Name: 英國國會議員安迪·伯恩漢尋求回歸國會之路受阻！| BBC News (Andy Burnham's bid to return as UK MP blocked | BBC News)
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Well, let's look further at that breaking news.

好的，我們來看看這則最新消息。

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With Andy Burnham having been blocked from standing as a candidate for an upcoming parliamentary by election in Gorton and Denton by Labour's ruling body as a directly elected mayor, Mr.

由於直接民選市長安迪·伯納姆被工黨的領導機構禁止參選Gorton and Denton的國會補選，他。

Burnham had to get approval from Labour's National Executive Committee after he applied to be a candidate on Saturday.

伯納姆先生週六申請參選後，必須獲得工黨全國執行委員會的準許。

Some NEC members were concerned about an expensive mayoral election to replace Andy Burnham.

一些全國執行委員會成員擔心，要取代安迪·伯納姆將會是一場昂貴的市長選舉。

And allies of the Prime Minister, Sir Keir Starmer, feared that he could mount a leadership challenge should he return to Westminster.

而首相施凱爾·斯塔默的盟友們則擔心，如果他回到國會大廈，可能會發起領導權挑戰。

Well, before that decision was made, the Home Secretary, Shabana Mahmoud, said this.

好的，在做出這個決定之前，內政大臣沙巴娜·馬哈茂德是這麼說的。

Andy has said in his own words that Care is the best person to be the Prime Minister.

安迪親口說過，凱爾是成為首相的最佳人選。

And he's made it very clear in his letter what his motivation is for wanting to come into Parliament.

他在信中非常清楚地說明瞭他想進入國會的動機。

I do believe Andy Burnham because I take him at his word.

我確實相信安迪·伯納姆，因為我以他的話為準。

I've never had any reason not to take him at his word.

我從來沒有任何理由不以他的話為準。

As I say, we work very closely together, and

就像我說的，我們合作非常密切，而且

I am going to take what he says at face value because I know I can do that with Andy.

我會相信他所說的話，因為我知道我可以這樣對待安迪。

That was Shyvana Mahmoud speaking earlier on the Laura Kingsburg program.

剛才那是沙巴娜·馬哈茂德在勞拉·金斯堡的節目上說的。

I think it was more than 5050 that the decision would go this way.

我認為這個決定會這樣發展的機率遠超過 5050。

I think there were many people counseling that that might be a mistake.

我認為有很多人勸說這可能是一個錯誤。

There were other people saying the opposite.

但也有其他人說了相反的意見。

But I think given the makeup of the committee and some of the attitudes that we'd seen being reported in the last couple of days, I think that it did seem that this was the way it was going to go.

但我想，考量到委員會的組成，以及過去幾天報導出來的一些態度，我覺得這似乎就是事情的發展方向。

What problems, though, does this result cause for the Prime Minister and the Labour Party generally?

不過，這個結果會給首相和整個工黨帶來什麼問題呢？

Well, there's like an ironclad rule in the Labour Party that if you make a ruling that is intended to benefit your faction, it almost always redounds on you.

嗯，工黨有個鐵律，如果你做了一個旨在讓你的派系受益的決定，它幾乎總是會反噬到你自己身上。

It almost always goes against you in ways that you just hadn't envisaged.

這幾乎總是會以你沒預料到的方式對你不利。

Andy Burnham might not be the individual who is vested with the leadership speculation, but

Andy Burnham 可能不是被寄予領導層猜測的對象，但

that's not going to quell leadership speculation.

And I'm afraid that in attempting to do so, it just looks more like Keir Starmer is weak.

我擔心，試圖這麼做，反而更顯得 Keir Starmer 很軟弱。

Emma, you probably need a drink, so I'm going to let you grab a glass of water.

Emma，妳可能需要喝點東西了，所以我就讓妳去拿杯水。

we'll fold you back into the conversation in a minute, because also joining us is Meghan Kenyon, political correspondent for the New Statesman.

我們很快就會讓妳回到對話中，因為 New Statesman 的政治記者 Meghan Kenyon 也加入了我們。

I hope you don't have a frog in your throat.

Tell us what you think of this decision that they've made to block Andy Burnham from taking part in this by election.

告訴我們妳對他們決定阻止 Andy Burnham 參加這次補選有什麼看法。

Yeah, I mean, as Emma said, it kind of wasn't that surprising.

是啊，就像 Emma 說的，這其實沒什麼好意外的。

I think as soon as the by election had been announced, there was speculation one, that Andy Burnham would put himself forward, but

我覺得一旦補選宣佈，就有人猜測一，Andy Burnham 會毛遂自薦，但

also that if he chose to do so, he would be blocked.

也猜測如果他這麼做，就會被阻止。

I think, you know, obviously, as I just said, wasn't a surprising decision, but

我覺得，就像我剛才說的，這決定並不令人意外，但

I think there will be several consequences for the Prime Minister after this.

我認為這件事之後，首相會面臨一些後果。

Obviously, yesterday had several members of his own Cabinet saying that Andy Burnham shouldn't be blocked.

顯然，昨天他內閣裡有好幾位成員都說 Andy Burnham 不應該被阻止。

You know, Lucy Powell and A.T. miliband both saying things along those lines.

妳知道，Lucy Powell 和 A.T. miliband 都說了類似的話。

Angela Rayner, former Deputy Prime Minister, today saying something similar, and Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London.

Angela Rayner，前副首相，今天也說了類似的話，還有倫敦市長 Sadiq Khan。

it's not just them, there's MPs within the party who I think will see this as the wrong decision.

不只是他們，黨內也有一些國會議員，我認為他們會覺得這個決定是錯的。

But I guess the logic being put forward by that NEC officers group was that Labour didn't want to have to fight a by election for the Manchester mayoralty and run the risk of reform winning there, having control over policing in Manchester, because obviously that role includes police and Crime commissioner.

但我猜 NEC 官員團體提出的邏輯是，工黨不想為了曼徹斯特市長補選而戰，冒著讓 Reform 在那裡獲勝，控制曼徹斯特警務的風險，因為顯然這個職位包含了警察和犯罪專員。

So, yeah, you mentioned, just to back up a second, you said there could be several consequences now for the Prime Minister.

所以，是的，妳提到了，讓我倒退一秒，妳說首相現在可能會面臨一些後果。

Well, I think this doesn't shut down leadership speculation.

嗯，我認為這並沒有終止對領導權的猜測。

It's not just Andy Burnham who has been rumored to be considering posing a challenge to the Prime Minister.

不只是 Andy Burnham 一直被傳言說在考慮挑戰首相。

as he sort of flagged yesterday, has been subject to a lot of briefings is where streeting.

就像他昨天稍微提到的，一直被很多消息人士關注，那就是 Streeting。

I mean, I think he, in his comments about Andy Burnham yesterday was quite strategic.

我認為，他昨天對 Andy Burnham 的評論其實很有策略。

He said, you know, it was a decision for the party, not the Cabinet, but

他說，你知道，這是黨的決定，不是內閣的決定，但是

then said that all of the anonymous briefings that Andy Burnham had been subjected to in the past few days were disgraceful.

他接著說，這幾天所有針對 Andy Burnham 的匿名爆料都很可恥。

And obviously, you know, last week we saw reports in the Times, allies of Keir Starmer kind of saying that he should sack West Streeting because of sort of repeated moments where he's kind of stuck his head above the parapet.

顯然，你知道，上週我們在 Times 看到報導，施凱爾·斯塔默的盟友說他應該開除 West Streeting，因為他好幾次都衝太前面了。

But, yeah, I think this won't shut down those sort of conversations.

但，是的，我認為這不會停止那些討論。

And there's definitely movement within the Parliamentary Labour Party and this could just galvanize it.

而且國會工黨內部肯定有動作，這可能會更加激勵他們。

Let's bring Emma Bunnell from Labour List back in.

我們請 Labour List 的 Emma Bunnell 回來。

Emma, you've been listening to what Meghan says.

妳認為這在多大程度上影響了妳的...

The Prime Minister weakened within his own party.

I think it does because a strong leader accepts a challenge and takes on all comers.

我認為是的，因為一個強有力的領導者會接受挑戰，並且迎戰所有對手。

By saying, I don't want this thorn in my side in the Labour benches, it doesn't stop leadership speculation.

說「我不希望工黨陣營裡有這個眼中釘」，這並不會阻止關於領導權的猜測。

As Megan has said, there are plenty of other people that people are speculating about.

正如 Meghan 所說，還有很多人是大家正在猜測的對象。

What it does say is say, I cannot stand up to this speculation.

這確實說明瞭「我無法承受這種猜測」。

I think Starmer would have looked stronger if he'd said, you know, we're a united team and we're better with all of our talents on these benches.

我認為如果 Starmer 說「你知道，我們是一個團結的團隊，我們需要所有這些人才在我們這邊」，他看起來會更強硬。

The other problem, of course, is that Labour are going to fight a by election.

當然，另一個問題是工黨將要打一場補選。

One way or another, that is going to happen.

And, you know, while there was absolutely no guarantee that had Burnham been been selected as the candidate he would have won, he is popular in Manchester.

而且，你知道，雖然不能保證如果 Burnham 被選為候選人他就能贏，但他在曼徹斯特很受歡迎。

He did outstrip the Labour Party when it came to the vote for his mayoralty.

在他競選市長的投票中，他的得票確實超越了工黨。

So if Labour loses that by election again, anything could happen.

所以，如果工黨再次輸掉這場補選，什麼都有可能發生。

Labour could have a great candidate and they could fight a great campaign.

工黨可以有一個很棒的候選人，他們也可以打一場很棒的選戰。

But the national polls are painful at the moment for the Labour Party.

但目前的全國民調對工黨來說很痛苦。

You know, that 13,000 majority currently held, if that's overturned, I just think that is a moment of pure crisis for the Starmer leadership.

你知道，目前持有的 13,000 票多數優勢，如果被翻轉，我認為這對 Starmer 的領導層來說將是純粹的危機時刻。

Whereas if that had been overturned with Andy Burnham in post, that might have actually been a better result than them losing it with any other candidate.

相反，如果由 Andy Burnham 擔任市長時這被翻轉了，那結果可能比他們失去這個席位但由其他候選人參選還要好。

Let me just share with you both this extra information that we've got from Chris Mason, our political editor.

讓我跟你們分享一下我們從政治主編 Chris Mason 那裡得到的額外資訊。

He says that the Prime Minister was among those who had a vote at this morning's meeting to determine whether Andy Burnham could stand in this by election.

他說，首相是今天早上決定 Andy Burnham 是否能參加這次補選的投票者之一。

And Sir Keir Starmer, Chris Mason is telling us, voted to block him standing.

而且施凱爾·斯塔默，克里斯·梅森告訴我們，他投票反對他參選。

Prime Minister's allies say that Burnham is doing a very good job as the mayor.

首相的盟友說，伯納姆作為市長做得很好。

And a mayoral election by election could cost the party hundreds of thousands of pounds.

而且一次市長補選可能會讓黨花費數十萬英鎊。

The cost to the country of millions of pounds during the cost of living crisis, and

在生活成本危機期間，國家要花費數百萬英鎊，而且

他們擔心一場分裂的競選活動。

Those who blocked Andy Burnham intend to make it public that during a period of geopolitics dominating the headlines and deep concerns about the cost of living crisis at home, there'd be no appetite for the country to return to political psychodramas of the Tory years.

那些阻止安迪·伯納姆的人打算公開表示，在地緣政治主導新聞頭條以及國內對生活成本危機深感擔憂的時期，國家不會有興趣重回保守黨執政時期的政治鬧劇。

That's the explanation, Meghan, that is being given.

To what extent will that satisfy everyone in the Labour Party?

這在多大程度上能讓工黨的每個人都滿意？

I guess, as Emma said, the Labour Party is still going to have to fight a by election in the next few months, and

我猜，正如艾瑪所說，工黨在接下來的幾個月裡仍然必須打一場補選，而且

I think that will bring the Fact that they won't have to fight one in Manchester will bring an end to the psychodrama.

我想，曼徹斯特不用補選這件事，就能讓這場政治劇落幕。

I mean, you know, figures like Zia Youssef from Reform and Zach Polanski from the Greens are already being rumored to be planning to run in those seats.

我是說，你知道，像 Reform 的 Zia Youssef 和 Greens 的 Zach Polanski 這些人物，已經傳出要在這些選區參選了。

I mean, nothing has been confirmed yet, but

我是說，目前都還沒確定，但是

I think people will probably look on this as it's not really to do with wider circumstances and more to do with the Prime Minister's own circumstances.

我想大家可能會認為，這跟大環境沒什麼關係，比較跟首相個人狀況有關。

I could very much see Labour MPs coming to those conclusions a little bit more from Chris Mason saying that he's been told that it was 8 to 1 in favour of blocking Andy Burnham and that the Home Secretary, Shabana Mahmoud Mood, who is the chair of this committee, abstained.

我非常能想像工黨的國會議員會得出這樣的結論，Chris Mason 說他被告知，反對安迪·伯納姆參選的投票是八比一，而內政大臣、這個委員會的主席沙巴娜·馬哈茂德棄權了。

I mean, she didn't need to cast a deciding vote.

我是說，她不需要投下決定性的一票。

The deputy leader, Lucy Powell, apparently voted him voted to allow him to stand.

副黨魁 Lucy Powell 據說投票讓他參選。

I mean, this tells us something about the relationship, doesn't it, Emma, between Lucy Powell and Keir Starmer?

我是說，這告訴我們一些關於 Lucy Powell 和施凱爾·斯塔默之間關係的事情，對吧，艾瑪？

I think it's less about the relationship with Lucy Power and Keir Starmer, which, I mean, started badly, seemed to be getting better in recent weeks.

我認為這跟 Lucy Powell 和施凱爾·斯塔默的關係比較沒關係，我是說，他們的關係一開始就不太好，但最近幾週似乎有改善。

And Lucy, up until yesterday, whilst saying that she thought that Andy should be able to run, also said that she felt like this was a time to get behind Keir Starmer.

而且 Lucy 直到昨天，雖然說她認為安迪應該可以參選，但也表示她覺得現在是該支持施凱爾·斯塔默的時候了。