Name: 「現在的痛苦，未來會讓你獲得回報！」- Mike Israetel (“It Will Pay Off Later” - Dr Mike Israetel)
Uploaded: 2026-02-24T10:51:14.000Z
Duration: 8 min 13 s

There's two things you can be doing with your time.

Stuff that you want to be doing right now, things you feel like doing, and

就是你現在想做的事，你覺得想做的事，還有

This sounds like elementary education, kindergarten type of shit, but

這聽起來像是小學教育，幼稚園等級的東西，但是

I got to tell you, Chris, there is a lot of stuff that us Internet guru people end up saying that sounds remarkably kindergarten.

我必須跟你說，Chris，很多我們這些 internet guru 說的話，聽起來都非常像幼稚園。

Like, because many of us, ourselves included me, you, all the other talking heads are coming to realize pretty regularly that focusing on very basic rudimentary understandings and eliminating mistakes from those understandings can build a foundation for real deep insight that in retrospect seems obvious as fuck, but

像是，因為我們很多人，包括我自己，你，還有其他那些愛講話的人，都越來越常意識到，專注在非常基礎的 rudimentary understandings，並且消除這些理解上的錯誤，可以為真正深刻的見解打下基礎，回想起來好像很明顯，但

And so I love doing things like splitting up every decision you could choose to make into just two things, and

所以我喜歡做的事情，像是把你可以做的每一個決定抽成兩類，然後

also, you, like, think through it a little bit more and we'll talk through it a little bit more, and

還有，你，像是，多想一下，我們也會多聊一下，然後

Well, that actually simplifies things considerably because one thing I really love and hate is when especially experts say things like, well, it's complicated.

嗯，這樣其實讓事情簡單多了，因為我非常喜歡，又很討厭的一件事就是，特別是專家說話的時候，像是，嗯，這很複雜。

Oh, I understand that, but you got a PhD in the shit, right?

喔，我懂，但你對這爛事有 PhD，對吧？

So why don't you tell me how it's complicated and nuanced?

那你為什麼不告訴我，它到底怎麼個複雜和細微法？

some of the times it's a deflection tactic to see everything's so.

有些時候這是一種推託的策略，因為看到所有事情都這麼。

And the first simplification we can make today is of all of the things you could be doing in this next very moment.

那我們今天第一個可以做的簡化，就是關於你下一秒鐘可以做的所有事情。

They fall into basically only two categories, shit that you feel like doing and shit you don't feel like doing.

它們基本上只會抽成兩類：你覺得想做的事，和你覺得不想做的事。

And then those categories can further be subdivided into just a few other categories to really simplify it.

然後這些類別還可以再細抽成幾個小類，來讓事情更簡單。

So if the shit you feel like doing, you can ask the question of, is it a good idea to do it?

所以，如果是你覺得想做的事，你可以問問自己，做這件事是個好主意嗎？

We just have, like, a few points of a checklist to fill out to see if it's yes or no.

我們就準備了幾個檢查點，來看看答案是肯定的還是否定的。

One thing is like, do I have anything pressing that I need to be doing right now?

其中一點是，我現在有沒有什麼急著要做的事情？

Does this thing that I want to do hurt me and my future self in any way?

我想做的事情會不會在任何方面傷害到我，還有我未來的自己？

So if it some, I don't mean to be Doing anything else.

所以如果我，我不是說要做別的事。

The thing I'm going to be doing doesn't hurt me in any way in the future, and

我要做的事情不會在任何方面傷害到我，還有我未來的自己，而且

我應該可以做這件事，沒問題。

Then if you look at the universe of things that you have to be doing, that, okay, I don't want to do this.

那如果你看看你必須做的事情的宇宙，然後，好，我不想做這件事。

The real question is, okay, is there a compelling reason that doing this thing you don't want to do improves future outcomes for future you?

真正的問題是，好，有沒有一個強烈的理由，讓你去做這件你不想做的事，能改善你未來的結果？

Like, gangsters ride up and they're like, hey, get in with us.

就像，一群流氓騎過來，他們會說，嘿，跟我們一起來。

We're going to go do a shooting or whatever.

Gangsters say like, well, gee whiz, that sounds dangerous and socially responsible.

流氓會說，嗯，天啊，聽起來很危險，而且很不負責任。

So you just say, no thanks, fellas, but hey, best of aim to you.

所以你只要說，謝謝不用了，各位，祝你們好運。

Because it's, you know, future you doesn't want to live in jail or shot to death.

因為你知道，未來的你可不想在牢裡度過，或是被槍殺。

But if the thing you don't want to do is a thing that substantially enhances your future outcomes, you might want to consider doing that thing even though you don't want to do that thing.

但如果那件你不想做的事，卻能大幅提升你未來的成果，那你可能就會考慮去做，即使你心裡不想。

Now, the ultimate situation here in this whole construct of motivation, inspiration, all that is setting up a better world for yourself in the future.

現在，在這裡，關於動機、靈感等等所有架構裡的終極目標，就是為未來的自己建立一個更好的世界。

Because, like, I live, I'm living pretty goddamn good right now, if I say so myself.

因為，就像，我現在活得，我必須說，我現在過得挺爽的。

And almost none of it has to do with shit I'm doing right now.

而這幾乎都跟我現在做的事情沒什麼關係。

有時候這會讓我的腦袋有點混亂。

I'll be sitting on Sunday and I'm high on edible marijuana, and

我可能會坐在禮拜天，嗑了點瑪莉ijuana，然後

I'm just scrolling through the tv and I Jew brain is like, you're a piece of shit.

我只是隨便轉著電視，我腦袋裡那個猶太人就會說，你真是個爛人。

You don't deserve any of these things that you have, like a house and a TV and time to scroll and even edible marijuana, which you paid for with your own money, I might add, you degenerate drug addict.

你根本不配擁有你現在擁有的一切，像是房子、電視、滑手機的時間，甚至是你自己花錢買的瑪莉ijuana，你這個墮落的毒蟲。

And then I'm like, how the hell do I have all this stuff is because I did shit earlier that didn't pay off at the time, it paid off later.

然後我就會想，我怎麼會有這些東西，是因為我過去做了一些當時沒回報，但後來才看到成果的事情。

So with that whole decision tree I just described, you can really easily choose if you're gonna just do shit you like right now or if you're gonna do some shit now that you're not a big fan of right now.

所以透過我剛才講的那個決策樹，你就可以很輕鬆地選擇是要做你現在喜歡的事，還是做一些你現在不太喜歡，但未來會很有用的事。

But future you is gonna be like, bro, he's gonna open up the fucking time portal.

但未來的你就會說，兄弟，他會打開那個時間傳送門。

He's gonna push a fist through that shit, and he's gonna be like, blast that shit, big homie.

他會把拳頭伸進去，然後說，幹得好，老兄。

And you're gonna do this because you Hooked up.

你會這樣做是因為你準備好了。

Future you, future you is your biggest ally, period.

未來的你，未來的你就是你最大的盟友，就這樣。

By the way, future you is going to exist soon and you're going to want to be a future you that you look back at as many points as possible in future you world to be like, damn, dude, old me set the shit up good.

對了，未來的你很快就會出現，而你會希望成為一個讓未來的你能在未來的世界裡，回頭看時，覺得「哇，老兄，以前的我把事情都安排得真好」的自己。

Gwinda Bogle says your future self is watching you through your memories.

Gwinda Bogle 說，你未來的自己正透過你的記憶看著你。

Whether it's with pride or regret depends on what you do now.

是帶著驕傲還是後悔，取決於你現在的作為。

Or in my case, with like a physical skeeved out like, ooh, I'm still with this guy.

或者像我一樣，會覺得有點生理上的噁心，像是「喔，我怎麼還跟這個人在一起」。

It's a beautiful day to remember that the second order effect of what you are doing now will arrive much later.

這是個很棒的日子，要記得你現在做的事，它的二階效應會很久以後才會出現。

you can probably agree to this, Chris, because you and I are in our later years now.

你大概也會同意這點，Chris，因為你和我現在都進入了人生的後期階段。

Shit feels like it arrives really goddamn soon, huh?

And this is something that if you deeply understand it, even believe on a surface level, can really help you as a revelation.

這件事，如果你能深刻理解，甚至只是表面上相信，都能給你很大的啟發，就像頓悟一樣。

The younger you can accept that reality, the better.

你越早接受這個現實，就越好。

Like tomorrow you someone you really want to have like their back, short of like you're 95, you have a terminal prostate cancer diagnosis.

就像明天你想要有人支持你，除非你已經95歲，還被診斷出末期攝護腺癌。

At that point, if it's not hookers or alcohol coming into my room, there's a do not enter sign.

到那個時候，如果進我房間的不是妓女或酒，那就會掛上請勿打擾的牌子。

But up until that point, I kind of want to reserve at least some fertile ground for the future.

但在那之前，我還是想為未來保留一些可能性。

And when you're younger and when you're in your middle age and you're really building something, you might even consider that if I do a lot of stuff that I don't particularly want to do right now, all the time, and

當你年輕、中年，正在努力建立事業時，你可能會想，如果我現在做很多不想做的事，而且是長時間的，

I do that now and I plow away for a while, I might end up in a world later where future me has just got it God damn easy and the living is good.

如果我現在就這麼做，努力一段時間，我可能會在未來過上輕鬆自在、美好的生活。

And then future you is going to be like, dude, past me fucked shit up.

然後未來的你就會想，老兄，過去的我把事情搞砸了。

And then if you're like me, you're like, oh, there's still another future me in the future.

然後如果你跟我一樣，你會想，喔，未來還有另一個未來的我。

In other news, this episode is brought to you by Momentous.

另外，本集由 Momentous 贊助播出。

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如果你的運動表現不佳、恢復緩慢，或者只是覺得渾身不對勁，問題可能不是你的訓練計畫或飲食，而是比較無聊的因素，像是你的睪固酮。

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而且當它與鋅一起搭配時，能大幅提升睪固酮生成、力量、恢復和能量，這就是為什麼我這麼喜歡 Momentous 的鋅。

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如果你還是不確定，Momentous 提供 30 天的退款保證，所以你可以買來試用 29 天。

If you don't love it, they'll give you your money back.

如果你不喜歡，他們會退還你的錢。

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