Name: 特朗普稱談判是可能的，伊朗警告美國的攻擊將給該地區帶來 "地獄" | BBC News (Iran warns US attack will bring “hell” to region as Trump says negotiation is possible | BBC News)
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President Trump says he will make a decision on whether to join Israel's strikes on Iran within the next two weeks.

特朗普總統表示，他將在未來兩週內決定是否加入以色列對伊朗的打擊行動。

The White House press secretary said Donald Trump thought there was a substantial chance of negotiations with Tehran over ending the conflict.

白宮新聞祕書說，唐納德-特朗普認為有很大機會與德黑蘭就結束衝突進行談判。

It came at the end of another day of missile exchanges between Israel and Iran.

這是在以色列和伊朗又一天的飛彈交火結束後發生的。

Almost 300 people were injured in Israel today, including more than 70 when a hospital was hit.

今天，以色列有近 300 人受傷，其中包括一家醫院被擊中的 70 多人。

Iran has warned the United States not to get involved in the conflict, saying it would result in hell for the whole region.

伊朗警告美國不要捲入衝突，稱這將導致整個地區陷入地獄。

Our North America editor, Sarah Smith, is in Washington.  After all the fevered speculation that Donald Trump could make a decision to strike Iran at any moment, he has lowered the temperature considerably today by saying that he will make a decision within the next two weeks.

我們的北美編輯薩拉-史密斯正在華盛頓。  在人們紛紛猜測唐納德-特朗普隨時可能做出打擊伊朗的決定之後，他今天大大降低了溫度，稱他將在未來兩週內做出決定。

There are no talks currently scheduled with Iran, not that we know of, but he clearly wants one last chance to try to do a deal in which Iran would agree to stop all uranium enrichment in return for not being attacked by some of America's largest and most destructive weapons.

據我們所知，目前還沒有與伊朗舉行會談的計劃，但他顯然想要最後一次機會，試圖達成一項協議，讓伊朗同意停止所有鈾濃縮活動，以換取美國最大、破壞力最強的武器不對其發動攻擊。

Donald Trump's instinct is pretty much always to try and force other countries to bully them into doing what he wants without having to resort to military action.

唐納德-特朗普的本能幾乎總是試圖迫使其他國家聽從他的意願，而不必訴諸軍事行動。

Deep inside the White House, in the subterranean Situation Room, there are daily meetings discussing a possible U.S. strike on Iran.

在白宮深處的地下情況室裡，每天都有會議討論美國可能對伊朗發動的打擊。

Around the world, from Israel and Iran to the U.K. and the U.S., there is an intense focus on what decision President Trump will make.

在世界各地，從以色列和伊朗到英國和美國，人們都在密切關注特朗普總統將做出什麼樣的決定。

I will make my decision, whether or not to go, within the next two weeks.

我將在未來兩週內決定是否前往。

That's a quote directly from the President for all of you.

Mr Trump says he will not make a final decision until the very last second.

特朗普先生說，不到最後一秒，他不會做出最終決定。

I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do.

我是說，沒人知道我會做什麼。

There are media reports that Mr Trump has already approved a plan of attack, but not yet decided to implement it.

有媒體報道稱，特朗普先生已經準許了一項攻擊計劃，但尚未決定實施。

He's pushed back on that, saying on social media, the Wall Street Journal has no idea what my thoughts are concerning Iran.

他對此進行了反擊，在社交媒體上說："《華爾街日報》根本不知道我對伊朗問題的看法。

Israel has vowed retribution for this latest Iranian attack on a hospital in Beersheba.

以色列發誓要對伊朗最近對貝爾謝巴一家醫院的襲擊進行報復。

The Prime Minister is urging Donald Trump to join the battle.

首相敦促唐納德-特朗普加入這場戰鬥。

President Trump will do what's best for America.

特朗普總統將做對美國最有利的事。

He's a tremendous friend, a tremendous world leader, a tremendous friend of Israel and the Jewish people.

他是一位偉大的朋友，一位偉大的世界領袖，一位以色列和猶太人民的偉大朋友。

And we will do what we have to do, and we are doing it.

我們會做我們必須做的事情，而且我們正在這樣做。

We are committed to destroying the nuclear threat, the threat of a nuclear annihilation against Israel.

我們致力於消除核威脅，即對以色列的核毀滅威脅。

And we, of course, will make our own determination.

當然，我們會做出自己的決定。

But I have to say that the partnership with the United States, the partnership with President Trump, with whom I speak to almost every day, is incredible.

但我不得不說，與美國的夥伴關係、與特朗普總統的夥伴關係令人難以置信，我幾乎每天都與特朗普總統通話。

No one in Iran is speaking directly with President Trump, not that we know of.

據我們所知，伊朗沒有人與特朗普總統直接對話。

But he's still holding out hope that the regime may agree to give up their nuclear programme without American military action.

但他仍對北韓政權抱有希望，希望他們能同意在美國不採取軍事行動的情況下放棄核計劃。

Their public statements, though, are defiant.

不過，他們的公開聲明卻充滿挑釁。

We think that this war is not American war, but if they would like to get into this war, President Trump will be remembered forever for a war that was not his war, but dragged in.

我們認為，這場戰爭不是美國人的戰爭，但如果他們願意捲入這場戰爭，特朗普總統將因一場不是他的戰爭卻被拖入其中而被永遠銘記。

And this will be a quagmire, and this will be hell for the whole region.

這將是一個泥潭，這將是整個地區的地獄。

The likely focus of an American attack is the deeply buried nuclear site of Fordow, south of Tehran.

美國可能攻擊的重點是德黑蘭南部深埋的福爾道核基地。

Getting to this facility is near impossible with existing weapons in Israel's current arsenal.

以以色列目前的武器庫中現有的武器，要進入這一設施幾乎是不可能的。

If the US attacks, they would have to use the B-2 Spirit stealth bomber.

如果美國發動攻擊，他們將不得不使用 B-2 精神隱形轟炸機。

It is the only aircraft capable of effectively deploying the GBU-57, the massive ordnance penetrator that weighs in at 30,000 pounds.

它是唯一能夠有效部署 GBU-57 的飛機，這種巨大的彈藥穿甲彈重達 30,000 磅。

The biggest risk would be to US forces stationed in the region.

最大的風險是駐紮在該地區的美軍。

If an Iranian reprisal were to kill an American, a wider conflict could quickly ensue, one with global consequences.

如果伊朗的報復行動導致一名美國人喪生，那麼更廣泛的衝突可能會迅速爆發，並造成全球性後果。

The principle is that we need to de-escalate this.

There's a real risk of escalation here that will impact the region, possibly beyond the region, into Gaza, and obviously it's already having an impact on the economy.

這裡確實存在局勢升級的風險，這將影響到該地區，甚至可能影響到該地區以外的加沙地區，顯然這已經對經濟產生了影響。

So I've been absolutely clear, we need to de-escalate this.

是以，我的態度非常明確，我們需要緩和局勢。

By giving himself two weeks to reach a decision, President Trump has created some breathing room, a little time to give diplomacy a chance.

特朗普總統給自己兩週的時間做出決定，為自己創造了一些喘息的空間，給外交留出了一點時間。

He's hoping that the threat of US airstrikes might be enough to force Iran to comply with his demands and prevent America getting dragged into the kind of foreign war he pledged to avoid.

他希望美國空襲的威脅足以迫使伊朗滿足他的要求，避免美國捲入他承諾避免的那種對外戰爭。

Let's talk to our correspondent, Ione Wells, who is in Jerusalem.

讓我們連線我們在耶路撒冷的記者 Ione Wells。

All quiet so far tonight over Israel, but what happens now?

今晚以色列的局勢到目前為止還算平靜，但現在會發生什麼呢？

Well, I think the short answer is no, and there's a couple of factors that I think contribute to that.

我認為簡短的回答是否定的，我認為這其中有幾個因素。

Firstly, we have to look at why Israel struck Iran in the first place and their justification for that.

首先，我們必須看看以色列為什麼首先打擊伊朗，以及他們這樣做的理由。

They said that Iran's nuclear programme was days away from potentially producing a nuclear bomb, something that Iran denies, and that this was an existential threat to Israel.

他們說，伊朗的核計劃還有幾天就可能生產出核彈，而伊朗否認這一點，這是對以色列生存的威脅。

They came up with a long list of targets that they wanted to eliminate, including Iran's entire nuclear programme, but also its ballistic missile threat.

他們列出了一長串想要消滅的目標，包括伊朗的整個核計劃，也包括其彈道導彈威脅。

Now, it would seem odd for the Israeli government to suddenly decide to stop this targeting, which is clearly stated is its aim.

現在，以色列政府突然決定停止這一目標，這似乎有些奇怪，因為以色列政府已明確表示其目標就是這一目標。

Now, secondly, Israel, and especially Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, has long been sceptical of Iran's diplomacy.

其次，以色列，尤其是本雅明-內塔尼亞胡總理，長期以來一直對伊朗的外交持懷疑態度。

It is one of the reasons that people think that they may have decided to strike Iran before what was supposed to be the latest round of US-Iran negotiations over Iran's nuclear programme.

這也是人們認為他們可能決定在美國和伊朗就伊朗核計劃進行最新一輪談判之前打擊伊朗的原因之一。

So that is another factor, I think, that suggests this isn't going to go away.

是以，我認為，這是另一個表明這種情況不會消失的因素。

Now, thirdly, you have to look at what the rhetoric has been from both Israel's government, but also President Donald Trump.

第三，你必須看看以色列政府和唐納德-特朗普總統的言辭。

Prime Minister Netanyahu said just this evening that he wasn't looking for a green light from the US before those initial strikes on Iran.

內塔尼亞胡總理就在今天晚上表示，在對伊朗發動首次打擊之前，他並不希望美國開綠燈。

And Donald Trump has said as well that he's told Netanyahu to carry on.

唐納德-特朗普（Donald Trump）也表示，他已經告訴內塔尼亞胡繼續前進。

I don't think any of that looks anything like the kind of de-escalation that we've heard other world leaders calling for.

我不認為這些看起來像我們聽到其他世界領導人呼籲的那種降級。

Well, our political editor, Chris Mason, is with me now.

我們的政治編輯克里斯-梅森（Chris Mason）現在和我在一起。

De-escalation, that's what Sir Keir Starmer has been calling for.

降級，這正是基爾-斯塔默爵士一直呼籲的。

David Lammy is in Washington, he's been there today.

大衛-拉米在華盛頓，他今天去過那裡。

Is there any sign that they've been listening, Donald Trump been listening to Sir Keir Starmer?

是否有跡象表明，唐納德-特朗普一直在傾聽基爾-斯塔默爵士的意見？

Well, certainly from those I speak to in government, they see this two-week window as welcome because it's not, at least immediately, the alternative, which is an escalation.

當然，從我接觸到的政府人員來看，他們認為這兩週的時間是值得歡迎的，因為這至少不會立即導致事態升級。

The Prime Minister's watchword, as you say, has been the opposite, de-escalation.

正如你所說，首相的口號是相反的，即緩和局勢。

De-escalation, as you say, has been in Washington.

正如你所說，華盛頓一直在降級。

He met Marco Rubio, the US Secretary of State.

他會見了美國國務卿馬可-魯比奧。

He also met Steve Whitkoff, the US Special Envoy to the Middle East.

他還會見了美國中東特使史蒂夫-惠特科夫。

And I detect coming out of that a sense in Washington that emphatically they would prefer a diplomatic solution, but they're quite pessimistic about the likelihood of getting to that and that the military action remains on the table.

我從中感受到華盛頓方面的一種意識，即他們更希望通過外交途徑解決問題，但他們對實現這一目標的可能性相當悲觀，軍事行動仍然擺在桌面上。

The Foreign Secretary is now flying to Geneva in Switzerland.

外交大臣正在飛往瑞士日內瓦。

There's talks there with Iran's Foreign Minister alongside Germany and France.

伊朗外長與德國和法國外長在那裡舉行了會談。

And then back here at Westminster, there are historical parallels.

然後回到威斯敏斯特，這裡有歷史上的相似之處。

They're imperfect, but they're nonetheless being made, including from figures in government with Iraq of two decades ago, a Middle Eastern country, talk of developments of nuclear weapons, threatened US aggression.

這些言論並不完美，但還是有人說了出來，包括二十年前伊拉克政府的官員，一箇中東國家，談論核武器的發展，威脅美國的侵略。

And a big question, what should the UK do?

一個大問題是，英國應該怎麼做？

And in particular, in this instance, the military base of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean, a potential starting point for those US bombers heading to Iran if they press ahead with these strikes.

特別是在這次事件中，印度洋上的迪戈加西亞島軍事基地是美國轟炸機飛往伊朗的潛在起點，如果他們繼續進行這些打擊的話。

Now, the Liberal Democrats today have explicitly been drawing that parallel with 20 years ago, saying the legal advice should be published.

現在，自由民主黨今天明確地將其與 20 年前相提並論，稱應公佈法律意見。

The Conservatives are saying the UK should be much more bold in being willing to support an ally in Israel.

保守黨表示，英國應該更加大膽地支持盟友以色列。

But at some point, the Prime Minister's phone could ring and it could be Donald Trump saying, are you with us or not?

但在某些時候，首相的電話會響起，可能是唐納德-特朗普在說，你是否支持我們？

Well, one unlikely mediator in all this, at least that's what he has offered to do, is Russia's President Putin.

在這一切中，俄羅斯總統普京是一個不太可能的調解人，至少他主動提出要這麼做。

Russia has a strategic partnership with Iran and he is urging the United States not to intervene.

俄羅斯與伊朗有著戰略伙伴關係，他敦促美國不要干預。

Our Russia editor Steve Rosenberg reports.

本臺俄羅斯編輯 Steve Rosenberg 報道。

Petersburg this week, Vladimir Putin isn't just talking business.

本週，弗拉基米爾-普京在彼得堡不僅談生意。

He's thinking geopolitics because of the dramatic events in the Middle East.

他在思考地緣政治，因為中東發生了戲劇性的事件。

Here, the Kremlin leader's first public reaction to the escalating violence, an offer to mediate.

在這裡，克里姆林宮領導人對不斷升級的暴力事件做出了首次公開回應，表示願意進行調解。

Russia, he says, has sent signals to Israel, Iran and America.

他說，俄羅斯已經向以色列、伊朗和美國發出了信號。

From Russian diplomats, condemnation of Israeli attacks on Iran's nuclear infrastructure.

俄羅斯外交官譴責以色列襲擊伊朗核基礎設施。

Everybody is talking about political situation, regime change, but nobody is focused on the most important and dangerous thing, nuclear issue.

每個人都在談論政治局勢、政權更迭，卻沒有人關注最重要、最危險的事情--核問題。

Earlier this year, they signed a strategic partnership agreement.

今年早些時候，雙方簽署了一項戰略合作伙伴協議。

But the deal doesn't oblige Moscow to come to Tehran's defence.

但該協議並沒有要求莫斯科為德黑蘭辯護。

And it hasn't stopped the Kremlin maintaining good relations too with Israel.

這並沒有阻止克里姆林宮與以色列保持良好關係。