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  • To be honest,

    老實說

  • I know what we're doing now is like looking into it.

    我知道我們現在像是在回顧,分析這首歌

  • But none of us thought that much into it.

    但是我們當初都沒有想這麼多

  • I didn't make this song to be mine to sing.

    我寫這首歌時不是要寫給自己唱的

  • He'd already said everything he wanted to say for that moment on his record.

    他當時已經把他想說的都寫進專輯裡了

  • We went in there just to write a song.

    我們只是想要寫歌而已

  • If we were into the session writing a song for Ed Sheeran,

    如果我們當時是要寫歌給艾德的話

  • I don't think we would ever have recorded shape of you.

    我不覺得我們有可能會錄下 Shape of You 這首歌

  • Most-streamed track ever on Spotify

    Spotify 史上最多播放次數

  • Most weeks ever in The Billboard Top 10

    維持告示牌前十名最久紀錄

  • 2,893,178,486 views on YouTube

    YouTube 上 2,893,178,486 觀看人次

  • It was the first day I've ever been in with Steve.

    這是我第一天跟 Steve 一起合作

  • The first, literally the first thing he did,

    他做的第一件事就是

  • was he walked over to the keyboard and played.

    他走向電子琴,然後彈

  • And then I was kinda like "Well, we have this."

    我當時想「好啊,我們有這個了。」

  • That's a good start.

    是個好的開始

  • The log drum that we use, it was the first sound that I found.

    我們用的木鼓是我第一個找到的音效

  • It just felt like a world sound.

    聽起來很有大自然的感覺

  • Ed started doing that thing on the guitar that he does.

    艾德開始用吉他玩他那一招

  • And then like a...

    再加上這個

  • I honestly believe it's cause Ed is so impatient

    我真的認為,這是因為艾德很沒耐性

  • that he can't wait for me to get a drum sound up.

    他等不及我設定好鼓的音效

  • So he goes out, and he says, "Look, I'll just do it on the guitar."

    所以他出去了一下,說「直接用吉他就好了。」

  • So he was doing that in the studio and Steve said,

    他在錄音室刷吉他,然後 Steve 說

  • "Can we get that on the loop?"

    「可以把這段循環播放嗎?」

  • Straight away, he says, "Give me a clean track."

    他馬上說「給我錄一個新音軌。」

  • And he just starts layering over the top.

    然後他就開始疊音樂上去

  • This is fifteen minutes into meeting, and we're away, we're off.

    會議才開始十五分鐘,我們就頗有進展

  • The easiest thing with this key would be to go with it.

    配合這個音調最簡單的方法就是跟著它走

  • Like, of the rhythm.

    節奏上跟著走

  • Ed goes completely against that.

    艾德完全不走這套

  • He's almost the percussion with it.

    他的聲音幾乎就是打擊樂了

  • And that keeps the pace up.

    這讓音樂能保持節奏

  • I'm always a fan of keeping it more stripped,

    我一直都喜歡保持簡單

  • 'cause I'm an acoustic artist first and foremost.

    因為我主要是個不插電歌手

  • And when I play live, I can't replicate all these things.

    當我現場演奏時,我無法重現這些效果

  • I haven't got any other musicians.

    而且我也沒有其他的樂手

  • So you don't need anything else, because that's the percussion.

    所以你其他東西都不需要,因為那就是打擊樂

  • Ed is the instrument.

    艾德就是樂器

  • Johnny's like my main guy that I work with.

    Johnny 是我主要合作的對象

  • Me and him together on our own have probably written two, three hundred songs.

    我跟他一起寫了大概兩、三百首歌

  • His attention span could be very low.

    他的專注時間有時候相當短

  • One of the things I did to try and keep him in the room while I would be working on a track,

    當我在處理那些音樂時,為了要讓他專注

  • I would have like a suitcase full of lego and pull it to the hotel room.

    我會把行李箱裝滿樂高,然後帶進飯店房間

  • And say, "There you go, you build that."

    說「來,去蓋房子囉!」

  • And it was great, 'cause he would sit and build the lego,

    這很棒,因為他會坐著拼樂高

  • and can get lost in that world for a second,

    短暫地陷入樂高的世界

  • and come up with this moment that was everything.

    然後突然靈光一閃,想出絕妙的點子

  • As we were writing it, I kind of knew I wanted it to be like a really sort of R&B type feel.

    我們在寫歌的時候,我就知道我想要這首歌有 R&B 的感覺

  • And I was like, "Wouldn't it be cool if like, we put like an interpolation of "No Scrubs" in it?"

    我想,如果能加入一小段 No Scrubs 的旋律應該超酷的吧?

  • So the bit that went "Girl, you know I want your love,"

    所以 "Girl, you know I want your love." 那一段

  • originally went "Girl, you know I want your love."

    原本是 "Girl, you know I want your love."

  • There were some moments that I found on the Shape of You tapes which were really interesting.

    我在 Shape of You 的音檔中有找到一些有趣的片段

  • Ahh be my baby um ah.

    啊,當我的寶貝

  • Ahh be my baby um ah.

    啊,當我的寶貝

  • Ahh be my baby.

    啊,當我的寶貝

  • Come on, yeah!

    來吧,就是這個!

  • Come on be my baby um ah.

    來吧,當我的寶貝

  • Come on be my baby um ah.

    來吧,當我的寶貝

  • So that's a perfect example of how Ed starts off as a...

    這個例子完美呈現艾德從開始唱 ...

  • Just to shoot ... a noise.

    只是發出 ... 只是些聲音

  • And then you hear that moment where he discovers it should be "come on,"

    然後你可以聽到他突然發現應該要說「來吧」的時刻

  • He's inviting this person in.

    他在邀請這個人

  • He has in his mind this is how I want a song to sound.

    他心裡已經有這首歌的樣子

  • This is what I want to talk about.

    這是我想要唱的東西

  • Originally, I think we were talking about maybe being

    一開始,我們在說歌詞應該是

  • "and my T-shirt smells like you".

    「我的 T 恤有你的味道。」

  • And, he was like, "no no, it's gotta be my bed sheets."

    然後他說「不不不,一定要是床單。」

  • It's "bedsheets smell of you", and I remember thinking,

    是「床單有你的味道」,我記得我當時想

  • "Oh god no, not bedsheets."

    「喔老天,不要說床單。」

  • On the original version, it doesn't actually say "I'm in love with the shape of you."

    原本的版本裡,歌詞其實不是「我愛上了你的身影。」

  • It only says that at the beginning bit.

    這段只有在開頭出現過

  • See, like a weird thing in there, that's pretty odd.

    你聽,有段奇怪的音效,蠻怪的

  • "I'm in love with your body" on its own, felt objectifying to me.

    「我愛上了你的身體。」單這句話聽起來,對我來說有物化的感覺

  • Yeah, he's got a really warm heart.

    對啊,他是個暖男

  • Do you like, do you not like "I'm in love with your body?"

    你喜歡,你不喜歡「我愛上了你的身體。」嗎?

  • I do, it's just ... it's ...

    我喜歡,只是 ...

  • "I'm in love with your body."

    「我愛上了你的身體。」

  • I mean, I'll say, I'm always like

    我是說,我會說,我一直都覺得

  • if we could just push it, so it's one more thing.

    如果我們可以更延伸,讓它有更深的意涵

  • Where I come from, there is this phrase.

    我的故鄉有這麼一個說法

  • They say look at the shape of you, and that means,

    他們會說「看看你的形狀」,這表示

  • look at the way you've showed it up.

    看看你怎麼呈現你自己

  • So in love with the shape of you.

    完全愛上你的身影了

  • It's true.

    是真的

  • It is more than.

    這不只是

  • I'm in love with

    我愛上了

  • You're not just a body.

    你不只是你的身體

  • It is more than your body.

    這不只是你的身體

  • You are more than your body.

    你不只是你的身體

  • Yeah, um.

    嗯,是的

  • I'm in love with the shape of you.

    我愛上了你的身影

  • I'm in love with the way you move.

    我愛上了你舞動的方式

  • But it's not just the shape of you.

    但這不只是你的身影而已

  • This song is just one loop the whole way through.

    這首歌整首就是一直循環

  • It's a very monotonous thing, so when you got that for the whole song,

    這是個很重複單一的歌,所以如果你整首都這樣

  • the only thing you can do are light and shade bits.

    你唯一能做的就是增加或是拿掉音樂元素

  • So once you've heard the first ten seconds,

    一旦你聽了前十秒

  • there's no more learning to be done when it comes to the hook.

    這首歌的記憶點就大概這樣了

  • Then everything else is a surprise.

    剩下的部分都是驚喜

  • It's so minimal, that every time something new does comes in, you hear it.

    這首歌非常極簡,所以每當有新的東西加進來的時候,你都聽得到

  • Layered up some more vocals, some of these guitars.

    把人聲也疊上去,再加點吉他

  • One of the things that we added was the mellotron.

    我們加入的其中一樣樂器是電子琴

  • And it just added a little color to it for me.

    對我來說,這為歌曲增添了一點色彩

  • Just a little bass drum.

    加一點大鼓

  • Just to give it some weight.

    讓它聽起來有份量點

  • We've got a little sixteen clap going.

    有一點十六分節奏的拍手聲

  • Then we added a little rim.

    然後我們加了一點的鼓邊的聲音

  • That's kind of the only thing that starts slightly of the beat.

    這是唯一稍為不在拍點上的東西

  • So it feels like it's moving all the time, you're not getting bored.

    所以聽起來是隨時在流動的,你不會覺得無聊

  • Every time you start getting bored of it,

    每當你開始覺得無聊時

  • something new comes in

    就有新的元素加入

  • or something drops out.

    或是有聲音被拿掉

  • It kind of builds and builds and builds and then drops,

    有點像一直疊加,疊加,疊加,然後降落

  • and then builds and builds and build and then drops.

    然後又一直疊加,疊加,疊加,然後降落

  • At the end, it has a moment which I quite like.

    最後,有一個我蠻喜歡的部分

  • You don't really notice it happening, but it's happening underneath.

    你不太會感受到它正在進行,但在背後的確是有發生

  • And you just get this feeling of tension, release, tension, release.

    你就會感受到張力,放鬆,張力,放鬆

  • We've moved on to another song.

    我們開始寫下一首歌

  • We've actually got a cut with Faith Hill and Tim McGraw that we write the same day.

    其實我們同一天還做了要給費絲·希爾和提姆·麥克羅的片段

  • And then we did another one after that.

    在那之後又寫了一首歌

  • We write a bunch that day.

    我們那天寫了一堆歌

  • Oh, the Liam Payne one as well.

    喔,還有連恩·佩恩那首也是

  • And that was when at the end of the third song, he said,

    然後就在第三首歌結束後,他說

  • "Go back, and can you play me the first tune again."

    「你可以再播一次第一首歌嗎?」

  • We thought it might be a duet.

    我們本來想會是個對唱

  • and the duet would be that the girl sings one verse and the guy sings another verse.

    會是女生唱一段主歌,然後男生唱另一段主歌的對唱

  • When I was like, "This sounds like, Rudimental should do it with Rihanna.".

    我當時想,「這聽起來該是根基樂團跟蕾哈娜唱的。」

  • He said, "I don't think this is for me."

    他說:「我不覺得這是我的歌。」

  • I was off to this studio where my record label head was.

    我前往我唱片公司老闆在的錄音室

  • I played it, and he was just kind of looking at me like,

    我播了這首歌,然後他就盯著我說

  • "Why you wanna give this away?"

    「你怎麼會想要把這首歌送人?」

  • I don't really know what it means to choose a hit.

    我不太知道挑選一首主打歌是什麼意思

  • I just like writing songs.

    我只是喜歡寫歌

  • It's not rocket science.

    這並不是什麼高深的科學

  • It's much much more complicated.

    這比那還要複雜得多了

  • Kind of the best hour and a half in my life.

    可能是我生命中最棒的一個半小時

  • To follow a trend is a common thing in pop,

    流行音樂中,跟隨潮流是個常見的事

  • and it's something that I've always try to not do.

    也是我一直避免的一件事

  • But I was wrong this time, man.

    但這次我錯了,老兄

  • It's one of the biggest songs in my career.

    這是我事業中最成功的一首歌

  • Cool.

    很棒

To be honest,

老實說

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