性正受到高度關注。

I mean, this is part of a program of summits which kicked off a couple of years ago in Brussels and which is part of an ongoing effort, international effort, to resuscitate and give life back into the civilian nuclear power industry.

我的意思是，這是幾年前在布魯塞爾啟動的一系列峰會的一部分，也是一項持續努力、國際努力，旨在復甦並注入活力給民用核能產業。

France very much involved in all of this, of course, because France does have a very substantial civilian nuclear energy capacity of its own and wants to be very much part of this relaunch, as it hopes will take place for all sorts of reasons.

法國當然非常積極參與這一切，因為法國本身就擁有非常可觀的民用核能產能，並且希望成為這次重啟計畫的一份子，因為他們希望這能發生，原因有很多。

You know, climate change is one thing, demand from AI is another thing.

你知道，氣候變遷是一回事，AI的需求是另一回事。

But of course, right now, all minds focus on the perennial issue of the vulnerability of fossil fuel supplies.

但當然，現在所有人的目光都聚焦在化石燃料供應脆弱性的老問題上。

So the need to diversify away from that is what gives this summit, which as I say, was pre programmed a long time ago, added relevance.

所以，擺脫這種依賴的需求，讓這次峰會——正如我所說，這是很久以前就預定好的——更具相關性。

We're looking at the live pictures, waiting for President Macron to arrive at this summit.

我們正在看現場畫面，等待馬克宏總統抵達這次峰會。

Hugh, just taking a step back, and the reaction to the war in France more widely.

休，讓我們稍微退一步，看看法國對這場戰爭更廣泛的反應。

We saw President Macron very visibly in the Mediterranean yesterday.

昨天我們看到馬克宏總統在地中海非常活躍。

嗯，我的意思是，這有兩個面向。

One is, one is, as you say, what we saw yesterday, the military posture.

一個是，正如你所說，我們昨天看到的軍事態勢。

France very much, I think, well, I have to say, slightly relishing the distinction that's been drawn between it and Great Britain, France and its capacity to push its fleet out into the zone quite quickly.

我認為法國非常，嗯，我必須說，有點樂於接受它與英國之間劃清的界線，法國及其迅速將其艦隊部署到該區域的能力。

Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier is there.

法國的戴高樂號航空母艦就在那裡。

它在塞普勒斯附近有一艘護衛艦。

It's promising to have eight frigates there very quickly and helicopter carriers to secure.

看到八艘巡防艦和直升機母艦迅速到位，這很令人鼓舞。

Well, to play a part in securing the East Mediterranean, defending its allies.

嗯，這是在保護東地中海、保衛其盟友方面扮演重要角色。

And it has military allies in the zone, in Qatar and the uae, and

而且該區域有軍事盟友，在卡達和阿拉伯聯合大公國，以及

ultimately in helping assure free passage of ships through the Gulf of Hormuz, the Strait of Hormuz.

最終是協助確保荷姆茲海峽、荷姆茲海峽的船隻通行自由。

But of course, there's the other aspect to it all, which is the domestic aspect, energy supplies.

但當然，這整件事還有另一個面向，那就是國內的面向，能源供應。

And there is growing pressure here as elsewhere, to do something about the soaring cost of energy.

在這裡和其他地方一樣，人們越來越有壓力，希望能做些什麼來解決飆升的能源成本。

And in France, there is this constant idea that the state will step in.

在法國，一直有個想法認為國家會介入。

Well, you know, the Same demands are being made of the government now to step in and do something about this inflation in petrol prices and ultimately possibly across the board in prices.

嗯，你知道，現在政府面臨同樣的要求，要介入處理汽油價格的通膨問題，最終可能還會擴及到所有價格。

But the Macron's government is in no position to do anything about it because it's living on a, on a financial budgetary knife edge.

但馬克宏政府現在根本沒辦法做什麼，因為他們正處於財務預算的危險邊緣。

So it's going to resist as long as it can this pressure from down below to step into, to remove taxes or put a cap on prices at the petrol pump.

所以，他們會盡可能地抵抗來自底層要求介入、取消稅金或設定油價上限的壓力。

But all of that sort of feeds into this bigger idea, longer term idea of diversifying, getting more of France's energy and Europe's energy from civil nuclear programs, which will be the subject of conversation and discussion and decisions at this summit.

但這一切都融入了這個更宏大、更長遠的想法，也就是能源多元化，讓法國和歐洲的能源更多地來自民用核能計畫，這將是這次峰會的談話、討論和決策的焦點。

Hugh, while you've been speaking, Emmanuel Macron has arrived at the summit.

休，在你說話的時候，馬克宏總統已經抵達峰會了。

He is greeting fellow delegate, delegates and VIPs there.

他正在跟其他代表和貴賓打招呼。

He's just meeting Rafael Grossi, the head of the IAEA, the UN's nuclear body.

他剛剛見了國際原子能總署（聯合國核能機構）的署長 Rafael Grossi。

Who else do we know will be present for this summit?

還有哪些人會參加這次峰會呢？

As you say, it is pre planned, although it's very pertinent to what is going on in the Middle East.

正如你所說，這是事先安排好的，儘管這跟中東正在發生的事非常相關。

這場峰會已經安排了一段時間了。

Well, I don't have the list in front of me.

I know There are about 40 countries and international agencies there.

我知道大約有 40 個國家和國際組織會來。

The list has gone down slightly because of what's happened in the Middle east and the fact that some people, I presume, from the Middle east aren't going to be attending.

因為中東發生的事情，以及我猜想有些來自中東的人不會出席，所以名單稍微縮減了。

The Americans will be here, the Chinese will be here, both of which have said that they are intending to launch big programs in civil power stations, that the hope is, I mean Macron's hope is that he can persuade the world's financial markets, the big financial players, the pension funds and so on, to start investing in civilian nuclear power.

美國人會來，中國人也會來，他們都表示打算啟動大型民用核電站計畫，馬克宏總統希望藉此說服全球金融市場、大型金融機構、退休基金等，開始投資民用核能。

And he also hopes that France will benefit from that.

France does have, as I said, this, this pre existing capacity and knowledge and expertise in civil nuclear energy and wants to be able to exploit that by selling its services around the world.

如我剛才說的，法國有現有的能力、知識和專業知識，並希望透過向全球銷售其服務來加以利用。

Ursula von der Leyen is also here and there's an announcement expected from her about the European Union's program of small micro nuclear power stations, which again should be coming online or they're hoping to come online in the coming decades.

馮德萊恩也在此，預計她將宣佈歐盟的微型核電站計畫，這也希望能在未來幾十年內上線。

So all of this is in the mix that the hope is, and

這一切都在討論之中，希望能夠實現，

this has been spelled out at dubai at the COP28, if you remember a couple of years ago, that by the middle of the century civil nuclear power generation will have been tripled and from Being at the preserve of maybe, what, 30 countries around the world, it'll be maybe 70 or 80 countries that are producing civil nuclear energy on some scale or another.

這在幾年前的杜拜 COP28 會議上已經說得很清楚了，到本世紀中葉，民用核能發電量將增加兩倍，從可能只有 30 個國家使用，增加到約 70 或 80 個國家，在某種規模上生產民用核能。

And that's what the issue is at this summit, against the background, as we said, and

這就是這次峰會的焦點，背景正如我們所說的，

as we saw a couple of years ago, after the Russian Ukraine war was launched, at a time of instability caused by the vulnerability and the perennial sort of instability of the Middle east and the oil that flows out of the Straits of Hormuz.

就像我們幾年前看到的那樣，在俄烏戰爭爆發後，在中東的脆弱性和長期不穩定，以及從荷姆茲海峽流出的石油所造成的動盪時期。

Hugh, what is the French public making of the war in the Middle east and France's response?

休，法國民眾對中東戰爭和法國的反應有什麼看法？

Well, I mean, they're fixated on the potential for disruption to their lives.

嗯，我是說，他們非常關注對他們生活可能造成的幹擾。

You know, people are worried about the potential for inflation.

你知道，人們擔心通貨膨脹的可能性。

Everyone remembers what happened in 2022, and

the big surge of inflation back then, which took a couple of years before it tailed off, and

當時通貨膨脹大幅飆升，花了幾年時間才趨緩，

whose effects have not left us because many prices are still much higher now than they were then.

它的影響並沒有消失，因為現在很多價格仍然比那時候高很多。

They're worried about the petrol pump rises, which, as we were saying, have shot up.

他們擔心汽油價格上漲，正如我們剛才說的，已經飆升了。

It's now €2 a litre for diesel in my local petrol station, for example.

舉個例子，我住家附近的加油站，機油現在一公升要兩歐元。

這一個星期就漲了 25 到 30 美分。

People are looking at the region, of course, and, you know, are concerned on a kind of humanitarian way about what is happening out there.

人們當然會關注那個地區，而且，你知道，是以一種人道的角度關心那裡發生的事。

But I think they take a certain pride and, you know, share in a sense of national pride in the fact that Macron has announced and the presence of this fleet there so quickly in the region.

但我認為，他們對馬克宏總統宣佈並迅速派遣艦隊到該地區感到相當自豪，並分享一種國家榮譽感。

I mean, I don't think anyone believes that this French presence is going to change matters considerably, but

我不認為有人相信法國的駐軍能顯著改變局勢，但是

I think the satisfaction that France has been able to show its presence there.

我認為法國能夠展現其在那裡的影響力，這讓他們感到很滿意。

Hugh Schofield, Paris correspondent there.

And we've been looking at those pictures from Paris.

我們剛才看了來自巴黎的畫面。

That summit aiming to boost the use of civilian nuclear power, opening in Paris in the next hours as that conflict in the Middle east, highlighting the dangers of reliance on fossil fuels.

這場旨在促進民用核能產業使用的系列峰會，即將在接下來幾小時於巴黎啟動，而中東的衝突正凸顯出依賴化石燃料的脆弱性。