Name: 我感覺自己像個傻瓜吉姆-克萊默說他在關稅問題上相信特朗普是錯的 (‘I feel like a sucker’: Jim Cramer says he was wrong to have believed Trump on tariffs)
Uploaded: 2025-04-04T04:08:09.000Z
Duration: 8 min 46 s

Breaking news, Vice President J.D. Vance just saying the Trump administration is, quote, feeling good about Trump's tariffs.

最新消息，副總統萬斯（J.D. Vance）剛剛表示，特朗普政府對特朗普的關稅政策感覺良好。

現在進行式

We're feeling good. Look, I frankly thought in some ways it could be worse in the markets because this is a big transition.

我們感覺很好。聽著，我坦率地認為，在某些方面，市場情況可能會更糟，因為這是一個重大的過渡。

過去簡單式

You saw the president said earlier today it's like a patient who was very sick.

你看到總統今天早些時候說，這就像一個病入膏肓的病人。

We did the operation and now it's time to make the patient better. And that's exactly what we're doing.

我們做了手術，現在該讓病人好起來了。這正是我們正在做的。

All right, this is Jim Cramer from CNBC's Mad Money, who has never been a free trader, right?

好了，我是CNBC "瘋狂的錢 "節目的吉姆-克萊默，他從來都不是自由交易者，對吧？

So he's not just out here to go against them. He's saying the White House doesn't seem to understand what it's trying to do and that the reciprocal tariffs are not reciprocal and could do tremendous damage.

所以，他不只是在這裡反對他們。他說，白宮似乎並不明白自己想要做什麼，對等關稅不是對等的，可能會造成巨大損失。

So out front now, Jim Cramer of CNBC's Mad Money and Squawk on the street, all on CNBC.

現在出場的是CNBC《瘋狂的金錢》和《街頭喧譁》的吉姆-克萊默，所有節目都在CNBC播出。

That incredible network that I will love to the day I die.

這個令人難以置信的網絡讓我至死不渝。

I'm so thrilled that we're able to talk. OK, so what the heck is going on?

我很高興我們能談談。好吧，到底發生了什麼事？

Well, I'm let down because I yes, I'm not a free trader.

好吧，我失望了，因為我是的，我不是一個自由交易者。

I'm a fair trader. Always have been from the days when I when you work with me at CNBC.

我是一個公平的交易者。從你和我一起在 CNBC 工作的時候起，我就一直是。

And what I was hoping was that a coordinated thing where if you are charging us 20 percent, we charge you 20 instead of a car where we're only making you pay two and a half and you're not letting us in.

我希望的是，如果你向我們收取 20%的費用，我們就向你收取 20%，而不是我們只讓你付兩成半，你卻不讓我們進去。

We try to get things better, but it's on a specific thing.

我們努力把事情做得更好，但都是在做一件具體的事情。

You go if they're 10 on a car, you go 10 on a car.

如果他們 10 塊錢一輛車，你就 10 塊錢一輛車。

But I went deep on the numbers today and the numbers did not make any sense.

但我今天深入研究了這些數字，這些數字沒有任何意義。

And I was actually you did you make it. I was doing like bananas in Vietnam.

實際上，我是你做的。我在越南做的就像香蕉一樣

你說了，Cramerica。我剛才說了什麼？

You know, it's one of these things where if I'm doing 100 billion and I'm I'm let you're letting me do 10 billion and I'm letting you do 100 billion.

你知道，如果我做 1,000 億，你讓我做 100 億，我讓你做 1,000 億，這就是其中的一種情況。

There was a way to be able to make it work with the numbers that they did.

有一種方法可以讓他們所做的數字發揮作用。

And they had this ridiculous I mean, I was that was the chart that they had with the with the mathematical equation.

他們有一個荒謬的數學方程式圖表。

I mean, are you kidding me? How about just like like an Einstein?

我是說，你在開玩笑嗎？像愛因斯坦那樣怎麼樣？

I know. How about the fact that it was just wrong?

And what bothered me was that they really did over and over again.

而讓我感到困擾的是，他們真的一次又一次地這樣做了。

The president said, listen, it's going to be reciprocal. So you do it.

總統說，聽著，這將是對等的。那你就做吧

We do it. And that was going to be so good.

And I really believed in it. And I feel like a sucker tonight because I am not a free trader and I do not believe in free trade.

我真的相信這一點。今晚我覺得自己像個傻瓜，因為我不是自由貿易者，也不相信自由貿易。

And I was just as tough, if not tougher than his people.

我和他的人一樣堅強，甚至比他的人更堅強。

But they screwed it up and they really made they did it a totally ill-advised way.

但他們搞砸了，他們真的做了一個完全不明智的方式。

And I was very let down as someone who really, truly believes the free trade is awful for the American working person.

作為一個真正相信自由貿易對美國勞動人民非常不利的人，我感到非常失望。

This is what they came up with. Jeez, come on, have some gumption, have some math.

這就是他們得出的結果。哎呀，來吧，有點勇氣，有點數學。

I mean, so how in the world do they do that after all of this?

我是說，在這一切發生之後，他們到底是怎麼做到的？

No, Jerome, they assured us over and over again that they were going to do the thing that would make it so that the tariffs would come down and the countries would would that were bad actors would change their their ways.

不，傑羅姆，他們一次又一次地向我們保證，他們要做的事情就是讓關稅下降，讓那些做壞事的國家改邪歸正。

And then so then Israel decides to get rid of tariff.

Vietnam decides to cut their tariff and they still got the highest tariff.

越南決定削減關稅，但他們的關稅仍然是最高的。

It was it was such a shame because they missed the opportunity and now they have to pay the price.

這太可惜了，因為他們錯過了機會，現在必須付出代價。

And it's funny, too, because none of this stock market, none of this had to happen.

這也很有趣，因為這一切都不是股市造成的，也不是必鬚髮生的。

And I feel bad because a lot of people lose money when this happens.

我感到很難過，因為這種情況發生時，很多人都會損失錢財。

I hope people just be calm, be constructive.

我希望大家保持冷靜，要有建設性。

But the way that they handled it was so bushy that I was surprised.

但他們的處理方式卻讓我大吃一驚。

President Trump has people who around him know these things.

特朗普總統身邊的人都知道這些事情。

So why when you hear optimal Scott Besson, he is a smart guy.

是以，當你聽到最優斯科特-貝松時，你會發現他是個聰明人。

He's very smart. He is a smart, thoughtful, respected person.

他非常聰明。他是一個聰明、有思想、受人尊敬的人。

Well, I think when you put people like that, they know he knows.

嗯，我想當你把人放到那樣的地方時，他們就知道他知道了。

Yeah, I tried to think like that because Peter Navarro is someone I've known for three for five decades.

是的，我試著這樣想，因為彼得-納瓦羅是我認識了三五十年的人。

And I was hoping that Peter might talk with a lot, really understood because he understood he taught me these things.

我希望彼得能和我談很多，真正理解我，因為他理解他教我的這些東西。

And I know he knows what reciprocal tariff really is.

我知道他知道什麼是真正的互惠關稅。

And that was that was a shame because there was such a great opportunity to course correct and make it.

這實在是太可惜了，因為本來有這麼好的機會來糾正航向並取得成功。

So all these people who have taken advantage of our country repeatedly and wiped out all the jobs in small towns, wiped out my father's job.

是以，這些人一再利用我們的國家，毀掉了小城鎮的所有工作，毀掉了我父親的工作。

This is one of the reasons why I've always been always felt like this.

這也是我一直有這種感覺的原因之一。

It's ridiculous how badly we've been taken advantage of.

我們被利用得如此之慘，真是可笑。

And I thought they were going to do something.

And what they do, they created the damn stock market and gave us nothing.

他們創造了該死的股票市場，卻什麼也沒給我們。

Well, I just want to emphasize again, I think it's so important to emphasize where you're coming from, because there are some who will come out and say, well, you know, free trade, free trade.

我只想再次強調，我認為強調你的出發點非常重要，因為有些人會站出來說，好吧，你知道，自由貿易，自由貿易。

你知道的，拉里-庫德洛，你的老朋友。

Right. Was was about free trade. And they'll make the economic argument for it.

沒錯。是關於自由貿易的。他們會為此提出經濟論據。

And you're not actually coming from that.

而實際上，你並不是這樣想的。

But you're not you're not ideologically opposed to the concept of what they were trying to do.

但你並不是在意識形態上反對他們所要做的事情。

They decided to get rid of the American working persons.

Good job with a good pension and sacrifices so we could get cheap goods.

好工作、好養老金、好犧牲，這樣我們才能買到便宜貨。

And it never they never thought for a minute the Republicans or Democrats.

他們從未想過共和黨或民主黨。

What would happen to those towns and those people? And they were left behind.

這些城鎮和人民會怎麼樣？他們被拋在後面。

A president comes along that's going to do something about it.

You know, you know, part of the reason and you and I are friends for a long, long time.

你知道，你知道，你和我是很久很久的朋友，這也是原因之一。

But many people know our relationship for this one moment.

但是，很多人知道我們的關係就是這一刻。

Decades of just of my so fortunate to be friends with you and your family.

幾十年來，我很幸運能與您和您的家人成為朋友。

If anyone hasn't seen it, I'm going to play it.

如果有人沒看過，我就放給大家看。

I'm going to play it because we're in a moment right now.

我要播放這首歌，因為我們現在正處在一個時刻。

I don't know if you heard Peter Tuckman describe it.

我不知道你是否聽過彼得-塔克曼的描述。

That it was a feeling like in covid of just feeling a darkness and a fear.

那是一種感覺，就像在科維德感受到的黑暗和恐懼。

And on that floor that people hadn't felt.

而在那一層，人們還沒有感受到。

It makes you feel sick. And there was another moment he mentioned.

這讓你感到噁心。他還提到了另一個時刻。

And that moment was that horrible crash when nobody thought they could even get money out of an ATM.

那一刻就是可怕的崩盤，沒有人認為他們能從自動取款機上取到錢。

And you said it like it was at that time.

I have talked to the heads of almost every single one of these firms in the last 72 hours.

在過去的 72 小時裡，我幾乎與所有這些公司的負責人都談過話。

And he has no idea what it's like out there.

他根本不知道外面是什麼樣子。

And Bill Poole has no idea what it's like out there.

比爾-普爾根本不知道外面是什麼樣子。

My people have been in this game for 25 years.

我的人已經在這個遊戲裡摸爬滾打了 25 年。

And these firms are going to go out of business.