Name: 哈瓦那症候群：五角大廈測試祕密臥底行動購得的神祕裝置！ (Havana Syndrome: Pentagon testing mysterious device bought in undercover operation)
Uploaded: 2026-01-14T17:12:17.000Z
Duration: 9 min 28 s

Well, we're learning that the Pentagon is testing a device that could be behind mysterious ailments that hit American spies, diplomats and troops.

嗯，我們得知五角大廈正在測試一款裝置，這款裝置可能與攻擊美國間諜、外交官和阿兵哥的神祕疾病有關。

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The illness first emerged nearly 10 years ago.

這種疾病大約在十年前首次出現。

That's when US diplomats in Havana, Cuba reported vertigo, severe headaches and other signs of trauma.

那時，美國駐古巴哈瓦那的外交官報告出現眩暈、嚴重頭痛和其他創傷跡象。

Later cases of so called Havana Syndrome were reported worldwide.

之後，所謂的哈瓦那症候群病例在全球各地都有報導。

Sources say the device was purchased for millions of dollars in an undercover operation in the last days of the Biden administration.

消息人士稱，這款裝置是在拜登政府最後幾天的一次臥底行動中，花費數百萬美元購得的。

Senior national security reporter Zach Cohen joins us now from Washington.

資深國家安全記者 Zach Cohen 現在從華盛頓加入我們。

What more are you learning about this, Zach?

Sources telling us that the Pentagon spent millions of dollars to purchase this device as part of an undercover operation conducted jointly with the Department of Homeland Security in the waning days of the Biden administration and that U.S.

消息人士告訴我們，五角大廈花費數百萬美元，在拜登政府後期，與國土安全部聯合進行的一項臥底行動中購買了這款裝置，而且美國

officials have spent over a year now examining the device, studying it, and

官員們花了一年多的時間來檢視這款裝置、研究它，

still have not definitively concluded whether or not it is linked to those mysterious health incidents.

但仍未有確切結論，顯示它是否與那些神祕健康事件有關聯。

Over a dozen that we know of have been reported.

據我們所知，已經有十幾起事件被報導了。

But there is evidence suggesting new evidence suggesting that it potentially was, and

但有證據顯示，新的證據顯示它潛在可能有關，而且

we're learning from our sources that the makeup of this device really is something that investigators have honed in on.

我們從消息人士得知，這款裝置的組成是調查人員特別關注的重點。

They've found that the device produces what's known as pulsed radio waves.

他們發現這款裝置會產生所謂的脈衝無線電波。

That's something US Officials and academics have long speculated to be the source, the cause of these symptoms that have been reported by US Spies, diplomats and troops around the world, and

美國官員和學者長期以來一直猜測，這可能是導致世界各地美國間諜、外交官和阿兵哥回報的這些症狀的來源、原因，而且

We're also learning that while not entirely Russian in origin, the device is comprised of various Russian components, which obviously raises significant concerns and questions about a country that the US Considers to be a foreign adversary potentially having some role in developing this device that is suspected of being used to target US Officials around the world.

我們也瞭解到，雖然這款裝置並非完全源自俄羅斯，但它是由各種俄羅斯零件組成的，這顯然引起了嚴重的擔憂和質疑，因為美國認為俄羅斯是外國敵對國家，卻可能在開發這款裝置方面扮演了某種角色，而這款裝置被懷疑是用來鎖定世界各地美國官員的。

And we're also told too, a key part of this is that the device is relatively small in its fit into a backpack.

而且我們也被告知，這款裝置的關鍵部分是它體積相對較小，可以放進揹包裡。

And that gets to one of the core questions that has been on the top of mind for US Officials is how can a device that cause so much damage, the damage that's been reported by these victims, but

這也引出了美國官員們一直最關心的核心問題之一：一個會造成如此嚴重損害的裝置，這些受害者回報的損害，但

It seems this device would check that box as well.

看起來這款裝置確實符合這個條件。

So we're going to continue to push the US Government, the US Intelligence community, the Pentagon and Department of Homeland Security.

所以我們會繼續向美國政府、美國情報界、五角大廈和國土安全部施壓。

For more clarity on this, you may remember that the CIA, their response to these victims has really shifted over time.

關於這點，你可能還記得，中央情報局對這些受害者的回應是隨著時間而轉變的。

Those victims feel largely that the Biden administration, and

這些受害者大多覺得，拜登政府，

to date the Trump administration, has largely dismissed their reported symptoms.

以及到目前為止的川普政府，都基本上忽視了他們回報的症狀。

Their calls for some sort of an answer as to an accountability as to what happened while they were serving their country and a key concern Here as well is if this device does prove to be viable, it could mean that it was potentially proliferated, meaning that there could be several foreign countries that have this capability and could potential use it against US Service members, US diplomats abroad in a way that this device is suspected to have been used.

他們呼籲要對他們在服役期間所發生的事情有所交代，並追究責任，而這裡一個主要的擔憂是，如果這款裝置確實被證明是可行的，這可能意味著它已經被擴散了，也就是說，可能有好幾個外國國家擁有這種能力，並可能像懷疑的那樣，用來對付在海外服役的美國軍人、美國外交官。

Important to follow up on and to hopefully find out more for those victims.

重要的是要跟進，並希望為這些受害者找出更多資訊。

Joining us now is the editor for the Insider, Michael Weiss.

現在加入我們的是 Insider 的編輯 Michael Weiss。

And, Michael, you've been reporting on Havana Syndrome for quite a bit now.

Michael，你報導哈瓦那症候群已經有一段時間了。

What's your reaction to this new reporting?

你對這個新的報導有什麼看法？

Well, first of all, it's a fantastic piece by cnn, and

嗯，首先，這是 CNN 的一篇很棒的報導，而且

it sort of conforms to a lot of what we at the insider had.

它大致符合我們 Insider 的許多發現。

兩年前，在與 60 Minutes 合作時，我們發現了顯示俄羅斯軍事情報單位 GRU，代號為 29155 部隊，可能與此有關的證據。

Two years ago, in a collaboration with 60 Minutes, we found evidence suggesting that a unit of Russian military intelligence, the GRU, known as Unit 29155.

全世界都知道他們是誰，因為他們就是那些在索爾茲伯裡毒害謝爾蓋和尤利婭·斯克裡帕爾的人。

Everybody in the world knows who they are because these are the guys responsible for poisoning Sergey and Julius Skripal and Salisbury.

他們企圖在蒙特內哥羅發動政變。

Jake，他們所做的，都是實質性的行動。

All that they do, Jake, is kinetic operations.

他們所做的一切，傑克，都是親

They kill people and they blow things up.

We found evidence that this unit had not only worked on research, scientific research, into directed energy weapons.

我們發現了證據，顯示這個單位不只在研究定向武器，還在進行科學研究。

We have the documents from their inboxes to prove it.

我們有來自他們收件匣的文件可以證明。

But we were able to locate two of their operatives in two places.

但我們找到了他們在兩個地方的兩名特工。

Two different cities at two different time periods.

在兩個不同的城市，兩個不同的時間點。

Tbilisi, Georgia, and Frankfurt, Germany, actually, going back to 2014.

喬治亞的提比裡西，還有德國法蘭克福，其實可以追溯到 2014 年。

So this predates Havana, Cuba, in 2016, where two victims whose medical records we also examined alleged that they succumbed to these symptoms.

所以這比 2016 年古巴哈瓦那的事件還要早，當時有兩名受害者，我們也檢視了他們的病歷，他們聲稱出現了這些症狀。

And as you mentioned, there are neurological symptoms, traumatic brain injuries, and

而且就像你說的，有神經學症狀、創傷性腦損傷，

in some cases, really physically debilitating ailments.

而且在某些情況下，還有真的會讓人身體衰弱的疾病。

我們認識的一個人，法律上是全盲的。

He has to walk around with a weighted vest for the rest of his life.

他餘生都得穿著負重背心走路。

I mean, it renders you dysfunctional at its worst.

我說，最糟的情況下，這會讓你無法正常生活。

These two victims identified two of these GRU operatives and said these people were skulking around outside of our area.

這兩名受害者指認了兩名俄羅斯情報總局（GRU）的特工，並說這些人在我們區域外鬼鬼祟祟。

In one case was a residence in Tbilisi, Georgia, in a suburban community.

其中一個案例是喬治亞提比裡西郊區的住宅。

And the other case, it was Frankfurt, the consulate in Frankfurt, Germany, and, you know, credible actors.

另一個案例則是德國法蘭克福的領事館，而且，你知道的，都是可信的演員。

One worked for doj, and the other worked for a US Intelligence agency.

其中一人在司法部工作，另一人則在美國情報機構工作。

So one of the main bulwarks that we've been trying to determine here is could a device like this exist?

所以，我們一直試圖確定的主要障礙之一是，這樣的裝置是否存在？

如果存在，它能被單人攜帶嗎？

And CNN reports that not only has the Pentagon been tinkering with this thing for a year, but

而且 CNN 報導說，五角大廈不只研究這個東西一年了，

And, oh, by the way, it has Russian components.

而且，對了，它有俄羅斯零件。

Although the device is not entirely made up of Russian components.

雖然這個裝置並非完全由俄羅斯零件組成。

Two years ago, you published your investigation linking Havana Syndrome to the use of energy weapons and a Russian military intelligence unit at the time.

兩年前，你發表了調查報告，將哈瓦那症候群與當時能量武器的使用以及俄羅斯軍事情報單位連結起來。

Now, Vice President J.D. vance, then Senator J.D.

現在，副總統 J.D. Vance，當時的參議員 J.D.

vance responded, quote, feels like a lot of journalists have lost their minds, unquote.

Vance 回應說，引述，感覺很多記者都瘋了，引述。

He went on to say something even weirder.

Now, your investigation led to US Senators urging the Biden administrative bipartisan group of US Senators urging the Biden administration to reinvestigate the root cause of Havana Syndrome.

現在，您的調查促使美國參議員，也就是當時的拜登政府跨黨派參議員小組，敦促拜登政府重新調查哈瓦那症候群的根源。

We should note then, Senator, now Secretary of State Marco Rubio's signature is on there.

我們應該注意到，參議員，現在的國務卿馬可盧比歐的簽名也在上面。

I assume that J.D. vance has called you and apologized.

我猜 J.D. Vance 有打電話給你道歉吧。

You'll be shocked to discover he has not.

And it was a very kind of churlish and puerile comment from J.D. vance.

而且 J.D. Vance 的評論非常粗魯又幼稚。

I kind of got the impression he didn't bother to read our investigation.

我感覺他根本沒仔細看我們的調查。

You know, one of the results of that investigation, we were kind of girding our loins for what the pushback from the intelligence community was going to be.

你知道，那次調查的結果之一是，我們其實在為情報界會如何反擊做準備。

And what we discovered is nobody could knock down what we uncovered.

而我們發現的是，沒有人能推翻我們揭露的真相。

Nobody could say this is just patently false.

It was an attempt to kind of deflect and say, well, you know, we still don't have any credible evidence, et cetera.

這是一種試圖轉移焦點，說「嗯，你知道，我們仍然沒有任何可信的證據」等等。

But then some interesting things happened.

The intelligence community assessment came out, and two agencies.

情報界評估報告出來了，其中有兩個機構。

they said that there's now a 50, 50 chance that such a device could exist.

他們說現在有五成機率這樣的裝置可能存在。

One agency went on to say it may have been used against Americans abroad.

其中一個機構接著表示，這裝置可能被用來對付在海外的美國人。

The other agency cast some doubt on that.

But that was a big move of the needle in terms of evidentiary support for ahi.

但這在支持 ahi的證據方面，是個很大的進展。

And then another thing happened, which is the House Permanent Select Committee Intelligence, which oversees the intelligence community, came out with a report last year saying that it's increasingly likely that some cases of AHI are caused by a foreign adversary.

接著又發生了另一件事，眾議院情報委員會，也就是監督情報界的委員會，去年發表了一份報告，表示AHI的某些病例越來越有可能是由外國敵對勢力所引起。

So again, you're seeing fall into place here.

所以你看，事情又開始串連起來了。