Name: 伊朗每天都是「迫在眉睫的威脅」，美國共和黨主席告訴半島電視臺 (Iran an 'imminent threat' every day, US Republican chairman tells Al Jazeera)
Uploaded: 2026-03-04T23:04:07.000Z
Duration: 9 min 58 s

Joining us live now from Washington, D.C. is Brian Maass.

現場連線請到在華盛頓特區的 Brian Maass。

He is the chairman of the U.S. house Foreign Affairs Committee and a Republican U.S.

他是美國眾議院外交委員會的主席，也是來自佛羅裡達州的共和黨國會議員。

謝謝 Mas 國會議員接受半島電視臺的訪問。

Thank you, Congressman Mas, for speaking to Al Jazeera.

我想先請教您，因為您認為美國行動的目標是要消除對美國迫在眉睫的威脅。

I want to start with you because you argue that the objective of US Action is to eliminate an imminent threat to the United States.

您認為是基於什麼情報或指標，讓您相信來自伊朗的威脅已經達到那個等級了呢？

What intelligence or indicators would you say have convinced you that, that the threat from Iran had reached that level?

那我們就從最近的開始，然後往回追溯。

So let's start recent and work our way back.

顯然，在過去幾週，我們在阿曼、在日內瓦與阿曼、在日內瓦與其他國家進行的談判發生了什麼事，

Obviously there is what has gone on just in the last couple of weeks with our negotiations that were ongoing in Oman, in Geneva with Oman, in Geneva, with others, and

以及我們想要表達「不要核武、不要飛彈、不要代理人」。

the desire to say no nukes, no missiles, no proxies.

而那場對話的走向，我雖然不能跟您說裡面的所有細節，但可以說，它讓我們相信可能遭受襲擊。

And where that conversation was going, which I can't speak to you about where everything in that conversation was going other than to say it led us to believe that there was the potential for a strike.

並且那場對話的走向，我雖然不能跟您說裡面的所有細節，但可以說，它讓我們相信可能遭受襲擊。

You go beyond that and you look at the US Aircraft that had been knocked off the decks of our carriers because of the drones and ballistic missiles that Iran or their proxies had fired directly at our Navy vessels.

您再往更廣的範圍來看，我們看到伊朗或其代理人發射的無人機和彈道飛彈，直接擊落了我們航空母艦甲板上的美國飛機。

You look at their harassment of our merchant marine vessels as an ongoing threat.

您會看到他們持續騷擾我們的商船，這是一個持續的威脅。

You look a year and a half ago at their killing of three US servicemembers members in Jordan at a place called Tower 22.

您會看到一年半前，他們在約旦一個叫做「Tower 22」的地方，殺害了三名美國軍人。

That being Sergeant Moffitt, Sergeant Sanders, Sergeant Rivers and the list of these continual threats go on.

那就是莫菲特士官長、桑德斯士官長、裡維斯士官長，還有這些持續的威脅不勝枚舉。

In the United States, we designate Iran as the largest state sponsor of terror.

在美國，我們將伊朗指定為最大的國家級恐怖主義贊助者。

But what that means to me when I say they are the largest state sponsor of terror, that means to me that every single day they are an imminent threat against me until the day that I do not designate them the largest state sponsor of terror.

但對我來說，當我說他們是最大的國家級恐怖主義贊助者時，這意味著他們每天都對我構成迫在眉睫的威脅，直到有一天我不再將他們指定為最大的國家級恐怖主義贊助者為止。

And I just want to shift here to the goals.

Now, you have said that the goal is to degrade Iran's military capabilities rather than enter a full scale war.

您曾說過，目標是削弱伊朗的軍事能力，而不是全面開戰。

What would success look like from your perspective?

在您看來，成功的樣子會是什麼？

And how would Washington know that the objective has been achieved?

華盛頓要如何知道目標已經達成？

As our allies in the region know, we have a tremendous capability for intelligence because of our combined network of intelligence.

正如我們在該區域的盟友所知道的，由於我們情報的聯合網絡，我們擁有非常強大的情報能力。

You've seen the operations that have taken place.

Destroy every single piece of Iranian military hardware that can reach out and touch American forces anywhere in the region.

摧毀伊朗所有能夠觸及該區域任何地方的美軍的軍事硬體。

Whether that's surface to surface, surface to air, whether it's the platforms that deploy them, whether it's caches of the systems that would go inside of some type of launcher, whether it's assets that are working as a part of their navy, allowing them to mine the Straits of Hormuz or other places, whether it's buried in the side of a mountain or whether it's a mobile platform moving across the road somewhere to destroy every single piece of equipment that has been used in the past or could be used in the future to reach out and touch us or our allies.

無論是地對地、地對空，無論是部署它們的平臺，無論是將系統放入某種發射器內的儲存點，無論是作為其海軍一部分、讓他們能夠開採荷姆茲海峽或其他地方的資產，無論是埋在山邊，還是移動的平臺在路上某處移動，摧毀所有過去使用過或未來可能用來攻擊我們或盟友的設備。

That is what mission accomplished looks like.

I believe that we can accomplish that mission.

我相信我們能夠完成這項任務。

And maybe to say one final thing on that point, it would be it's a worthy goal to say taking out the archer is easier than taking out the arrows.

或許最後再補充一點，我們的目標很明確，就是移除發射飛彈的「弓箭手」，而不是那些「箭矢」。

And we are working to take out every bit of the archers that are deploying those arrows in our direction.

我們正在努力移除所有正朝我們方向發射「箭矢」的「弓箭手」。

Congressman, you sound, you know, very confident there that you will achieve those goals.

國會議員，聽起來您非常有信心能夠達成這些目標。

How confident, though, are you that the United States and its allies can contain the conflict and prevent a wider regional war?

不過，您對美國及其盟友能夠遏制衝突、防止地區戰爭擴大有多大信心？

Because that is a concern for many of us here in the region.

因為這也是我們這個區域許多人的擔憂。

We plan for the worst, we hope for the best.

我們為最壞的情況做準備，並期盼最好的結果。

But what we have going for us is every minute that goes forward, we are degrading their capabilities.

但我們有利的一點是，每過一分鐘，我們都在削弱他們的實力。

And at the same time, we are bringing more capabilities online.

同時，我們也正在啟用更多能力。

Certainly the United States of America, but

certainly allies in the region as well, because they see the justice in what we are doing.

當然也是區域內的盟友，因為他們看到了我們所做事情的正義性。

additionally because of the attacks that Iran has taken against those allies in the region that have caused them to say, you know what, we are not going to stay out of this fight.

另外，因為伊朗對這些區域盟友發動的攻擊，讓他們不得不說，你知道嗎，我們不會置身事外。

We are going to get involved either in a defensive or an offensive posture.

我們將以防禦或進攻的姿態介入。

And the US has had long standing partnerships across Middle east for decades now.

美國在中東地區有著數十年的長期合作夥伴關係。

How do you see allies in the region responding if the tension does continue for a long time?

如果緊張局勢持續很長一段時間，你認為該地區的盟友會如何回應？

This is a tension that has existed for a very long time.

這種緊張關係已經存在了很長一段時間。

I would beg the question, why does the United States of America have forces across the region?

我想問，為什麼美利堅合眾國會在該地區部署軍隊？

Whether in Bahrain, uae, uae, Qatar, in Sinai, Egypt, anywhere throughout the region, why do we have these forces?

無論是在巴林、阿聯酋、卡達、埃及的西奈半島，還是該地區的任何地方，我們為什麼要駐軍？

And it is in part to protect what are our interests in the region?

這部分是為了保護我們在這個地區的利益嗎？

And in part as well, because two things can be true at once.

也有一部分是因為，兩件事情可以同時成立。

So many of our partners and our allies want us there because they realize they are a couple minute supersonic jet ride away from Iran.

我們許多夥伴和盟友希望我們在那裡，因為他們意識到，他們離伊朗只有幾分鐘的超音速噴射機航程。

And without the United States of America's capabilities there, they worry about getting rolled over by Iran in the same way that Kuwait was rolled over by Iraq.

如果沒有美利堅合眾國在那裡的能力，他們擔心會像科威特被伊拉克吞併一樣，被伊朗吞併。

We are that hedge of protection we have been that hedge of protection against that.

我們就是那樣的保護屏障，我們一直是那樣的保護屏障。

And so it's numerous fold reasons why we have that presence there.

所以我們在那裡有駐軍，原因有很多。

I think that relationship and that recognition of the protection that we provide I think will continue.

我認為這種關係以及對我們所提供保護的認可，我想會持續下去。

And what the point is that the United States of America has gotten to is we are no longer going to stand by and be harassed or be attacked by Iran.

美利堅合眾國現在的立場是，我們不再會袖手旁觀，任由伊朗騷擾或攻擊。

We're not going to have US Sailors put on their knees on an Iranian vessel and then go in the future and reward them with billions of dollars.

我們不會再讓美國海軍人員在伊朗船艦上被跪地，然後未來還獎勵他們數十億美元。

We are going to instead, once and for all put Iran on their knees and never have to respond to that threat again.

相反地，我們要徹底讓伊朗屈服，再也不必回應那樣的威脅。

And as you said there, that you are, as in the US a hedge of protection.

而且就像你剛才說的，你們在美國就像一道保護的屏障。

And that's certainly been the case when it comes to Israel.

You've been a strong supporter of Israel yourself and its security.

你自己一直以來都是以色列及其安全的堅定支持者。

So that leads me to ask you in the current environment, how do you think US Attacks against Iran would serve Israel's long term security concerns?

所以這讓我問你，在目前的環境下，你認為美國對伊朗的攻擊，對以色列長期的安全顧慮會有什麼幫助？

And let's add to this certainly a hedge of protection for Qatar, uae, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the list goes on and on.

而且我們也為卡達、阿聯酋、巴林、沙烏地阿拉伯、科威特等國家，提供了一層堅實的保護。

Again, what I already outlined against that threat, that is Iran and that is being proven by Iran right now.

再一次，我剛才說的，就是針對伊朗這個威脅，而伊朗現在也正在證明這一點。

But I think what it does for all of those allies, to include Israel and to include all US Forces in the region, is to say our goal is to eliminate every single platform that can reach out and touch us.

但我想這對所有盟友，包括以色列，以及該地區所有的美軍來說，都是在表明我們的目標是消除所有能夠攻擊到我們的平臺。

That means the United States and that means all of our allies that are in between there.

這意味著美國，也意味著所有在我們之間的盟友。

All of us are in a stronger position when that goal reaches mission accomplished.

當這個目標達成時，我們所有人都會處於一個更強大的位置。

And we are not in the business of failing.

We are not in this to not reach our objective.

我們不是為了達不到目標而來的。

We are in this to get to mission accomplished and change the face of the world so that Iran is, is no longer the largest state sponsor of terror, no longer the largest instability anywhere across the globe because of what they do with their ballistic missile platforms, where they sell their shaheed drones to, what they work to develop in terms of nuclear weapons or even have the capabilities for some type of dirty device or a more old rudimentary type nuclear weapons system, what they do in training their proxies to bring terrorism across the entire region.

我們是為了達成目標，改變世界格局，讓伊朗不再是最大的恐怖主義國家贊助者，不再是全球各地不穩定的根源，因為他們發展彈道飛彈平臺，他們銷售 Shaheed 無人機，他們在核武方面的發展，甚至擁有某種髒彈或更原始的核武系統的能力，以及他們訓練代理人將恐怖主義帶到整個地區。

All of that comes to an end and we are all better for it.

這一切都將終結，而我們都會是以變得更好。

And I just want to, Congressman Moss, turn to diplomacy now.

莫斯國會議員，我想現在轉向外交。

We did hear from US President Donald Trump earlier saying that it's too late for that.

我們確實聽到了美國總統唐納·川普稍早的說法，表示現在太遲了。

What conditions do you think, if any, would need to be in place for there to be space there for diplomacy with Iran, for it to resume.

您認為，如果有的話，需要具備哪些條件才能為與伊朗的外交留有空間，讓外交能夠恢復？

And do you believe the relationship has now entered a fundamentally different phase?

您認為兩國關係是否已進入一個根本上不同的階段？

Yes, I believe that we've entered the United States of America's strongest round of negotiations with Iran in history is the way that I would classify that.

是的，我認為我們已經進入了美國歷史上最強硬的對伊朗談判階段，我會這樣歸類。

And what needs to take place to step back to the negotiating table would be to say, okay, Iran, we acknowledge that we are in a position that we will say, no pursuit of nukes, no pursuit of ballistic missiles, no support of any terrorist proxies anywhere in the region or within our shores.

而要重回談判桌，就必須說，好的，伊朗，我們承認我們現在的立場是，我們將不會追求核武，不會追求彈道飛彈，也不會在該地區或我們境內支持任何恐怖主義代理人。

If they say they are willing to meet those as a starting negotiating point, then I think the United States of America would step to the table and say, okay, let's begin the process.

如果他們說願意將這些作為談判的起點，那麼我認為美國就會走到談判桌前說，好的，讓我們開始這個過程。

I think we would continue attacks until we get to the point of finalizing an agreement, deroding destroying that infrastructure that we are working at right now, because we are not going to give them an opportunity to regroup, to take a breath.

我認為我們會繼續攻擊，直到我們達成協議的最終階段，摧毀我們現在正在努力的基礎設施，因為我們不會給他們重新集結、喘息的機會。

We're not going to take our foot off their throat in any way, shape or form.

我們絕不會在任何方面放鬆對他們的壓力。

And so if they want to step up with that as a plan, that is a proposal.

所以如果他們願意以此為計畫，這就是一個提議。

But I don't think there's going to be much conversation until that time.

但我認為在那之前不會有太多對話。

That's the U.S. republican Congressman Brian Mast, also the chairman of the U.S. house Foreign Affairs Committee.

這是來自佛羅裡達州的共和黨國會議員 Brian Mast，他也是美國眾議院外交委員會的主席。