Name: 荷莉·貝瑞被告知《擁抱原色》將毀掉她的演藝生涯！| 柯南需要朋友 (Halle Berry Was Told That “Monster’s Ball” Would End Her Career | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend)
Uploaded: 2026-02-17T17:07:05.000Z
Duration: 8 min 22 s

And I know there's a lot that must happen in between, but

我知道中間一定發生了很多事，但是

Jungle Fever、Spike Lee，那是什麼時候發生的？

When I realized I was studying at Second City, and

當我意識到我在 Second City 唸書的時候，然後

one of my teachers there said, you know, you should be an actor.

我在那裡的其中一位老師說，你知道嗎，你應該要當演員。

So when I got this chance to audition for Spike, it was to play his, you know, his girlfriend.

所以當我有機會去給 Spike 試鏡時，是要演他，你知道的，他女友。

And the thing was, you know, pretty girl is his wife.

而那件事是，你知道的， pretty girl 是他老婆。

And I was like, okay, that got me in there.

我就想，好，這樣我就可以進去了。

But when I got to meet Spike, I said, I know you want me to read that, but

但當我見到 Spike 時，我說，我知道你想讓我唸那個，但是

我可以唸 crackhole 那個角色嗎？

I just said, you know, I am really more than the pretty girl.

我只是說，你知道，我真的是不只 pretty girl。

He goes, okay, go in the bathroom, walk, wash all your stuff off, and

他就說，好，去浴室，走進去，把妳的東西都洗乾淨，然後

或許我能把你當成是那個 crack hoe。

So I did that, and I came out, and then I got to audition for that part.

所以我就照做了，然後我出來，接著我就去試鏡那個角色。

然後他就說，妳就是那個 crack ho。

You know, I'm getting crack ho right now.

說真的，我現在就覺得自己是那個 crack ho。

But I also knew if I was going to really be doing this thing, seriously, I felt like I needed to come out of the gate, being more than.

但我也知道，如果我真的要認真做這件事，我覺得我必須一開始就展現出更多。

Speaking of boxes, I did not want to get put in that box.

說到框架，我真的不想被侷限在那個框架裡。

But I think if you look back at the trajectory you already had and what you had been dealing with because you had had to fight all those battles, you're in a situation where most people are just thrilled to be in the Spike Lee movie.

但我覺得，如果你回顧你已經走過的軌跡，以及你一直以來處理的事情，因為你不得不去奮鬥，你現在處於一個大多數人光是能出現在 Spike Lee 的電影裡就已經很開心的情況。

And pretty girlfriend in the Spike Lee movie is just fine.

而且 Spike Lee 電影裡漂亮的女朋友就夠了。

但要處於那種情況，就要說不。

Actually, over there is where I think I need to be director, writer, director, auteur.

事實上，我認為我需要在那個地方成為導演、編劇、導演、作者。

Discomfort, a feeling of being unsettled as a kid.

不適感，小時候一種不安的感覺。

Even if maybe People around you are saying, don't rock the boat.

即使你身邊的人可能會說，別惹麻煩。

You know, this is the part you could have.

你知道，這部分是你本來可以擁有的。

And I knew being a black woman, you know, it's the bottom.

我知道身為一個黑人女性，你知道，這就是最底層。

And you have nothing to lose, only to gain by rocking the boat and demanding more and asking for more and being loud about it.

你沒有什麼好失去的，只有在惹麻煩、要求更多、爭取更多、大聲說出來時才能有所收穫。

You have nothing to lose because you're already at the bottom.

你沒有什麼好失去的，因為你已經在最底層了。

而且我當時真的就是那樣覺得。

It's unbelievable that I'm gonna skip ahead to Monster's Ball, for which you win an Oscar.

我不敢相信我竟然要跳到《 pólvora de ángel 》，這部電影讓你贏得了奧斯卡。

而且那是一個歷史性的奧斯卡。

It is a seminal moment in, like, film history.

這在電影史上，絕對是個開創性的時刻。

When you see that part, do you think this could be huge for me?

當你看到那段演出時，你會不會覺得這對我來說會是個大突破？

Or did you go into it thinking, oh, this is another part I can play and I'm gonna do it?

還是你當時想著，哦，這又是一個我可以演的角色，我會把它演好？

And were you maybe it was hard to see how far this could go.

而且你可能很難想像這部電影的影響力有多大。

I don't think anybody can think, oh, this is gonna be an Oscar.

我覺得沒有人會想說，哦，這部片會得奧斯卡。

I don't know if you think that that's, like, insane, but

不知道你聽起來會不會覺得很瘋狂，但

I felt like this was either gonna be one of the best things I ever did or it would end my career.

我覺得這部片要嘛是我做過最棒的事，要嘛就會毀掉我的演藝生涯。

But that's where I like to live, on that edge of risk.

但這就是我喜歡的生活方式，在冒險的邊緣。

I've known you cannot win big if you don't risk big.

我知道如果不冒大險，就贏不了大。

And if you don't even try, you surely gonna lose.

如果你連試都不試，那肯定會輸。

So people around me said, because at that time, I hadn't done nudity, and

所以我身邊的人都說，因為那時候我還沒演過裸露戲，而且

Like, it was such a big part of that movie that people close to me said, you know, this could really be.

就像，那部電影裡有這麼大一個部分，所以親近我的人就說，你知道，這真的會。

那是一部小小的電影，沒什麼錢。

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