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Uploaded: 2026-02-18T23:06:15.000Z
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Stephen Colbert taking shots at the FCC and his network over the equal time rule.

Stephen Colbert 批評 FCC 和他的電視臺關於公平時間規則的處理。

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Take a listen to what the Late show host said after network lawyers allegedly informed him last minute that he couldn't air an interview with Texas Senate candidate James Talarico.

聽聽這位 Late show 主持人說了什麼，因為電視臺律師據稱在最後一刻告知他不能播出對德州參議員候選人 James Talarico 的訪問。

You know who is not one of my guests tonight?

你知道今晚誰不是我的來賓嗎？

That's Texas State Representative James Talarico.

we were told in no uncertain terms by our network's lawyers who called us directly that we could not have him on the broadcast.

我們接到電視臺律師的明確告知，他們直接打電話給我們，說我們不能讓他上節目播出。

The rules forbid any candidate appearance, including by voice or picture.

規則禁止任何候選人露面，包括聲音或影像。

That's a stock photo we found when we googled not James Tallarico.

那是我們在搜尋「不是 James Talarico」時找到的一張圖庫照片。

He insisted that it was purely a network decision to pull the plug on the interview and gave his thoughts on it.

他堅持說這是電視臺單方面的決定要終止這次訪問，並說出了他的想法。

Carr said he was thinking about dropping the exception for talk shows because he said some of them were motivated by partisan purposes.

Carr 說他正在考慮取消對談話節目的例外規定，因為他說其中有些節目是出於黨派目的。

He hasn't done away with it yet, but my network is unilaterally enforcing it as if he had.

他還沒有廢除它，但我的電視臺卻單方面執行，好像他已經廢除了。

But I want to assure you, ladies and gentlemen, please.

不過，各位女士們先生們，我向各位保證，請聽。

I want to assure you this decision is for purely financial reasons.

我向各位保證，這個決定純粹是出於財務原因。

Colbert also had a specific message from Take a listen, sir.

Colbert 也傳達了一段給這位先生的訊息，請聽。

You're chairman of the fcc, so fccu, because I think you are motivated by partisan purposes yourself, sir.

你是 FCC 的主席，所以是 FCCU，因為我認為你自己也是出於黨派目的。

You are Dutch ovening America's airwaves.

你正在用荷蘭烤箱式操作汙染美國的電波。

Donald Trump's administration wants to silence anyone who says anything bad about Trump on TV because.

川普政府想封殺任何在電視上說川普壞話的人，因為。

This comes as the network continues to experience tension under its new leadership.

就在電視臺領導層換新、持續出現緊張氣氛之際，

Several journalists and even high profile on air talent have obviously left the network.

許多記者甚至高知名度的節目主持人，顯然都離開了電視臺。

And that list now includes another big name.

而這個名單現在又多了一位大咖。

60 Minutes correspondent Anderson Cooper says he will not be renewing his contract with cbs, but

《60 分鐘》的特派員 Anderson Cooper 表示，他不會續約 CBS，但

he didn't identify the network's new direction as a reason.

他並未將電視臺的新方向列為原因。

He instead said in a statement Monday, quote, being a correspondent at 60 Minutes has been one of the great honors of my career.

他在週一的聲明中表示，引述，「擔任《60 分鐘》的特派員是我職業生涯中最光榮的事之一。」

I got to tell amazing stories and work with some of the best producers, editors and camera crews in the business.

我有機會講述很棒的故事，並與業界最頂尖的製作人、編輯和攝影團隊合作。

For nearly 20 years, I've been able to balance my jobs at CNN and cbs, but

將近二十年來，我能在 CNN 和 cbs 的工作之間取得平衡，

I have little kids now and I want to spend as much time with them as possible while they still want to spend time with me.

但我現在有小孩，我希望在他們還願意陪我的時候，盡量多花時間陪他們。

So this is Anderson Cooper no longer being with 60 Minutes at CBS, which most people know him as the host of CNN.

所以這代表 Anderson Cooper 不再和《60 分鐘》合作了，大家大多知道他是 CNN 的主持人。

So I initially saw him like, oh, this is big News.

我一開始看到時，心想，哇，這真是大新聞。

He's just going to do CNN and they're under different management structures for the time being.

他之後只會做 CNN 的工作，而且目前兩家公司有不同的管理架構。

Although obviously Warner Brothers is trying.

雖然 Warner Brothers 顯然正在嘗試。

They're going to try to merge with Paramount, the owners of cbs, so he can go back to his old job if he wants to.

他們正試圖與 cbs 的母公司 Paramount 合併，這樣他如果願意，就可以回去做以前的工作。

First of all, the rules should be enforced or isn't.

首先，規則應該被執行，或者不執行。

我不喜歡這種模糊不清的感覺。

if we're going to have these kinds of rules, they need to be very clear so the networks know who they can follow.

如果我們要制定這類規則，就必須非常清楚，這樣電視臺才知道該遵守誰的規定。

And like this show's a, this talk show, this shows a news show.

而像這個節目，這個談話節目，這個節目是個新聞節目。

什麼，他們連他的照片都不能放。

Now there's these aggressively sensorial rules for the broadcast channels because of limited bandwidth.

現在因為頻寬有限，節目播出有這些非常感官化的嚴格規定。

所以這個 Talarico 的訪談確實播出了。

It just aired on YouTube and on social media, which is where most people are watching news anyway.

它只是在 YouTube 和社群媒體上播出，而現在大部分人都是透過這些管道看新聞的。

So it increasingly seems very antiquated to me that there are these very precise news opinion distinctions.

所以對我來說，這些非常精確的新聞意見區分，越來越顯得過時了。

What you can say equal time, very heavy handed, government mandated rules for the platform that is falling and collapsing that fewer and fewer people are going to watch.

你說公平時間規則，太嚴苛了，政府強制規定這些正在衰落、越來越少人會看的平臺。

而 YouTube 則是個自由奔放的西部世界。

So anyway, I don't really, I don't care for this at all.

總之，我對這點真的、真的不太在意。

這就是長篇大論想表達的意思。

Well, I think what we're seeing is a pattern of the FCC saying something and companies reacting before there's any new, you know, guidance administered that's actually on the books.

嗯，我認為我們看到的是 FCC 說一套，而公司在有任何新的、你知道的、實際寫進法規的指導方針出來之前就做出反應的模式。

And I think people are nervous about the new dynamic that Brandon Carr has created between people who run networks that need FCC approval to get things done like these big mergers and, and

我覺得大家對於 Brandon Carr 所創造的新局面感到緊張，這個局面是介於那些需要 FCC 核准才能完成像是大型合併等事情的網路公司經營者，以及

him kind of saying, well, I'm strong arming without strong arming through the lens of President Trump.

他有點像是說，嗯，我就是在川普總統的視角下，用強硬手段來達成目的，但又不是真的在強硬。

And I feel like that is coming up more often where, well, why would you say that publicly unless you're going to implement it actually?

我覺得這種情況越來越常出現，就是，你為什麼要在公開場合說這些，除非你真的打算實施？

And Stephen Colbert is like, this is not an actual rule yet.

而 Stephen Colbert 就像是，這還不是一條真正的規則。

But I just can't air the interview because my network is scared because they may want to get into a merger soon that's going to benefit them financially.

但我就是不能播出這個訪談，因為我的電視臺很害怕，因為他們可能很快就想進行一個對他們財務有利的合併案。

Because the FCC may say you're subject to the equal time rule, which means you would have to also have on, I guess.

因為 FCC 可能會說你們必須遵守公平時間規則，這表示你們也必須播出，我想。

But I'm not Even see, this is why the rule being unclear is bad.

但我就沒辦法，看吧，這就是規則不明確的壞處。

That means he has to have on Jasmine Crockett because that's the competitor in the primary.

這意味著他必須播出 Jasmine Crockett 的節目，因為她是初選的競爭對手。

Or is it they have to have on Ken Paxton and Cornyn or whoever wins that conflict, or do they wait till that's resolved and then they have to have him on?

還是說他們必須播出 Ken Paxton 和 Cornyn，或是任何贏得那場競爭的人，還是他們要等到那場競爭結束後，才能播出他的節目？

This is why I don't understand, like, Talarico is not yet a candidate running against the Republican because they haven't decided it yet.

這就是為什麼我不懂，像 Talarico 還不是競選共和黨的候選人，因為他們還沒決定。

So the lack of clarity on that aspect of the rules, to me and to cbs, it seems utterly absurd.

所以，這方面規則的不明確，對我跟 CBS 來說，似乎非常荒謬。

And I think that when they bring people on a lot of these shows, the View, Late show, what have you, you're finding the people that are most in the news to have newsworthy conversations.

而且我認為，當他們邀請很多人上這些節目，像是 The View、脫口秀等等，你會發現那些最常出現在新聞裡的人，可以進行有新聞價值的對話。

So Talarico has recently beat out Jasmine Crockett in the polls, even though she saw a huge surge a couple months ago or a couple weeks ago.

所以 Talarico 最近在民調上超越了 Jasmine Crockett，儘管她幾個月前或幾週前還有一波很大的聲勢。

And so it's worth talking about what changed?

所以值得討論的是，是什麼改變了？

Is there a chance that a Democrat could win this type of election in Texas?

在德州，民主黨有機會贏得這種選舉嗎？

在近代史上我們從沒見過這種情況。

So we want to really have these dialogues about, oh, what can change?

所以我們很想來好好聊聊，嗯，到底什麼會改變？

I mean, I'm guessing the Trump administration doesn't want Talarico to be the candidate.

我猜川普政府不希望 Talarico 當候選人。

They want Jasmine Crockett to be the candidate because they think she will be more easily beaten.

他們希望 Jasmine Crockett 當候選人，因為他們覺得她比較容易被打敗。

So they don't want positive interviews of James Talarico where he'll be unchallenged and he'll look good.

所以他們不希望看到對 James Talarico 的正面採訪，讓他不受挑戰，看起來表現很好。

And the FCC probably shouldn't be in that.

I mean, definitely shouldn't be in that conversation at all.

我是說，絕對不該介入這場討論。

我的意思是，他們的職責是他們。

我的意思是，這是一條長期存在的規則。

I would abolish the FCC and just auction the airwaves to the highest bidder is what I would do.

我會廢除 FCC，然後直接將電波拍賣給出價最高者，這是我會做的。

We don't need any regulatory control of this whatsoever.

This is also like having regulatory control over who gets to use the phonograph.

這就像是監管誰可以使用留聲機一樣。

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