Name: 這是誤導特朗普與阿根廷達成的牛肉協議激怒了美國陷入困境的農民 (‘It’s misguided’: Trump’s beef deal with Argentina angers America’s struggling farmers)
Uploaded: 2025-10-24T01:45:22.000Z
Duration: 6 min 56 s

President Trump's plan to buy more beef from Argentina is getting seared by American cattle ranchers.

川普總統要從阿根廷多買牛肉的計畫，正受到美國養牛業者的強烈批評。

A White House official telling CNN the administration plans to let more beef from Argentina onto the shelves in American stores to help lower record prices on beef here in the US and now President Trump is facing backlash from US Cattle ranchers to Republican farm state lawmakers.

白宮一位官員告訴CNN，政府計畫讓更多阿根廷牛肉上架到美國商店，以幫助降低美國創紀錄的牛肉價格，現在川普總統正面臨美國養牛業者和共和黨務農州議員的強烈反彈。

Here's White House press secretary Caroline Levitt responding.

白宮新聞祕書卡羅琳·萊維特對此做出了回應。

The President loves our ranchers and he also loves American consumers.

總統愛我們的牧場主，也愛美國的消費者。

他希望兩者都能得到公平對待。

So the immediate solution to the problem of the rising cost of beef, the President wants to bring that down as we have to increase our supply.

所以，針對牛肉價格上漲這個問題，總統希望立即解決，我們必須增加我們的供應。

And so that's what he's doing with respect to these imports.

這就是他對這些進口的處理方式。

現在我們請到巴克·韋爾拜恩。

He is the president of the National Cattleman's Beef Association.

Buck, thank you so much for being with us.

巴克，非常感謝你接受我們的訪問。

He says American ranchers, quote, have to get their prices down.

他說美國的牧場主，引用他的話，「必須降低他們的價格」。

How is that landing with cattle ranchers?

這對牧場主來說，聽起來怎麼樣？

Well, it's deeply concerning to all the producers out here because we have spent generations improving the genetics and, and

嗯，這讓這裡的生產者都非常擔心，因為我們花了好幾代的時間來改良基因，還有

the processes that we use and the feed that we use and so forth to where we produce the best and most high quality product ever here.

我們使用的流程，以及我們使用的飼料等等，讓我們生產出史上最好、品質最高產品。

And the price is up because the herd is down.

而價格上漲是因為牛群減少了。

And so supply, more supply will cause the price to go down.

所以供應，增加供應就會讓價格下降。

However, the problem is, as the President talks about this, his rhetoric is heard by our markets, like our futures markets, and

然而，問題是，當總統談論這件事時，他的言論被我們的市場聽到了，像是我們的期貨市場，然後

they respond immediately and violently, which impacts us directly and immediately, but

他們會立刻做出激烈反應，這直接且立即地影響到我們，但是

has no impact on the retail, you know, what the, what the consumer buys.

對零售價，也就是消費者買到的價格，卻沒有影響。

We understand what he's trying to do, but

it's misguided because it's hurting us and not helping the consumer.

這是誤導的，因為這傷害了我們，卻沒有幫助到消費者。

It will take a long time for the price to come down in the grocery store.

要讓超市的價格下降，還需要很長一段時間。

嗯，可以解釋一下這個時間表嗎？

What can cattle ranchers do to get the price down?

牧場主們可以做些什麼來讓價格下降？

As you do have this issue with herds being small.

The herd is small because of lack of feed, drought, things like that, input costs going up.

牛群數量少是因為飼料不足、乾旱等等，還有投入成本不斷上漲。

And part of it, a lot of it, quite a bit, is uncertainty.

其中一部分，很多部分，相當一部分，是因為不確定性。

And uncertainty comes from things like overregulation and also uncertainty with the markets, which of course we're talking about happening with the President's rhetoric.

而不確定性來自於像是過度監管，以及市場的不確定性，這當然就是我們正在談論的總統言論所造成的。

And so the market will cause the herd to be rebuilt and it is by high prices.

所以市場會讓牛群重建，而這就是透過高價來達成。

The old saying in the markets are high prices are the cure for high prices is high prices.

市場上有句老話，高價是高價的解藥，也就是高價。

We want it to occur naturally, not be manipulated.

我們希望它自然發生，而不是被操縱。

Do you see consumers turning away from beef?

你認為消費者會是以不再購買牛肉嗎？

There's some reporting that demand has plateaued as we've seen record high prices.

有報導指出，隨著我們看到創紀錄的高價，需求已經趨於平穩。

嗯，我不是經濟學家，布里安娜，但

what I see and hear from the people that are is that the demand remains strong.

我看到和聽到的是，需求依然強勁。

We all know you can only go up so far, and

我們都知道價格不可能無限上漲，

cattlemen are professional warriors and we worry about that, of course.

牧場主們都是專業的戰士，我們當然會擔心這一點。

But the demand for our product, because of what I was saying earlier, the quality of it so far has remained very, very strong.

但我們的產品需求，因為我剛才說的，品質非常非常強勁，一直保持著。

There are other proteins that they can choose from, and yet they continue to buy ours.

他們還有其他蛋白質可以選擇，但他們還是繼續買我們的。

跟我家週五漢堡日的小孩說說看。

They're not going to let me get away with something else, I'll tell you that.

我跟你說，他們不會讓我隨便亂搞的。

What policies would you like to see pursued instead?

你希望看到政府推行什麼樣的政策呢？

There are things that they can do and could do immediately.

有些事情他們現在就可以做，而且馬上就能做。

We have a bad pest making its way through Mexico that's going to get here, we're not sure when, but

有一種很糟糕的害蟲正從墨西哥過來，我們不確定什麼時候會到，

And that's going to add to making our supply low.

And it also adds to the uncertainty I mentioned.

這也增加了我剛才提到的不確定性。

And we're very grateful that the administration and Secretary Rollins has committed to a lot of money for a facility to combat that in South Texas that was talked about in August.

我們非常感謝政府和羅林斯部長承諾撥款，在南德州建立一個設施來對抗牠，這是在八月時討論過的。

So turning some dirt and getting some work going on, that would be very good.

所以動手翻土、開始進行一些工作，這會是很棒的。

We've got regulations like the Endangered Species act, and

我們有像瀕臨絕種野生動植物保育法這樣的規定，

we've got gray wolf that is now killing lots of calves, black vulture, things of that nature that could be delisted that would help us and just removing some of the uncertainty.

還有現在正在殺害許多牛犢的灰狼、黑禿鷲，這些情況如果能解除管制，對我們會有幫助，也能減少一些不確定性。

The uncertainty of the market is the big one.

市場的不確定性是最大的問題。

And you know, we notice in, in the president's statement, he, he says he loves cattle ranchers and he's enjoyed a relationship.

而且你知道，我們注意到總統的聲明中，他說他熱愛牧場主，並且享受這段關係。

So have cattle ranchers where they have felt, I think, close to the president and taken care of by his policies.

牧場主們也是如此，我認為他們感覺與總統很親近，並且受到他的政策照顧。

Are they feeling a little rocked by this?

How are they describing this Argentina beef incident and what it has them thinking?

他們是如何描述阿根廷牛肉事件，以及這讓他們在想什麼？

what I hear from people is rocked is probably a good word for it.

我聽到的說法是，動搖（rocked）這個詞可能很貼切。

There's a noble purpose here, but the market is taking care of this as we speak.

這有崇高的目標，但市場正在處理這件事，就像我們現在說話一樣。

it will take time for the actual price to the consumer to go down.

消費者實際價格下降還需要時間。

And so we know and we believe he loves us.

所以我們知道，我們相信他愛我們。

My family loves President Trump, and I am supportive of him.

我的家人愛川普總統，我也支持他。

This is a misguided idea that we hope he will back away from, focus on those other things and let this market take care of this itself.

這是個錯誤的想法，我們希望他能放棄，專注於其他事情，讓市場自己處理。

And remember that the people have choices with protein.

而且請記住，消費者在蛋白質上有其他選擇。

Buck Wehrbein, it's great to speak with you.

巴克·韋爾拜恩，很高興能跟你聊聊。

Thank you so much for telling us how things are going with the cattle ranchers.

非常感謝你告訴我們養牛業者的情況。