Name: 特朗普突襲播片控南非「白人種族滅絕」拉馬福薩冷靜化解- BBC News 中文 (特朗普突襲播片控南非「白人種族滅絕」拉馬福薩冷靜化解－ BBC News 中文)
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The South African president came looking for a reset in relations.

Hoping to get beyond Donald Trump's repeated unfounded allegations that there's a white genocide taking place in his country.

希望能擺脫唐納德-特朗普一再毫無根據地指控他的國家正在發生白人種族滅絕的說法。

Turn the lights down and just put this on, it's right behind you.

把燈關了，把這個戴上，它就在你身後。

But the White House had prepared an ambush, playing video clips of an opposition politician, Julius Malema.

但白宮早有埋伏，播放了反對派政治家朱利葉斯-馬勒馬的視頻短片。

Now, he has been expelled from the ruling ANC and they condemn his language.

現在，他已被執政的非國大開除，非國大譴責他的言辭。

We're going to shoot them with the machine gun.

They are going to run, they are going to run.

President Ramaphosa looked excruciatingly uncomfortable, trying to keep calm in the face of accusations he's presiding over a genocide.

拉馬福薩總統看起來極不自在，面對人們對他主持種族滅絕的指責，他努力保持鎮定。

Death, death, death, death, horrible death.

死亡，死亡，死亡，死亡，可怕的死亡。

Death, I don't know, white South Africans are fleeing because of the violence and racist laws.

死亡，我不知道，南非白人逃離是因為暴力和種族主義法律。

Mr. Trump also claims the South African government is seizing land from white farmers.

特朗普先生還聲稱南非政府正在沒收白人農民的土地。

No, no, no, no, you do allow them to take land.

不，不，不，不，你們確實允許他們佔用土地。

Nobody can take land and when they take the land.

沒有人可以奪取土地，當他們奪取土地時也是如此。

And when they kill the white farmer, nothing happens to them.

而當他們殺死白人農民時，他們卻什麼事都沒有。

There is quite, nothing happens, there is criminality in our country, people who do get killed unfortunately through criminal activity are not only white people.

在我們的國家裡，犯罪活動時有發生，不幸因犯罪活動而喪生的不僅僅是白人。

Dozens of white Africana farmers came to America as refugees last week.

上週，數十名非洲白人農民作為難民來到美國。

The White House believes they are being persecuted, while refugees from other countries are turned away.

白宮認為他們受到迫害，而來自其他國家的難民卻被拒之門外。

Today, the US accepted the gift of a luxury plane from the government of Qatar, the South African president wished he could offer the same.

今天，美國接受了卡達政府贈送的豪華飛機，南非總統希望自己也能接受同樣的禮物。

I'm sorry I don't have a plane to give you.

很抱歉，我沒有飛機可以給你。

But if your country offered the United States Air Force a plane, I would take it.

但如果貴國向美國空軍提供一架飛機，我會接受的。

Looking on, Elon Musk, who was born in South Africa and frequently makes allegations about anti-white racist violence.

埃隆-馬斯克（Elon Musk）出生於南非，經常指控反白人種族主義暴力。

This meeting was tense and testy, but did not descend into a full-scale row, world leaders have learned since President Zelensky's mauling.

自從澤倫斯基總統遭到毆打後，世界各國領導人瞭解到，這次會議雖然緊張而暴躁，但並沒有演變成全面的爭吵。

You don't cross swords with Donald Trump.

Well, let's go live now to South Africa and to Pumza Fihlani, who's there for us, and Pumza, what's been the reaction there to this extraordinary White House meeting?

普姆扎-菲拉尼（Pumza Fihlani）正在南非為我們直播，普姆扎，當地對這次非同尋常的白宮會議有何反應？

The early reaction here in South Africa is that the delegation seems to have largely avoided the worst outcome, which have been a public humiliation of President Cyril Ramaphosa and his team of ministers.

南非國內的初步反應是，代表團似乎在很大程度上避免了最壞的結果，即公開羞辱西里爾-拉馬福薩總統及其部長團隊。

But also, we are seeing analysts here tell us that they think that one of the core messages that the South African delegation was bringing, which is that there is no genocide, that everything needs to be looked at in the context of a crime problem in South Africa.

但是，我們也看到，這裡的分析家告訴我們，他們認為南非代表團帶來的核心資訊之一，即不存在種族滅絕，一切都需要在南非犯罪問題的背景下加以審視。

That that message was successfully communicated to President Trump.

這一資訊已成功傳達給特朗普總統。

On the sidelines of that, they've also told us that they've continued away from the cameras after that press briefing was done, speaking to President Trump about a trade agreement and also re-engaging positively as the two countries.

除此之外，他們還告訴我們，在新聞發佈會結束後，他們繼續避開鏡頭，與特朗普總統就貿易協議進行了交談，並重新積極地與兩國進行接觸。

This is something that South Africa finds very important, not just as the leading industrialized country in Africa.

南非認為這一點非常重要，而不僅僅是作為非洲主要的工業化國家。

But also as a country that is currently head of the G20 group, um, and some of those groups, um, they're having complained what about what they see is a difficult relationship with President Trump.

但同時，作為20國集團（G20）的現任主席國，嗯，其中一些集團，嗯，對他們認為與特朗普總統的關係不融洽表示不滿。

So a lot of people will be taking a steer from how to avoid humiliation, but also how to play to some of President Trump's sensibilities and some of his needing to be massaged a time or two.

是以，很多人都會從如何避免羞辱，以及如何迎合特朗普總統的某些敏感點和他需要被按摩一兩下的需求中得到啟發。

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