Name: 喪親之痛。如何通過靈性治療來改變悲傷和抑鬱的情緒 (Bereavement: How to Transform Grief & Depression Through Spiritual Healing)
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Hey, it's Marie Forleo and you are watching
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If you or anyone you know has ever struggled
with sadness or loss or depression, my guest

today is here to share an enlightening perspective
on its deeper meaning in our lives.

Marianne Williamson is an internationally
acclaimed spiritual author and lecturer.

Marianne has been a popular guest on shows
like Oprah, Larry King Live, Good Morning

Six of her eleven published books have been
New York Times Bestsellers.

The mega-bestseller, A Return to Love, is
considered a must read.

Marianne's other books include The Law of
Divine Compensation, The Age of Miracles,

Everyday Grace, A Woman's Worth, Illuminata,
Healing the Soul of America, A Course in Weight

Loss, The Gift of Change, and A Year of Miracles.

Her newest book, Tears to Triumph: The Spiritual
Journey from Suffering to Enlightenment, is

Marianne is a native of Houston, Texas and
is the founder of Project Angel Food, a meals

on wheels program that serves homebound people
with AIDS in the Los Angeles area.

To date, Project Angel Food has served over
10 million meals.

Marianne also co-founded The Peace Alliance
and serves on the board of The Results Organization,

working to end the worst ravages of hunger
and poverty throughout the world.

Marianne, thank you so much for making time
to be here.

I want to acknowledge, once again, I know
you've been on the show before and we only

did audio because we had some challenges with
the video.

But thank you for the work that you do in
the world.

...it just… it always makes such a difference
to me and I'm always so excited when you

have a new book coming out, which today…

You've been counseling people for over 30
years…

You've also had dark nights of the soul
yourself.

Tell us about what inspired you to write this
book now.

Well, actually, why I decided to write the
book, I ran for Congress a couple of years

And after the election, a few days afterwards,
I was being interviewed by Maria Shriver and

I said, “No, you know, somebody… you don't
go into a political election knowing you're

Somebody's going to win, somebody's going
to lose.

She said, “I had a cousin who ran for Congress
and lost and it was just devastating for him

And then about 2 or 3 days later I think,
I was actually sitting in my apartment and

it was like a black wave, huge wave, was coming
at me like a tsunami.

And I had been through it once, very, very
terrible time in my life, a tragic time in

But also, we all go through our dark nights
of the soul.

And I think also, suffering gives you x-ray
vision into other people's sufferings.

So, for instance, like when you were talking
about my work.

My career began right smack dab in the middle
of the AIDS crisis.

And so from the very beginning of my work,
applying these principles in the lives of

people in often catastrophic situations has
been core to my experience.

Now, what I have seen though in the last few
years, what we've all seen, is that it's

almost like we've begun to make being deeply
sad wrong.

Something has happened in our society where
what I think of as a normal spectrum of human

suffering, if you take a risk and really put
yourself into it and many people back you

and support you and then you fall flat on
your face, of course you're going to be depressed

If you are diagnosed with a serious disease,
of course you're going to be depressed about

If you go through a painful divorce, of course
you're going to be in pain for a while.

But those pains are not a mental illness.

And what I've seen in the last few years
is so many people who are on antidepressants,

who are on pharmaceuticals when if you ask
them why, describe situations that are depressing

And this is particularly disturbing and I
think all of us should be very aware of this.

The FDA itself has warned, and does warn,
for people 25 and younger, antidepressants

can increase, not decrease, the suicide risk.

We have huge increase in suicides, we also
have huge increase in antidepressant use.

I'm not saying there's a causal relationship
between taking them and committing suicide,

but neither am I saying that we've proven
that there's a causal relationship between

So I think there's been a pathologizing
of normal human suffering that is very unhealthy

in my experience and in the experience of
many people that I've worked with and spoken

A dark night of the soul is some of the most
transformative times that we go through in

What's so painful is you have to look at
things that are so painful to look at.