Name: 與湯姆-德隆的對話 | 藝術家簽名系列 | Fender (In Conversation with Tom DeLonge | Artist Signature Series | Fender)
Uploaded: 2025-06-19T17:30:32.000Z
Duration: 6 min 52 s

When you pick one of these things up, is there a specific song that you think of?

當你拿起這些東西時，是否會想到一首特定的歌曲？

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I mean, whenever I pick up this guitar, it's always...

我的意思是，每當我拿起這把吉他，它總是...

It's like all these little riffy things were all on this guitar.

所有這些小玩意兒都在這把吉他上。

It's funny because I write them all on acoustic guitar.

有趣的是，我都是用木吉他創作的。

I just have a little shitty acoustic in my house.

If I can make it sound good on that, I'm like, it's going to sound really good once it's on electric guitar.

如果我能用吉他彈出好聽的聲音，我就會想，用電吉他彈出的聲音一定會非常好聽。

So I remember I always pick this thing up and play the songs I wrote at home and I go, oh, fuck, it's rad.

所以我記得我總是拿起這個東西，在家裡播放我寫的歌，然後我就會想，哦，媽的，太酷了。

It's not just like kind of cool, it's like way better.

The thing about rock and roll that separates us from kind of pop music is that like the authenticity of the people doing it, the story of where they came from, something that's really true to them that they're trying to emote and trying to like communicate it back for other people to like see your point of view on the world.

搖滾樂與流行音樂的不同之處在於，搖滾樂手的真實感，他們來自哪裡的故事，他們試圖表達的真實情感，他們試圖傳達給其他人，讓他們看到你對世界的看法。

你知道，我們來自破碎的家庭。

So we were like, we wanted to viciously attack with happiness and humor and energy and speed.

是以，我們想用快樂、幽默、活力和速度來狠狠地進攻。

And so it was very much like forcing happiness with brute strength, you know, and that's what the band's always been about.

是以，這很像是用蠻力來強迫快樂，你知道，這也是樂隊一直以來的宗旨。

Our guitar riffs are no different than the way we write our vocal melodies and stuff.

我們的吉他旋律與我們創作聲樂旋律的方式並無不同。

And I used to always say it was like nursery rhymes on meth.

我以前總說，這就像吸毒後的童謠。

And everyone likes nursery rhymes because you can whistle it and usually you can go up with your two fingers and play it on piano.

每個人都喜歡童謠，因為你可以吹口哨，通常還可以用兩個手指彈鋼琴。

And I think that's kind of like all the Blink melodies are that way.

我覺得這就像所有 Blink 的旋律一樣。

And I think a really simple guitar kind of matches that.

我認為一把簡單的吉他就能與之相匹配。

Well, it was a really great time in the late 90s and early 2000s because obviously the internet was taken off.

上世紀 90 年代末和本世紀初是一個非常好的時期，因為很明顯，互聯網已經興起。

So I just think as a whole, we remember that time frame.

所以我認為，作為一個整體，我們都記得那個時間段。

It's something pretty cool and something pretty inspirational.

這是一件非常酷的事情，也是一件非常鼓舞人心的事情。

And everyone's like, oh my God, we're all getting connected to each other.

每個人都在想，天啊，我們彼此都聯繫在一起了。

We can start to understand who each other are, you know, and Blink was popping at that moment.

我們可以開始瞭解彼此是誰，你知道，Blink 就是在那一刻蹦出來的。

We're kind of known and there's some nostalgia there for a pretty cool time frame.

我們是出了名的，人們會懷念那個很酷的年代。

I mean, just the fact that people still want this blows my mind.

我的意思是，人們還想要這個，這讓我大吃一驚。

Okay, so I remember when I was buying my first guitar and I was like, okay, I'm going to make this investment.

好吧，我記得當我買第一把吉他時，我就想，好吧，我要做這筆投資。

And they all had all these pickups and knobs and switches.

它們都有拾音器、旋鈕和開關。

And I was like, well, what all these fucking things do?

我就想，這些該死的東西都是幹什麼的？

And they're all, well, if you do this one, it's the pickup on the neck.

他們都說，好吧，如果你做這個，那就是琴頸上的拾音器。

If you do this one, it's a, you know, it bucks the hum or whatever, like all this weird shit.

如果你這樣做，就會產生嗡嗡聲或其他什麼聲音，就像所有這些奇怪的東西一樣。

I'm like, well, can I just like turn it up and play?

我就想，那我能不能把聲音開大點，然後播放呢？

So when I had a chance to make my own, I was like, well, just one knob and one pickup.

是以，當我有機會自己製作時，我想，好吧，就一個旋鈕和一個拾音器。

If I needed to sound different, I can like have a pedal or something, you know?

如果我需要不同的聲音，我可以裝個踏板什麼的，你知道嗎？

I don't need to be fucking around with all these switches.

I have plenty to think about when I'm playing live.

在現場演出時，我有很多事情要考慮。

So that's where the simple idea came from because I was like, you're up on stage.

這就是這個簡單想法的由來，因為我當時想，你在舞臺上。

I don't want to be like clicking things or you hit it with your hand and it shuts off for some reason.

我不希望像點擊東西一樣，或者你用手去敲它，它就會因為某種原因而關閉。

But then I was like, well, if I want it to be just mine, one thing the old, all the other Strats have were like that smaller headstock.

但後來我想，如果我想讓它只屬於我一個人，那麼其他所有 Strats 都有的一個特點就是琴頭較小。

And I saw this one in some old photo, the 70s headstock.

我在一些老照片上看到過這個，70 年代的機頭。

And I thought it just like kind of made way more sense on the guitar, like balanced out the size.

我覺得這樣在吉他上顯得更有意義，平衡了尺寸。

We put in this old pickup, the Invader, because it was super overdriven.

我們換上了這臺老式皮卡 "入侵者"，因為它的驅動力超強。

And it was like, I was such a garagey punk rock player.

就好像，我是個邋遢的朋克搖滾樂手。

And it kind of hides a lot because it's so distorted.

因為它太扭曲了，所以隱藏了很多東西。

And it just makes it really easy to play and just sounds good and big.

它讓演奏變得非常容易，聽起來又好又大。

And so I think it's like kind of the best guitar for anybody that just wants something to sound good.

是以，我認為這把吉他對於任何只想擁有好聲音的人來說都是最好的選擇。

And you turn it on and play and it works kind of with everything.

你把它打開並播放，它就會和所有東西一起工作。

The other thing, too, it's like the bright colors and like the fun California kind of thing.

還有一點，就是色彩鮮豔，像加利福尼亞那種有趣的東西。

I always like things that had like kind of timeless classic kind of bright colors.

我總是喜歡那種永恆經典的明亮色彩。

是的，我和亞歷克斯-佩雷斯合作過。

And Alex was always such a strong supporter and such an incredible human.

亞歷克斯一直是我們強有力的支持者，也是一個了不起的人。

And he knows everything about guitar, obviously.

He really helped me put together something that seems to have kind of stood the test of time.

他真的幫我整理了一些東西，這些東西似乎經受住了時間的考驗。

Being able to bring them back is so exciting, especially with the return of Blink-182.

能讓他們迴歸是一件令人興奮的事，尤其是 Blink-182 的迴歸。

All the nursery rhymes were written on this guitar.

所有的童謠都是用這把吉他寫成的。

Whenever I write anything, I try to like figure out what's the most simple, repetitive way to play this.

每當我寫任何東西時，我都會試著找出最簡單、最重複的演奏方式。

And hopefully it's a little clever in some spots.

希望它在某些地方能有點小聰明。

You know, a lot of people grow up, you're like, you'd be really good at guitar.

你知道，很多人在成長過程中，都會覺得自己很擅長吉他。

Or maybe you can like work your whole life, be a really great singer.

或者，你可以工作一輩子，成為一名真正偉大的歌手。

And I was like, maybe I could be decent at both because I just wanted to write my own songs.

我當時想，也許我在這兩方面都能做得很好，因為我只想寫我自己的歌。

And being the only guitar player in Blink, I was like, Well, if I just do like riffs and solos and shit, it's going to sound very empty.

作為 Blink 樂隊中唯一的吉他手，我當時想，如果我只彈一些類似 Riff 和獨奏之類的東西，聽起來會很空洞。

If I just do power chords the whole time, then it's going to sound like some version of the Ramones or something, you know, which you can't make any better, you know.

如果我一直只用強力和絃，那麼它聽起來就會像某個版本的雷蒙斯樂隊（Ramones）什麼的，你知道，你不可能把它做得更好，你知道的。

So I came up with a way of playing that's kind of unique to us, which was kind of riff and chords mixed together a lot of the time.

是以，我想出了一種我們獨有的演奏方式，那就是在很多時候將 Riff 和和絃混合在一起。

And somehow it just seems to resonate with a very large group in a certain way that maybe a lot of the other guitar players don't, because maybe they're older, maybe they're too good, maybe they're too sophisticated, you know.

不知何故，它似乎能以某種方式與一大批吉他手產生共鳴，而很多其他吉他手卻做不到，因為也許他們年紀大了，也許他們太優秀了，也許他們太老練了，你知道的。

I think that a lot of artists forget that half of the art is being accessible to people that notice it.

我認為很多藝術家都忘記了，藝術的一半在於讓注意到它的人能夠接觸到它。

You know, like you create all this stuff for you, but you're skipping over the fact that you're actually creating something that you want people to notice.

你知道，就像你為自己創造了所有這些東西，但你卻忽略了一個事實，那就是你實際上是在創造一些你希望人們注意到的東西。

And so you really got to back yourself up and kind of go, I want to do all these things with my art.

所以，你真的要給自己打氣，然後說，我想用我的藝術做所有這些事情。

What if I dial myself back a little bit and simplify things and make it a little bit more accessible?

如果我把自己放低一點，把事情簡單化，讓它更容易接受一些，會怎麼樣？

Then you'll get more people interested and you can bring them on a longer ride, you know.

這樣就會有更多的人對你感興趣，你就可以帶他們進行更長時間的騎行，你知道的。

I still think we're writing our best songs.

我仍然認為我們在寫最好的歌。

I think our upcoming album is probably our best album we've ever made.

我認為我們即將發行的專輯可能是我們做過的最好的專輯。

And the production that we brought on this tour is finally the first perfect, cohesive branding and symbol of everything that the band is about.

我們在這次巡演中帶來的製作終於成為了第一個完美的、具有凝聚力的品牌，也是樂隊一切的象徵。

It's got the nostalgia in there and the history in there, but it's also got the fun and reverency and childhood, you know, kind of charm.

它既有懷舊感和歷史感，又有趣味性和童年的遐想，你知道，這就是它的魅力所在。

And it's got the rebellion, but it's got all the technology too.

它有叛亂，但也有所有的技術。

So it's like this really cool rebirth of everything or the best of everything that we've done, but done the way people always wished we would have done it.

是以，這就像是我們所有作品的重生，或者說是我們所有作品的精華，但又是以人們一直希望的方式完成的。

You know, like, you guys aren't half bad now.

I've never been a guy to collect guitars.

I've never been a guy to tell you what it's all about.

我從來不會告訴你這是怎麼回事。

There are tools to me in the sense of, like, here's a flathead screwdriver.

對我來說，工具的意義在於，比如，這是一把平頭螺絲刀。

You can use it to twist some screws, but you can also use it to open up a can of peanut butter.

你可以用它擰螺絲，也可以用它打開一罐花生醬。

But you can also use it to, like, poke a hole in something.

但你也可以用它來在什麼東西上戳個洞。

I mean, it's like, what do you want to use it for?

我的意思是，你想用它來做什麼？

And guitars to me were like that, like, you know, what do you want to use it for?

吉他對我來說就是這樣，比如，你知道，你想用它來做什麼？

Am I just going to turn it on and let it feed back?

我是否只需打開它，讓它反饋資訊？

I think people get so lost on how you're supposed to play it and what you're supposed to do with it.

我覺得人們太迷茫了，不知道該怎麼玩，也不知道該怎麼做。

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