Name: 參議員加勒戈猛批川普「最愚蠢決定」：格陵蘭開採計畫！ (‘Dumbest decision’: Sen. Gallego slams Trump's Greenland push)
Uploaded: 2026-01-19T17:47:26.000Z
Duration: 9 min 58 s

You've called President Trump an idiot for his push to take control of Greenland and you've said that Congress can't take any chances of allowing that to happen.

你曾稱 President Trump 是個笨蛋，因為他想控制格陵蘭，而且你說國會不能冒任何險讓他得逞。

You've met with the foreign ministers of both Denmark and Greenland this past week.

你上週會見了丹麥和格陵蘭的外交部長。

How are they reacting to President Trump's threats?

他們對 President Trump 的威脅有什麼反應？

Look, they're shocked and they're trying to find reason within what's happening here.

看看，他們很震驚，而且他們試圖理解正在發生的事。

And I tried to explain to them there is no reasoning.

我試著向他們解釋，根本沒有理由。

The President just wants to have a legacy piece where he gets to claim that he brought in this big chunk of land that he sees on the map, even though it's know distorted map, and

總統只是想留下政治遺產，聲稱他得到了這塊地圖上看到的大片土地，即使那是一張扭曲的地圖，而且

he's willing to ruin our whole foreign policy, all of our alliances, our economy, just so he could get what he wants.

他願意毀掉我們所有的外交政策、所有聯盟、我們的經濟，只為了得到他想要的。

This man is doing everything for himself and nothing for us.

這個人做的一切都是為了自己，而不是為了我們。

We're going to spend billions and billions of dollars, potentially half a trillion dollars, which is never going to happen.

我們要花費數十億、數十億美元，甚至可能高達兆美元，這根本不可能發生。

But right now, we can't even afford health insurance for US Citizens, and we're talking about buying land.

但現在，我們連美國公民的健康保險都付不起，卻還在談論購買土地。

And let me just say one more time, Denmark.

The king in Denmark angrily has said, we will give you everything you want short of giving you possession of our land.

丹麥國王憤怒地表示，除了給予我們土地的擁有權之外，你們想要什麼我們都給。

你們想要更多軍事基地，我們就給你們更多軍事基地。

The idea that we're going to waste money for everything we want is the dumbest decision we can make.

我們為了想要的東西浪費錢的想法，是我們能做出的最愚蠢的決定。

The only one can make a decision this dumb is someone that would actually let a casino go under.

做出這麼愚蠢決定的唯一一個人，就是那種會讓賭場倒閉的人。

This threat that he put out yesterday, just to remind viewers, it may not have been checking Truth Social yesterday, but

他昨天發出的這個威脅，提醒觀眾，可能你們昨天沒有查看 Truth Social，但是

10% tariffs on these European countries starting February 1st and then an additional 25% in June 1st.

從二月一日起，對這些歐洲國家課徵百分之十的關稅，然後在六月一日再加徵百分之二十五。

That's the question so many people have is he is how he is not backing down despite we're seeing so much pushback in Congress, around the world, in America's closest allies.

這也是許多人想問的問題，他為什麼沒有退縮，儘管我們看到國會、全世界、以及美國最親近的盟友都有這麼大的反彈。

你看，我得說，這些很多都是即將發生的。

Obviously, this was ratcheted up rhetoric in the days after the Venezuela operation.

顯然，這是在委內瑞拉行動後的幾天裡，言論的升級。

The President is feeling very, very emboldened after the success of that, of the capture of Nicolas Maduro and what they were able to do there.

總統在這次成功後，在尼古拉斯·馬杜羅被捕以及他們在那裡能做到的事情上，感到非常、非常有信心。

And that's part of what's happening behind the scenes.

這也是幕後正在發生的事情的一部分。

I'd remind you, this is something Trump has wanted for several years.

我要提醒你，這是川普總統好幾年來一直想要的。

He, he tried and failed during his first term to try and see what he could do about Getting a portion of Greenland, annexing Greenland, not to this extent, but

他，他在第一個任期時試著想辦法，想看看他能做些什麼來取得一部分的格陵蘭，併吞格陵蘭，雖然沒到這麼誇張的程度，但是

wanted to do this and was essentially told he couldn't by the people around him then.

他想這麼做，但當時身邊的人基本上都告訴他不行。

Now he is very much emboldened to trying to see what he can do here.

現在他更有膽量想看看他能在這裡做些什麼。

And I will say despite a lot of the, a lot of uneasiness, I'd argue behind the scenes, even at the White House from some of his top advisers about this idea of potentially using the military to go in and then try to gain control of what is a Danish territory and undermining NATO to do so.

我必須說，儘管幕後有很多、很多不安，我認為就連白宮裡的一些頂級顧問也對這個想法感到不安，也就是有可能動用軍隊，然後試圖控制丹麥的領土，並藉此破壞北約。

The President believes that this is a legacy building thing for him.

總統認為這對他來說是一個政治遺產。

And that's what I think a lot of this comes down to, particularly when you look at the foreign policy thing here.

我認為這也是很多事情的癥結所在，特別是當你看看這裡的外交政策。

He believes that the Arctic region needs this type of security, not just for national security reasons because of aggression from China and Russia, but

他認為北極地區需要這種安全，不僅僅是出於國家安全理由，因為中國和俄羅斯的侵略，而是

I'll just say this is something he very much believes is necessary.

我只想說，這件事他非常相信是必要的。

And so the politics around it is actually almost secondary to what he believes will be a legacy building thing and natural resources.

所以圍繞它的政治操作，其實幾乎是次要的，因為他認為這將會是一個建立政治遺產和開發自然資源的事情。

I mean, he's been saying this is all about national security.

我是說，他一直說這一切都是為了國家安全。

But I remember when Mike Wallace was coming in as national security adviser and he also mentioned critical minerals.

但我記得麥克·華萊士（Mike Wallace）剛擔任國家安全顧問時，他也提到了關鍵礦產。

That are under some of the ice there in Greenland as well.

那些也在格陵蘭冰層下的礦產。

I think the emboldened point is absolutely right.

我認為你強調的重點完全正確。

When I think of when I saw the True Social Post yesterday, I immediately went back to when we were in the Oval Office with him and we asked him, what can stop you on the world stage right now?

我記得昨天看到 Truth Social 的貼文時，我立刻回想起我們在他總統辦公室的時候，問他，現在在國際舞臺上有什麼能阻止你？

What do you feel is, is a, is a restraint on your power?

什麼是你覺得，是，是限制你權力的東西？

And he said, myself, he said, my own morality.

他說，我自己，他說，我自己的道德。

And we asked what about international law?

And he brushed that aside, essentially, I don't need international law.

他就把那個推開了，基本上，我不需要國際法。

Now look at these, when you now look at these, these threats on Greenland, particularly after military operation in Venezuela.

現在看看這些，當你現在看看這些，這些對格陵蘭的威脅，尤其是在委內瑞拉的軍事行動之後。

如果他在那裡真的有處理的話。

But you mentioned the pushback that is happening and how Trump doesn't seem to care about that.

但你提到了正在發生的反彈，以及川普似乎不在乎這件事。

The American public, this is what they said.

According to the CNN poll that came out just a couple days ago, it said about should the United States take control of Greenland not very popular there, as you can see, only among independents.

根據幾天前CNN的民調，大約有…美國是否應該控制格陵蘭，這在那裡不太受歡迎，如你所見，只有獨立選民比較支持。

Just 52% of Republicans are in favor of it, which is not a good number for Trump, who's usually the 80s and 90s when it comes to GOP support, but

只有 52% 的共和黨人支持，這對川普來說不是個好數字，他通常在共和黨支持度上都有八九十趴，但

significant opposition across the board there.

And then on Capitol Hill, there was actually a delegation in Denmark while Trump was making this tariff threat.

然後在國會山莊，川普發出關稅威脅時，其實有一個代表團正在丹麥。

Thom Tillis, a Republican senator, said the fact that only a small handful of advisers are actively pushing for course of action to seize territory of an ally is, quote, beyond stupid.

共和黨參議員 Thom Tillis 說，只有少數顧問積極推動奪取盟友領土的行動，這簡直是「蠢到不行」。

And then Lisa Murkowski, another Republican, called this unnecessary, punitive and a profound mistake.

另一位共和黨人 Lisa Murkowski 則稱這是「不必要、懲罰性且嚴重的錯誤」。

So these are the people who support NATO, their support, they wanted to show support for Denmark.

所以這些人支持北約，他們想表達對丹麥的支持。

So perhaps not surprising they're saying this, but Trump doesn't seem to care about this.

所以他們這樣說或許不令人意外，但川普似乎並不在乎。

I mean, these Republican senators and lots of people have wanted to pretend that this is not a real thing for a very long time, dating back to 2019, when Trump first began floating this.

我的意思是，這些共和黨參議員和許多人很長一段時間以來都想假裝這不是真的，這要追溯到 2019 年川普首次提出這個想法的時候。

I think this tariff threat is the latest sign that they need to take this seriously.

我認為這項關稅威脅是他們需要認真看待的最新跡象。

And those senators that believe in the importance of NATO probably need to reckon with the idea that even Trump, the things Trump is doing shy of a military invasion of Greenland could really damage that alliance over the long term.

而那些重視北約重要性的參議員，可能得好好想想，即使是川普，他那些未達軍事入侵格陵蘭程度的行為，長期來看也會嚴重損害這個聯盟。

Maybe they need to do something about this because he does appear to be serious about it.

也許他們需要對此採取行動，因為他似乎是認真的。

So I think in the coming days, it's going to be really telling to see how some of these members talk.

所以我認為在接下來的幾天，觀察這些成員們的談話方式將會非常關鍵。

他們的談話方式會像 Thom Tillis 一樣嗎？

他們會像 Lisa Murkowski 一樣說話嗎？

Do they start to talk about something we saw recently with Venezuela, which is a war powers resolution that would somehow restrict what Trump can do?

他們會開始談論我們最近在委內瑞拉看到的，也就是某種程度上限制川普能做什麼的戰爭權力決議嗎？

Do they start talking about reining in his tariff authorities?

他們會開始談論限制他的關稅權力嗎？

I think it's difficult to believe they would ever do that because that would be a huge rebuke of Trump.

我認為很難相信他們會這麼做，因為這將是對川普的巨大譴責。

But those are the levers that are very much available to them if they feel strongly.

但如果他們立場堅定，這些都是他們可以使用的手段。

And Aaron, you actually have a good piece here about just how the GOP's non interventionist phase is over.

而且 Aaron，你這篇文章寫得很好，點出了共和黨的非幹預主義時期已經結束了。

Because you're seeing, you know, we're seeing not just in Greenland, but all these other.

因為我們看到，不只是在格陵蘭，還有所有這些地方。

What happened to the, you know, the president who was not going to be involved in rebuilding or intervening.

那個過去不介入重建或幹預的總統，發生了什麼事？

And over the weekend, he also threatened Iran's supreme leader, calling him a criminal and saying that, you know, this is.

而且週末，他還威脅伊朗最高領袖，稱他為罪犯，並說，你知道，這是。

Called him a sick man who should run his country properly and stop killing people.

稱他為病態的人，應該好好管理國家，停止殺人。

He told that to Politico over the weekend.

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