Name: TED】編舞家的實時創作過程｜Wayne McGregor｜TED Talks (【TED】A Choreographer's Creative Process in Real Time | Wayne McGregor | TED Talks)
Uploaded: 2021-01-14T06:55:28.000Z
Duration: 15 min 19 s

Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast

如你所想的，我對舞蹈很有熱情。

As you might imagine, I'm absolutely passionate

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about dance. I'm passionate about making it,

about watching it, about encouraging others

and I'm also really passionate about creativity.

對我來說，創造力是至關重要的。

Creativity for me is something that's absolutely critical,

and I think it's something that you can teach.

我認為創造力技巧是可以傳授、分享的。

I think the technicities of creativity can be taught

我認為你可以找到專屬自己的身體符號、

and shared, and I think you can find out things

about your own personal physical signature,

並以此為出發點，好好地「胡鬧」一番。

your own cognitive habits, and use that as

a point of departure to misbehave beautifully.

當時約翰屈伏塔可是個大人物， 像是《火爆浪子》、《週六夜瘋狂》。

I was born in the 1970s, and John Travolta was big

他提供了很棒的男性榜樣，讓我開始跳舞。

in those days: "Grease," "Saturday Night Fever,"

and he provided a fantastic kind of male role model for me

他們全力地鼓勵我出發去冒險、

to start dancing. My parents were very up for me going.

They absolutely encouraged me to take risks, to go,

過去我有個機會在當地的舞蹈教室上課，

to try, to try. I had an opportunity, an access

to a local dance studio, and I had an enlightened teacher

who allowed me to make up my own and invent

my own dances, so what she did was let me make up

my own ballroom and Latin American dances to teach

And that was the very first time that I found an opportunity

感受到我可以表達自己的心聲。

to feel that I was able to express my own voice,

這激勵了我日後成為一位編舞者。

and that's what's fueled me, then, to become a choreographer.

我覺得我有東西要說，有東西要分享。

I feel like I've got something to say and something to share.

And I guess what's interesting is, is that I am now obsessed

現在我對肢體的技巧非常著迷。

我認為這是我們最擅長的溝通傳達技巧。

I think it's the most technologically literate thing that we have,

and I'm absolutely obsessed with finding a way

尋找一種透過肢體 向觀眾表達理念的方式，

of communicating ideas through the body to audiences

help them think differently about things.

所以對我來說， 編舞是一種物理性思考。

So for me, choreography is very much a process

of physical thinking. It's very much in mind,

也存在於身體，是一種合作式的過程。

as well as in body, and it's a collaborative process.

It's something that I have to do with other people.

某種程度上說，是種分散的認知過程。

You know, it's a distributed cognitive process in a way.

我常和設計師和視覺藝術家一起工作，

I work often with designers and visual artists,

當然還有舞者和其他的編舞家，

obviously dancers and other choreographers,

但現在，我有更多的機會是和經濟學家、

but also, more and more, with economists,

人類學家、神經學家，認知科學家

anthropologists, neuroscientists, cognitive scientists,

和許多來自不同領域的專家一起合作。

people really who come from very different domains of

expertise, where they bring their intelligence to bear

而今天我們要做的是稍稍探索一下

What I thought we would do today a little bit is

and we're all experts in physical thinking.

我們都知道身體在現實世界是怎樣的，

And we all know what that body is like in the real world,

so one of the aspects of physical thinking

that we think about a lot is this notion of proprioception,

就是自己的身體在真實空間中的感覺。

the sense of my own body in the space in the real world.

So, we all understand what it feels like to know

你絕對知道你什麼時候要拿杯子、

You absolutely know that when you're going to grab a cup,

或要把移動了的杯子重新擺好。

or that cup moves and you have to renavigate it.

我們早已是物理性思維的專家，

So we're experts in physical thinking already.

我們只是不常意識到我們的身體。

We just don't think about our bodies very much.

我們只有在身體出問題時才想到，

We only think about them when they go wrong, so, when

比如手骨折或是心臟病發的時候，

there's a broken arm, or when you have a heart attack,

then you become really very aware of your bodies.

But how is it that we can start to think about using

choreographic thinking, kinesthetic intelligence, to arm

the ways in which we think about things more generally?

我接下要做的是一場 TED 首演。

What I thought I'd do is, I'd make a TED premiere.

I'm not sure if this is going to be good or not.

I thought what I'd do is, I'd use three versions

用三種物理性思維模式來做些事情。

向您介紹，這是保歐羅，這是卡特琳娜。

I want to introduce you. This is Paolo. This is Catarina.

他們完全不知道接下來要做什麼。

They have no idea what we're going to do.

So this is not the type of choreography where

I already have in mind what I'm going to make,

這些所謂的「白紙」只要學習就好，

and these so-called empty vessels are just going to learn it.

That's not the methodology at all that we work with.

But what's important about it is how it is that they're

grasping information, how they're taking information,

how they're using it, and how they're thinking with it.

I'm going to start really, really simply.

通常舞蹈需要一個或多個刺激元素。

Usually, dance has a stimulus or stimuli, and I thought

我要用簡單的東西， 這個 TED 標誌，我們都能看到它，

I'd take something simple, TED logo, we can all see it,

很容易利用，而我要做的也很簡單。

it's quite easy to work with, and I'm going to do something

我們先從某軀體來獲得一個想法，

very simply, where you take one idea from a body,

這身體剛好是我的身體，然後把那個想法

and it happens to be my body, and translate that

這是一種直接轉移、是能量的轉換。

so it's a direct transfer, transformation of energy.

我將如此想像，如果您願意也可以照著做。

And I'm going to imagine this, you can do this too if you like,

that I'm going to just take the letter "T" and I'm going

先在心中想像它， 然後把它往外置於現實世界，

to imagine it in mind, and I'm going to place that outside in

所以我絕對有看到一個字母"T"在我前面。

the real world. So I absolutely see a letter "T" in front of me.

當我看到它，我能繞著它走，對吧？

I can absolutely walk around it when I see it, yeah?

它有某種語法，我知道如何使用它，

It has a kind of a grammar. I know what I'm going to do

所以我可以開始描述它， 我可以簡單描述它，

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