Name: 川普的經濟學家震驚CNN主播！史上最強就業報告出爐 (她超討厭這個) (Trump’s Economist SHOCKS CNN Host with Historic Jobs Report (She Hated This))
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I know the CNN anchor was not happy to have to have Kevin Hassett on to share about a hugely positive jobs report coming out while the Trump administration is in power, because they usually love to come after Kevin Hassett for some questionable numbers, some lack of progress, some problems with the interest rates.

我知道CNN的主播聽到要請Kevin Hassett來分享川普政府時期一份非常正面的就業報告時，臉色不太好看，因為他們平常最喜歡找Kevin Hassett的麻煩，質疑一些數字、批評進展不足，或是關於利率的問題。

過去簡單式

Now there's a real positive story and she had to report on it.

現在出現了一個真實的正面消息，她不得不報導。

And Kevin gives us some more information about the implications of this job report.

Kevin Hassett還會跟我們分享更多關於這份就業報告的影響。

The the AI boom, factories and manufacturing that's being set up as a result of all the tariffs that were put in place to get more jobs and manufacturing and factories back in the United States.

AI的蓬勃發展，以及因為實施關稅以將更多就業、製造業和工廠帶回美國，而正在建立的工廠和製造業。

labor market blew past expectations to start the year, with the economy adding 130,000 jobs last month.

勞動力市場年初表現超出預期，上個月經濟新增了13萬個就業機會。

That is nearly twice as many as expected.

He is the director of the White House National Economic Council.

他是白宮國家經濟委員會的主任。

I know you were glad to be here and that you welcome the higher than expected jobs numbers.

我知道你很高興來到這裡，也歡迎這個高於預期的就業數據。

Yeah, I think that they're, you know, the top line is that there was a lot more private sector job creation.

是的，我認為，你知道，最重要的是私人部門創造了很多就業機會。

And one of the stories that everybody's been worried about, I mean, it's actually a legitimate thing to worry about, is that AI was going to take away people's jobs.

而大家一直在擔心的一個問題，我是說，這確實是個該擔心的問題，就是AI會取代人們的工作。

Well, the top line job number shows that that's not happening.

不過，最上面的就業數字顯示，這並沒有發生。

But the other thing you can see is that prime age labor force participation, which is like people's desire to go get a job, to get back into the workforce, went up to the highest level it's been since 2001.

但另一個你可以看到的是，青壯年勞動力參與率，也就是大家想找工作、重返職場的意願，已經上升到2001年以來的最高點。

And so I think that the AI story needs to be modified a little bit.

所以，我認為AI的故事需要稍微修改一下。

What's happening is AI is increasing productivity and wages and bringing people back into the labor force finally.

現在的情況是，AI正在提高生產力和薪資，並終於讓大家重返勞動力市場。

The interesting thing, too is this all happened while federal government employment went down a lot, about 360,000 over this year, which means that federal government employment is the lowest it's been since 1966, and

有趣的是，這一切都發生在聯邦政府就業大幅減少的情況下，今年減少了約36萬人，這意味著聯邦政府就業是自1966年以來最低的，

the lowest is a share of the overall labor force that it spends ever in all recorded history, which goes back to the Second World War.

而且佔整體勞動力比例是史上最低，有紀錄以來，可以追溯到二次世界大戰。

And you know that the CNN anchor does not like bringing on Kevin Hassett to talk about good jobs numbers because that was one of the main sticking points they had right now was the less than desirable jobs number.

你知道，CNN主播不喜歡請Kevin Hassett來談論好的就業數字，因為他們現在最在意的一點就是不理想的就業數字。

Remember Trump fired that lady who came out with a whole jobs report earlier in the year.

記得川普政府開除了那位今年稍早公佈一份完整就業報告的女士。

So she's not liking doing this interview.

I want to talk to you about that federal labor force here in a moment.

我等一下想跟你聊聊這裡的聯邦勞動力。

I do want to dig into some of the numbers here.

我確實想深入看看這裡的一些數字。

The manufacturing jobs, they increased by about 5,000.

製造業就業，增加了大約五千個。

And I know that you have touted the president's tariffs for the building of factories.

我知道你一直稱讚總統的關稅政策，對於興建工廠有幫助。

Last year, though we did see this decline of 72,000 manufacturing jobs.

不過去年，我們確實看到製造業就業減少了七萬兩千個。

Overall, there were eight consecutive months of manufacturing job losses through December.

總體來說，截至十二月為止，已經連續八個月製造業就業出現流失。

Is it the White House's position that this 5,000 manufacturing job increase is the beginning of a turnaround?

白宮的立場是，這五千個製造業就業的增加，是一個好轉的開端嗎？

Well, you know, what's going on is that one of the other things that we could look at, which I'm sure you like to look into the details too, that the construction employment has gone up a lot.

嗯，你知道，正在發生的事情是，我們可以看看的另一件事，我相信你也很喜歡深入研究細節，那就是建築業就業大幅增加了。

And we've been tracking the groundbreaking of new factories that are happening in part because of the trade deal.

我們一直在追蹤新工廠的動工情況，這部分也是因為貿易協議。

With this report, the government has said no construction.

這份報告顯示，政府說沒有建築業。

Construction was up and construction has been up really significantly since the big beautiful bill passed.

建築業的就業人數增加了，而且自從那個很棒的法案通過後，建築業的就業人數一直大幅增加。

And so I think that our view is that what's happening is their groundbreaking for manufacturing buildings, which are being expensed right now because of the tax bill, and

所以我認為我們的看法是，正在發生的事情是，他們正在為製造業建築物動工，因為稅法，這些建築物現在正在被列為費用，而且

that those jobs are coming and those manufacturing jobs are coming and surely the buildings won't be empty.

這些工作機會正在來臨，這些製造業的就業機會也正在來臨，而且建築物肯定不會是空的。

So are you expecting that then to be a turnaround?

所以你預期那會是一個轉機嗎？

We think that this is, this is a step in a direction that's going to accelerate.

我們認為這是一個會加速發展的方向。

And the reason that we're confident in that is that we can see that the new factory construction is really lifting off, as is the capital spending.

我們之所以對此有信心，是因為我們看到新的工廠建設和資本支出真的在起飛。

So they're not only buying the buildings, building the buildings and hiring construction workers, but

所以他們不只購買建築物、建造建築物並聘請建築工人，

they're also buying the machines that go in the buildings.

他們還購買了將會安裝在建築物裡的機器。

And so once the machines are plugged in, then they'll be hiring the workers as well, which that was the whole point of doing this whole tariff policy so that more production, manufacturing could be initiated, launched and sustained in the United States.

一旦機器接上電源，他們就會聘請工人，這也是實施關稅政策的重點，以便在美國啟動、開展並維持更多的生產和製造。

And now we're seeming to see some of the first steps of that, which again was going to take a long time.

而現在我們似乎看到了一些初步的跡象，這確實需要很長的時間。

I don't know why some people thought that as soon as you put a tariff in now you're going to have a whole production line set up in the United States.

我不知道為什麼有些人認為，只要一實施關稅，美國就會立即建立起整條生產線。

It takes a long time to get something set up, change your production Line change, the shipping of different materials that need to get to that production site.

東西要準備好、改變生產線、運送不同材料到生產地點，這些都需要很長的時間。

Securing a production site building in the United States is not an overnight thing.

在美國找到並建立生產基地絕非一蹴可幾。

And we're starting to see glimpses of it already before we even hit.

而且我們已經開始看到一些初步的跡象了，甚至在我們達到目標之前。

Right after we hit the first year anniversary of Trump getting inaugurated.

I hear you touting the cuts to the federal workforce.

我聽到你大力宣傳削減聯邦政府員工。

They were obviously significant over the last year and certainly in the numbers that we've just seen here.

過去一年這些削減確實很顯著，尤其是在我們剛看到的這些數字裡。

Last night, though, in an interview, President Trump detailed what he called, quote, the one thing he didn't like about the Doge cuts.

不過昨晚，總統川普在一次訪談中，詳細說明瞭他所謂的，他唯一不喜歡的關於削減的「那件事」。

Cut, 10% of your payroll cut, your costs cut.

削減，10%的薪資成本，削減你的開銷。

When you cut, get rid of the people that are doing a lousy job.

裁員的時候，就把那些表現不好的人開除掉。

In other words, take care of the people that are doing a good job.

換句話說，要好好照顧那些表現好的人。

He's saying there he wanted more targeted cuts, which is a.

他說他想要更具體的削減，這是一個。

Yeah, he said, he said that in the Oval to me yesterday, in fact, too, that he was worried that the cuts went too far.

是啊，他昨天在橢圓形辦公室跟我說，他擔心削減的幅度太大了。

But we have the budget space to hire people back.

但我們有預算空間可以再聘請員工回來。

But the other thing that we've looked into is in the counties around D.C.

不過我們也研究了華盛頓特區周邊的郡。

where a lot of these federal workers are affected, that they're being rehired in the private sector at a really impressive rate.

很多聯邦員工在那裡受到影響，但他們在私人部門以非常驚人的速度被重新聘用。

If you've lost them and they had important jobs, I mean, I know you say you can rehire them, but

如果你失去他們了，而且他們原本有重要的工作，我是說，我知道你說你可以再聘請他們回來，但是

I mean, I'm sure maybe some of them, but some of them you can't.

我是說，我確定也許其中一些人可以，但有些你不行。

That's just not going to happen across the board here.

這在這裡根本不可能全面發生。

And a lot of them don't necessarily trust the administration as an employer at this point in time because of how they were treated and the sort of whiplash that they experienced.

而且很多人在這個時間點不一定信任政府作為僱主，因為他們受到的對待以及他們經歷的劇烈變動。

Experienced and how arbitrary it felt to them.

經歷了，而且對他們來說感覺有多隨意。

How many people would you estimate were cut?

How many would you estimate were cut by Doge.

By the Doge efforts that were actually doing a good job, that were not targeted cuts like the President says he wanted.

透過 Doge 的努力，那些實際上做得很好的部門，並非像總統說他想要的針對性裁員。

Yeah, that's a thing that, given that the President has asked about it, that we're definitely.

是的，這件事，鑑於總統已經問過了，我們肯定會。

We've asked the Council of Economic Advisors to give us more precise numbers on that.

我們已經請經濟顧問委員會提供更精確的數字。

But the bottom line, I can say is that by achieving the cuts that we have, then we've permanently, perhaps, maybe not completely permanently, if some people come back, we've reduced federal workers by 360,000 people and that's like almost $30 billion a year in savings.

但我可以說，最重要的結果是，透過達成我們所做的裁員，我們永久地，或許，也許不是完全永久，如果有些人回來的話，我們已經減少了 360,000 名聯邦員工，這大約每年能節省 300 億美元。

And so what President Trump is doing is taking a big step towards getting closer to a balanced budget.

所以川普總統正在採取一大步，朝著更接近預算平衡的目標邁進。

We were in a fiscal situation that was completely out of control when he came into office.

當他上任時，我們的財政狀況完全失控。

And now we've reduced the deficit by about $600 billion this year because of high growth tariff revenue and reducing the federal workforce.

而現在，由於高成長、關稅收入以及減少聯邦勞動力，我們今年已經減少了約 6000 億美元的赤字。

And that kind of fiscal responsibility is something that people have been asking, you know, governments of both parties to do for a long time.

而這種財政責任是人們長期以來一直要求，你知道，兩黨政府都要做的事情。

That's actually a good point that the CNN anchor brought up.

這其實是 CNN 主播提出的好觀點。