Name: 中國嚴厲抨擊美國推翻馬杜羅！ | DW 新聞 (China sharply criticizes US toppling of Maduro | DW News)
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The seizure of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro poses a major headache for China, a close political ally of Caracas and major importer of Venezuelan oil.

委內瑞拉總統 Nicolas Maduro 被扣押，對 China 這個與 Caracas 關係密切的政治盟友及委內瑞拉石油的主要進口國來說，是個大麻煩。

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Ever since the era of authoritarian leader Hugo Chavez, Venezuela has been China's most consistent partner in the Americas.

自從威權領導人 Hugo Chavez 時期以來，委內瑞拉一直是 China 在 Americas 最穩定的夥伴。

Beijing has staunchly supported the Maduro government.

Beijing 一直堅定支持 Maduro government。

The Friendship has helped China expand its presence in a region the US Considers its backyard.

Friendship 幫助 China 擴大了在美國視為自家後院的區域的影響力。

But China's carefully developed ties to Venezuela could now be in jeopardy.

但 China 與委內瑞拉精心發展的關係，現在可能岌岌可危。

And we can discuss that now with DW China analyst Clifford Kunan.

我們現在可以和 DW China analyst Clifford Kunan 一起討論這個話題。

Now China's described this relationship with Venezuela as a kind of all weather strategic partnership.

現在 China 形容與委內瑞拉的關係，是一種全天候戰略夥伴關係。

Do you expect Beijing to do anything specific right now to support Maduro?

你預期 Beijing 現在會採取什麼具體行動來支持 Maduro 嗎？

I think when looking at this very close partnership, you have to go by, you know, what do I say and what do I do?

我認為在看待這段非常緊密的夥伴關係時，你必須去判斷，你知道的，我說的和做的。

So the language since the, since over the last couple of days has been very much angry, talking about hegemony, talking about anger, outrage against America.

所以，這幾天的說法都非常憤怒，談論霸權，談論對美國的憤怒和不滿。

On the other hand, there hasn't been anything more than that.

另一方面，除了這些之外，就沒有別的了。

So what you have here is an economic partnership, but it's not necessarily a political partnership.

所以你們看到的是一種經濟夥伴關係，但這不一定是一種政治夥伴關係。

It isn't something that they're going to prepare to really act on.

這不是他們會真正採取行動準備的事情。

So China is in a difficult position certainly because it needs to show its backing for Venezuela, which has been its partner for so many years, as you mentioned, since the Chavez era.

所以 China 處於一個困難的境地，因為它需要展現對委內瑞拉的支持，正如你提到的，自 Hugo Chavez 時代以來，委內瑞拉一直是它的夥伴。

But at the same time it's restricted in what it can do.

It's very far away for one, and it seemed very much within the American sphere of influence.

首先，它離得很遠，而且似乎非常處於美國的勢力範圍內。

So you have a lot of the language backing the Global South Diet sort of rhetoric.

所以你們聽到了很多支持全球南方飲食之類說法的語言。

But at the same time, in terms of what it can do, it's very constrained.

但同時，就它能做的事情而言，它受到了很大的限制。

You talked about the economic partnership between the two countries.

你談到了兩國之間的經濟夥伴關係。

What could China do to, or what do you think it'll do to secure this oil supply gets from Venezuela?

中國能做些什麼，或者你認為它會怎麼做來確保從委內瑞拉獲得石油供應？

Well, the oil supply is very interesting because basically since there's been sanctions on Venezuela for a long time imposed by the US And China's had to get around them, traders, oil traders, talk about how a lot of the oil going from Venezuela flies, say under a Malaysian flag or flags of third countries to get around the sanctions.

嗯，石油供應很有趣，因為基本上自從美國對委內瑞拉實施制裁以來，中國必須繞過它們，交易員、石油交易員談論了許多從委內瑞拉運出的石油，例如懸掛馬來西亞國旗或第三國的旗幟來規避制裁。

That's going to be extremely difficult now that since the removal of Maduro.

由於馬杜羅被罷免，現在這將會非常困難。

So there's that issue that it has to deal with a lot of.

所以它必須處理很多這方面的問題。

They reckon that Venezuela owes China probably around $20 billion at this point through various oil for cash deals.

他們估計委內瑞拉透過各種以油換現金協議，大概欠中國200億美元。

But again, if there are restrictions on the supply of oil, that's also going to be very problematic for it.

但同樣地，如果石油供應受到限制，這對中國來說也會非常麻煩。

As you can see this sort of picture emerging.

你可以看到這樣的局面正在形成。

This is, this kind of action is unprecedented and China likes to act in a very slow and methodical kind of way and wear things down.

這種行動是史無前例的，而中國喜歡以一種非常緩慢且有條不紊的方式行事，並慢慢消耗事物。

But as we've seen from the, from the Trump administration, it behaves in the exact opposite way.

不過，就像我們從川普政府那裡看到的，它的做法完全相反。

So securing the oil supply and securing that, that it's funding.

所以確保石油供應，以及確保資金。

And also another aspect of it of is rare earths.

This is another thing that the Americans are very interested in Venezuela and that China is interested too, because a lot of competition for that.

這是美國對委內瑞拉非常感興趣，而中國也同樣感興趣的另一件事，因為這方面競爭很激烈。

So securing all of these is going to be a major challenge for China.

所以確保這一切對中國來說都會是一個大挑戰。

Let's look at another aspect of the relationships.

我們來看看關係的另一個方面。

China, looking at what the US has done in Venezuela, do you think it will probably be empowered or emboldened to take action in Taiwan?

中國，看看美國在委內瑞拉的所作所為，你認為它可能會被賦予權力或鼓舞，在臺灣採取行動嗎？

Now, this is a very interesting question because I think on one level, certainly superficially you would think it would be because this is basically acting in a kind of a lawless way by the Americans, which would seem to give the Chinese carte blanche to do what it wants in Taiwan and indeed for Russia to do what it wants in Ukraine.

現在，這是一個非常有趣的問題，因為我認為一方面，當然表面上看你會認為會，因為這基本上是美國一種無法無天的行為，這似乎讓中國在臺灣為所欲為，俄羅斯也在烏克蘭為所欲為。

So on that level it would appear to free them up.

所以從那個層面來看，它似乎讓他們可以放手去做。

On the other hand, it also shows that America is prepared to act unilaterally in situations where it feels that its issues, that it feels its interests are being compromised.

另一方面，這也顯示美國願意在認為其議題、其利益受到損害的情況下採取單方面行動。

And it might give China more pause to act in Taiwan, to try an invasion of Taiwan, because suddenly the Americans have got, they've got, they've got a lot of power.

而且這可能會讓中國在臺灣採取行動，試圖入侵臺灣時有所猶豫，因為美國突然擁有了很多力量。

And I think US Power is really something that we're all learning again in the last few months that it didn't go anywhere.

我認為美國的力量，在過去幾個月裡，我們都在重新學習，它並沒有消失。

It's just now it's really being wielded in a way and that could be very much something that we could see in Taiwan.

它只是現在正以一種方式被運用，而這很可能就是我們在臺灣看到的。

So I think, think overall, I don't think this makes the invasion of Taiwan more likely.

所以總體來說，我認為這不會讓入侵臺灣的可能性增加。

If anything, it'll give China pause to think about things.

如果有的話，這會讓中國停下來思考。

You mentioned the comments China has made in response to what the US has done in Venezuela.

你提到了中國對美國在委內瑞拉的行動所做的回應。

How do you think this whole scenario affects the relationship, the US China relationship?

你認為整個情況會如何影響美中關係？

Well, I think because things have been so strained over the trade war for a long time, it's certainly not going to help.

嗯，我認為因為長期的貿易戰，兩國關係一直很緊張，這肯定無濟於事。

And because China does have its interests in Venezuela, it's also going to add to those tensions.

而且因為中國在委內瑞拉有其利益，這也會加劇這些緊張關係。

On the other hand, China doesn't have that many.

另一方面，中國並沒有那麼多。

It's still, as I was saying, very far away.

就像我剛才說的，這還離得很遠。

It doesn't really have any major strategic interests there.

它在那裡並沒有什麼重大的戰略利益。

It's much more interested in South China Sea in Southeast Asia and obviously in Taiwan and in pushing its interests there.

它對南海、東南亞，當然還有臺灣，以及在那裡推動自身利益更感興趣。

So I think what given the way, the modus operandi that we've seen with China over the years, I can see a certain amount of pressure to have talks and to maybe to use this as leverage or something like that.

所以我認為，鑑於中國多年來的運作模式，我可以看到它會施加一定的壓力來進行談判，或者也許會利用這一點作為籌碼之類的。

Certainly, I think the geopolitical situation in the last three days or whatever has been completely thrown wide open.

當然，我認為過去三天或whatever的地緣政治局勢已經完全被打開了。

So I think we're going to have to deal with that.

And this is going to be the relationship between us and China, which is the defining geopolitical relationship in the world, is certainly going to be recalibrated, I think, as a result of this action.

我認為，我們與中國之間的關係，這世界上定義性的地緣政治關係，肯定會是以事被重新調整。

DW China analyst Clifford Koonan, thank you.

DW China analyst Clifford Kunan，謝謝。