Name: 國會能阻止川普吞併格陵蘭嗎？桑德斯參議員說：可以！ (Can Congress Stop Trump From Taking Greenland? Sen. Bernie Sanders Says Yes)
Uploaded: 2026-01-21T17:26:43.000Z
Duration: 4 min 43 s

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Hey everybody, we're back with Senator Bernie Sanders.

各位觀眾大家好，我們又請到參議員伯尼·桑德斯了。

The President has threatened new tariffs against Europe unless they let him have Greenland.

總統威脅要對歐洲課徵新關稅，除非他們把格陵蘭給我們。

Would you be in favor of us getting Greenland as long as we also got Denmark socialized health care.

只要我們也獲得丹麥的社會化醫療保健，你贊成我們得到格陵蘭嗎？

The first time you came on this show over 10 years ago, you talked about like, Denmark's a great model for us.

十多年前你第一次上這個節目時，你曾說過，像是，丹麥是個很棒的榜樣。

Maybe we could get infected with some of those ideas.

也許我們會受到一些想法的影響。

I mean, Democrat Denmark, you know, provides free, high quality health care to their people.

我的意思是，民主的丹麥，你知道的，為人民提供免費、高品質的醫療保健。

A free college education, very strong childcare, Their workers make good wages.

免費的大學教育、非常完善的育兒，他們的勞工有不錯的工資。

It is a very modern, progressive society.

這是一個非常現代、進步的社會。

But between you and me, I don't think that that is what Trump's idea is.

但我們私下說，我不認為這就是川普的想法。

You know, in the midst of all of the craziness, the idea that you would have a president of the United States, say Norway, you didn't give me the Nobel Prize.

你知道嗎，在所有瘋狂的事情中，美國總統竟然會說，挪威，你沒有給我諾貝爾獎。

what it is, I mean, it really is, it's like a narcissistic 4 year old spoiled brat, you know?

這是，我的意思是，它真的就像一個自戀的四歲寵壞的小孩，你知道嗎？

Yeah, I'm gonna yell and scream cause I didn't get my extra cup of ice cream.

是啊，我會大喊大叫，因為我沒有得到我額外的冰淇淋。

So, you know, what do you think is really behind this?

所以，你知道，你認為這背後真正的原因是什麼？

Why do you think Donald Trump really wants to do this?

你認為唐納·川普為什麼真的想這麼做？

Because first he says it's security, but we've got military.

因為他一開始說這是安全問題，但我們有軍事。

I've been up to the military base up there, it's lovely, but it's gravel and it's ice.

我去過那裡的軍事基地，那裡很漂亮，但都是碎石和冰。

And we already have the right to put other military bases up there and we've got our ships all around there.

而且我們本來就有權在那裡設立其他軍事基地，我們的船也都在那裡巡邏。

And when you talk he says, oh, what about rare earth and all that kind of stuff?

所以，你說到他，他就會說，喔，那稀土跟其他那些東西呢？

We don't really know what's underneath that ice cap.

我們其實不知道冰帽下面有什麼。

We don't really know, interestingly enough.

And I don't know all that much about it, but

我對這方面也不是很瞭解，但是

there's some evidence once again that some of our oligarchic friends are investing since Trump has started talking about Greenland, that some of these guys are investing money in what might be a mineral rich area.

有證據顯示，自從川普開始談論格陵蘭以來，我們的一些寡頭政治的朋友們正在投資，因為這裡可能是一個礦產豐富的地區。

Yeah, but it would take a quadrillion dollars of investment.

對，但那需要千兆美元的投資。

Can Trump be stopped if he wants to seize this yes.

川普如果想奪取這裡，能被阻止嗎？

How can Congress do something to stop him?

I mean, there are a variety of things short of war with our allies.

我的意思是，有很多方法，不用跟盟友開戰。

I mean, there are war powers resolutions, acts which would prevent him.

我的意思是，有權力決議案、法案可以阻止他。

Did that prevent him from going into Venezuela?

Well, we didn't pass it, as a matter of fact.

I think, you know, I'm not a great fan of my Republican colleagues, but

我覺得，你知道，我不是非常喜歡我的共和黨同事，但是

I think that for a variety of reasons, including self preservation, I think there are about 8% of the American people think invading Greenland is a good idea.

我認為，因為各種原因，包括自我保護，我覺得大約有 8% 的美國人認為入侵格陵蘭是個好主意。

And I think some of my Republican colleagues are understanding that this is just very, very crazy and not something that can be supported.

我認為我的一些共和黨同事明白，這實在是太瘋狂了，是無法支持的。

Do you believe that they believe that NATO should be preserved?

你相信他們認為北約應該被保留嗎？

Because obviously we're already very close to having destroyed NATO.

因為顯然我們已經非常接近摧毀北約了。

Just the threat itself of one NATO country threat threatening to invade another NATO country, really sounds like the death of NATO to me.

一個北約國家威脅要入侵另一個北約國家，光是這種威脅本身，對我來說聽起來就像是北約的終結。

You know, I think, you know, understanding that we have had an alliance with European countries for, you know, well over 100 years, that we save the world from Nazism and fascism because of the United States and the UK And France and European countries, I think that's, that's a deep alliance.

你知道，我想，你知道，我們和歐洲國家已經結盟了，你知道，超過 100 年了，我們因為美國、英國、法國和歐洲國家，從納粹主義和法西斯主義手中拯救了世界，我認為這是一個深厚的聯盟。

And I don't think the American people want to give that up to go to bed with the guy in Saudi Arabia, so.

而且我不認為美國人民會想放棄這個，然後跑去跟沙烏地阿拉伯那個人稱兄道弟。

Okay, we're gonna take another little break here, but right back with more Senator Bernie Sanders, everybody.

好的，我們要再休息一下，但馬上回來，繼續聽參議員伯尼·桑德斯說，大家。

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