Name: 川普失控伊朗戰局？專家 panel 揭密！ (Panel: Is Trump losing control of the Iran war?)
Uploaded: 2026-03-20T16:45:14.000Z
Duration: 10 min 20 s

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One is whether it's credible that the United States would just simply not know that Israel was going to do something like that.

第一件事是，美國真的會不知道以色列要做那樣的事嗎？這點可信嗎？

And then the second thing is Netanyahu saying, we acted alone.

然後第二件事是，內塔尼亞胡說，我們是單獨行動的。

Not sure anybody is disagreeing or disputing that part of it.

我不確定有沒有人在質疑或反駁這部分。

I think the question is not whether they acted alone, but

我覺得問題不在於他們有沒有單獨行動，而是

whether they did so without any knowledge from the United States.

他們在行動時，美國到底知不知道。

Yeah, I mean, look, there's a difference between the military's coordinating and President Trump personally approving a strike.

對啊，我的意思是，你看，軍方協調跟川普總統親自準許攻擊，這是有差別的。

說真的，我也不知道發生了什麼事。

I think I do know that the Israeli and the US Military absolutely knew about this strike, but

我覺得，我知道以色列和美國軍方絕對知道這次攻擊，但是

I, but I don't know whether it moved up the chain or not.

我，但我不知道這有沒有往上呈報。

Sorry to interrupt you, but I think that's extraordinary.

抱歉打斷你，但我覺得這很不尋常。

如果是真的，那可能就是真的。

But if there is military coordination on something as serious as a Ellen, a gas field attack, that that would not make it up to the President.

但如果像這種嚴重的攻擊，像是對氣油田的攻擊，有軍方協調，那不可能沒呈報給總統。

I don't know if you've ever been around in the Oval Office and how busy the President is and the prime Minister's coming in.

我不知道你是否曾在橢圓辦公室待過，總統有多忙，總理還要進來。

I've been in the middle where, you know, the DNI has been accused of not.

我曾經在中間，你知道，DNI 被指控沒有。

嗯，他很忙，而且沒人告訴他。

Maybe it's possible, but I think that's not even the point.

也許有可能，但我認為這不是重點。

The point is, is that it, Israel did this on purpose, they did this in order to escalate or they're really, really dumb about what Iran is capable of doing and what they think because it is so obvious after the Karg hit and the escalation that this was going to happen.

重點是，以色列是故意這樣做的，他們這樣做是為了升級，或者他們對伊朗的能力以及他們的想法真的、真的太天真了，因為在卡格事件和升級之後，這件事的發生是顯而易見的。

I think it actually is very important whether or not the United States was given a heads up on a huge escalation by the Israelis that's attacking Iranian oil infrastructure, which resulted in retaliatory attacks on Gulf infrastructure, which is tanking the world economy and affecting the pocketbooks of every American citizen.

我認為，美國有沒有事先被告知以色列人對伊朗的石油基礎設施發動了重大升級行動，這其實非常重要，因為這導致了對海灣基礎設施的報復性攻擊，這正在讓世界經濟崩潰，並影響到每個美國公民的荷包。

And it's pretty clear that the White House put out opposite signals earlier.

而且很明顯，白宮稍早發出了相反的信號。

They said they were pointing out to reporters that they were briefed and it was part of a means to pressure the Iranians to open the Strait of Hormuz.

他們告訴記者，他們已經聽取了簡報，這是向伊朗施壓以開放荷姆茲海峽的一種方式。

The Iranians escalated and then later Trump said that he didn't know and then the Israelis leaked that they.

伊朗人升級了，之後川普說他不知道，然後以色列人洩漏說他們知道。

So, yeah, I think it's worth figuring it out.

所以，是的，我覺得這值得好好研究一下。

But it just goes to show you, as President Trump has said, as Tulsi Gabriel testified today, US And Israel are on different pages.

但這就顯示了，正如川普總統說的，正如 Tulsi Gabriel 今天作證的，美國和以色列的立場不同。

They're operating, I think, from different objectives.

他們的行動，我覺得，是基於不同的目標。

They have different estimations of how long the war should last.

他們對戰爭應該持續多久有不同的估計。

I think to piggyback a little bit on your point, it highlights one of the greater problems people have.

我覺得，呼應你剛剛說的，這凸顯了大家的一個大問題。

Because even if Democrats should say that Iran's naval capacity has been decimated, one of the largest sponsors of terror has been depleted, their ballistic missiles have been depleted, I mean, all of those things can be successes.

因為即使民主黨人說伊朗的海軍能力已經被摧毀了，最大的恐怖主義資助者之一已經被削弱，他們的彈道飛彈也被削弱了，我的意思是，所有這些都可以是成功的。

As you're talking about what the military objectives are, what we still don't know is what the cost is, what the human cost is going to be.

就像你說的，軍事目標是什麼，但我們還不知道的是代價是什麼，會付出什麼樣的人力代價。

We don't know what the cost to everyday Americans is going to be.

我們不知道對美國普通民眾會付出什麼樣的代價。

We don't know if we're going to have to put boots on the ground and all of us around the table, if we're intellectually honest.

我們不知道我們是否需要派兵，而且如果我們在座的各位都誠實面對的話。

We know that if one of our objectives is to go in and make sure that they don't have the ability to have a nuclear program, we're going to have to put boots on the ground to achieve that.

我們知道，如果我們的目標之一是進去確保他們沒有發展核武的能力，我們就必須派兵去達成這個目標。

So I think that what, what we want and what most people want and what most average everyday Americans want is while it's taking us more dollars at the tank to fill up our gas tanks every single day just to do our nominal task, we want to have clarity, we want transparency, and

所以我認為，我們想要的，以及大多數人想要的，還有大多數美國普通民眾想要的，就是在每天加滿油箱的錢越來越多的時候，我們只是為了完成日常任務，我們想要清晰，我們想要透明，而且

Like even if you were to say, which I said at the beginning of this statement about the successes of some of the military objectives, true.

就像，即使你說，就像我在聲明開頭說的，關於一些軍事目標的成功，沒錯。

We thought at the beginning of this, we'd be out of this by now.

我們一開始以為，現在就已經結束了。

And no one's been able to articulate that at all.

So one of the parts of this that kind of merges what you're, what you're both saying on this, either side of the table, if we are not the ones driving the tempo and the escalation of this war, and

所以，這其中一部分，有點像是你們兩邊在說的，如果在座的各位，如果我們不是推動這場戰爭的節奏和升級的一方，而且

This, this is a question that was posed to the secretary of Defense today.

這是一個今天問國防部長的問題。

Why are we helping Israel prosecute this war if they're going to pursue their own objectives?

如果以色列要追求自己的目標，為什麼我們要幫以色列打這場戰爭？

What is the answer to the question, are we controlling the tempo or is Israel controlling the tempo?

這個問題的答案是什麼，是我們在控制節奏，還是以色列在控制節奏？

Well, look, the president said today we're coordinating, we're allies here, but

好啦，你看，總統今天說我們在協調，我們是盟友，但是

it's perfectly reasonable to believe that we do have different objectives here.

我們有不同的目標，這完全是可以理解的。

Our objectives, I don't think, have really changed.

我認為我們的目標其實沒有變。

我們不希望他們輸出恐怖主義。

We don't want them to have nuclear missiles.

我們不希望他們擁有核子飛彈。

We've taken out the navy, and these are our objectives.

我們已經摧毀了海軍，這些是我們的目標。

Israel has to live with this in the neighborhood.

以色列必須在這個區域生存下去。

And Israel, of course, for them, this is the finishing off of what was done to them on October 7, which will never happen again.

以色列當然，對他們來說，這是對10月7日發生的事情的了結，這種事絕對不會再發生了。

Reasonable for us to have different questions.

我們有不同的問題，這是合理的。

Is the answer to the question that Israel does what it wants and we just have to live with it?

答案是不是以色列隨心所欲，我們只能接受？

Because that's the, that's the question the world is asking themselves.

因為這正是全世界都在問自己的問題。

If Israel decides to continue moving up the escalation ladder, attacking energy retaliatory attacks, that that's not just Israel's problem anymore.

如果以色列決定繼續升級，發動報復性的能源攻擊，那就不只是以色列的問題了。

That's the whole world's problem suddenly.

那突然間就變成全世界的問題。

Well, look, it sounded to me today like President Trump was not happy about this strike, and

嗯，聽起來今天川普總統似乎不太高興這次攻擊，

it sounded like Prime Minister Netanyahu got the message.

而且聽起來內塔尼亞胡總理也收到訊息了。

So, look, my anticipation is, is that we're heavily influential to them.

所以，我的預期是，我們對他們有很大的影響力。

我們不主導他們，他們也不主導我們。

我們是盟友，但他們不控制我們。

And I don't know that we necessarily control.

我也不知道我們是否一定能控制。

So in theory, we should be able to have the more than a 50% say in whether American blood and treasure is spent to perpetuate this war for months and months.

所以理論上，我們應該有超過一半的決定權，決定美國的血汗是否要花費數月數月來延續這場戰爭。

And it's pretty clear from what President Trump said today that the war he wants to get out very soon.

而從川普總統今天說的話可以很清楚地知道，他希望盡快結束這場戰爭。

And it's pretty clear from what Netanyahu said today that he doesn't want to get out very soon.

而從內塔尼亞胡總理今天說的話，也可以很清楚地知道，他並不希望很快就撤軍。

嗯，所以這兩個人不可能都贏。

One of them is going to be right and one of them is going to be wrong.

其中一個人會是對的，另一個人會是錯的。

So, so who's going to win that disagreement?

所以，所以誰會贏得這場爭執呢？

Is it going to be Trump and we're going to end the war soon, or is it going to be Bibi and the war is going to go on for a very long time.

是川普，然後我們會很快結束戰爭，還是會是畢比，然後戰爭會持續很長一段時間。

他們兩個人不可能都對，史考特。

And in the end, we're going to find out who really wears the pants in this bromance.

最後，我們會發現誰才是這段哥們情誼中真正說了算的人。

Well, look, the bottom line is, is that Israel cannot exist, will not exist, has said they won't exist any longer with an Iranian State that is funding terror proxies and committing the kind of atrocities against Israel that we saw on October 7.

嗯，看看，重點是，以色列不能存在，也不會存在，他們說過，如果伊朗資助恐怖代理人並像10月7日那樣對以色列犯下暴行，他們就不會再存在了。

They have wiped out the terror proxies for the most part.

他們已經在很大程度上清除了恐怖代理人。

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