Name: 社群媒體與手機禁令：證據在哪裡？-BBC世界頻道「世界風雲」podcast (Bans on social media and phones: what's the evidence? - What in the World podcast, BBC World Service)
Uploaded: 2025-12-02T15:26:28.000Z
Duration: 19 min 49 s

Welcome to this episode of what in the World from the BBC World Service.

歡迎收看 BBC World Service 的「世界大小事」。

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Like, I keep on grabbing mine to check for notifications and messages.

就像我會一直拿起手機來看通知和訊息。

It feels like if I were to leave my phone at home for even just a few hours, there's this, like, sense of dread in the pit of my stomach.

感覺如果我把手機留在家裡幾個小時，我心裡就會有種恐懼感。

And as long as there have been smartphones, we have been talking about whether children should have them, should they be allowed in schools, what kind of age limits should there on social media?

而且，自從智慧型手機出現以來，我們一直在討論孩子們該不該用手機、學校裡該不該允許使用手機、社群媒體應該設定什麼樣的年齡限制等等。

But what evidence is there that smartphones are actually bad for us?

但有什麼證據顯示智慧型手機真的對我們不好呢？

那學生們又是怎麼看待這件事的呢？

Here to talk us through it is Hayley Clark, BBC journalist.

來跟我們聊聊這件事的是 BBC 記者 Hayley Clark。

Right, so I thought if we're going to be talking about teenagers and their phones and we're going to be talking about schools and whether they should be banned, we have to be really honest as well, because I don't know about you, but, like, every week my phone tries to tell me my screen time and quickly flick it away in, like, fear and shame.

好的，所以我想，既然我們要討論青少年和他們的手機，還有學校是否應該禁止使用手機，我們也必須非常誠實，因為我不知道你怎麼樣，但就像，我每週手機都會試圖告訴我我的螢幕使用時間，我都會趕快把它滑掉，帶著恐懼和羞恥感。

And if you go to your screen time, there should be a little purple egg timer.

然後如果你去看你的螢幕使用時間，應該會看到一個小小的紫色沙漏圖示。

We're gonna have a look and then show each other.

我們要來看一下，然後互相展示。

It's four hours and 14 minutes every day.

Four hours and 14 minutes of time spent or wasted on this.

四小時又十四分鐘，是花在上面還是浪費在上面。

I'm really surprised about this because I've set time limits on most my apps, like Instagram.

這點我真的有點驚訝，因為我幫很多 App 設定了時間限制，像是 Instagram。

After being on it for, like, 15, 20 minutes a day, it tells me you have reached your time limit.

每天用大概 15、20 分鐘後，它就會跳出「你已達到使用時間限制」。

It says you're going into sleep mode, and

它說你要進入睡眠模式了，然後

then I just again, flick it away and just turn it down.

我又會把它滑掉，然後把它關掉。

Maybe my phone just doesn't want to show me.

或許我的手機就是不想顯示給我看。

It knows I'm not ready for this information.

它知道我還沒準備好接收這些資訊。

I think there's been a malfunction because mine says three hours, 29, but that is definitely lower.

我覺得有點故障，因為我的顯示三小時又29分，但這絕對是比較低的。

It's usually like tipping towards 5, I would say.

我覺得通常會比較接近五小時。

Yeah, mine are the same with some embarrassing ones thrown in like ebay and Amazon.

對啊，我的差不多，還夾雜一些有點不好意思的，像是 ebay 和 Amazon。

So the notifications, the distractions, I'll go on it for like actually useful purposes.

所以那些通知、那些分心，我可能會為了真正有用的目的去用。

Maybe Internet banking, maybe to read something on the news, maybe to reply to a message I actually need to see and I just cannot resist.

像是網路銀行，或是看新聞，或是回覆我真的需要看到的訊息，但我就是忍不住。

Then the other notifications and the dopamine hit that comes from, from scrolling.

然後其他的通知，還有滑動螢幕帶來的多巴胺刺激。

I can't have like an unread notification.

I have to make sure that all of notifications are checked and then there's like a kind of constant element of doing that to just make sure that like all my ground is covered, that I've got a clean slate so that I can think about other things.

我必須確保所有通知都已處理完畢，然後這就像一種持續的習慣，只是為了確保我已經把事情都處理好，有個乾淨的開始，這樣我才能思考其他事情。

So it's hard to get sort of a consistent account around the world.

所以很難在全球範圍內得到一個一致的數據。

But some statistics say that adults like over 18s are using their phones for almost 5 hours a day.

但有些統計數據顯示，成年人（18歲以上）每天使用手機的時間接近5小時。

And actually the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated screen time, like screen time overall for 11 to 14 year olds as nine hours a day and seven and a half hours.

事實上，疾病管制預防中心估計 11 到 14 歲的螢幕使用時間，整體螢幕使用時間是每天九小時，還有七個半小時。

Okay, that actually, that makes me feel a bit better about my.

喔，這樣說，我對我的感覺好多了。

But we didn't add in our computer and TV time and all of that.

但我們沒有算電腦和電視的時間等等。

所以這是總體的螢幕使用時間嗎？

And also nearly half of teens self report that they use the Internet almost constantly.

而且將近一半的青少年自己報告說，他們幾乎一直在使用網路。

So it does seem like the data is showing that phone use and screen time is just consistently rising.

所以數據看起來確實顯示，手機使用量和螢幕使用時間一直在持續增加。

So it kind of makes sense, right, that some countries are now talking about bans or restrictions or limits on phones and social media use, which are the main countries that are talking about it.

所以，有些國家現在正在討論禁止、限制或限制手機和社群媒體的使用，這也是大家在討論的主要國家，這聽起來是不是很合理？

So in 2023, a UN report recommended that smartphones should be banned in schools.

所以在 2023 年，一份聯合國的報告建議學校應該禁止使用智慧型手機。

They said to red classroom disruption and protect kids from online bullying.

他們說這是為了減少課堂幹擾，並保護孩子們免受網路霸凌。

And there's lots of different countries trialing lots of different things.

而且有很多不同的國家正在試驗各種不同的方法。

So in France there is a trial happening called a digital pause where over 200 schools are asking teenagers to hand in their phones at reception.

所以在法國，有一個叫做「數位暫停」的試驗，有超過 200 所學校要求青少年在上課時將手機交到接待處。

Here in the uk it is a big topic, it's a big debate and the government's looking at legislation to potentially ban under sixteens from social media.

在英國，這是一個很大的話題，一個很大的辯論，政府正在考慮立法，可能會禁止未滿 16 歲的人使用社群媒體。

And in the US it kind of varies state by state, but

而在美國，這在各州情況不太一樣，但

in Florida, a bill has passed to ban social media for under 14s and that's going to come into force in January 2025.

在佛羅裡達州，一項法案已經通過，禁止 14 歲以下的兒童使用社群媒體，這將在 2025 年 1 月生效。

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