Name: 美國人信不過川普來選贏？ (Enten: Americans don't trust Trump to run elections)
Uploaded: 2026-02-04T17:16:38.000Z
Duration: 10 min 42 s

With me now, CNN's chief data analyst, Harry Entin.

現在跟我一起的是 CNN 的資料分析總監 Harry Entin。

He is running the numbers on America's faith in the election system.

他正在分析美國人對選舉制度的信心。

Harry, do Americans trust Donald Trump when it comes to running the elections?

Harry，美國人信任唐納·川普來管理選舉嗎？

No, they trust him about as much as they trust him to be modest.

不，他們信任他的程度，跟信任他會謙虛差不多。

I mean, just take a look at these numbers right here.

我是說，看看這些數字就知道了。

Trump committed to free and fair elections.

What you see is just 43% of Americans actually do believe that Donald Trump is committed to free and fair elections.

你看到的是，只有 43% 的美國人真的相信唐納·川普會致力於公平自由的選舉。

The clear majority, 56%, say no, no, no, no.

明顯的大多數，56%，說不，不，不，不。

They do not believe that Donald Trump is committed to free and fair elections.

他們不相信唐納·川普會致力於公平自由的選舉。

And I will note it is the opposite for the Democratic Party, where you see the majority of Americans believe the Democratic Party is committed to free and fair elections, but

我要說的是，民主黨的情況正好相反，大多數美國人相信民主黨會致力於公平自由的選舉，但是

they do not, do not trust Donald Trump when it comes to his commitment to free and fair elections.

在公平自由的選舉承諾上，他們絕對不相信唐納·川普。

It may be, perhaps, he keeps lying about the 2020 election that he lost.

也許是因為他一直謊稱自己贏了 2020 年的選舉。

What about how independents are seeing this?

無黨派人士又是怎麼看待這件事的呢？

Okay, so you see this majority right here who say that Donald Trump is not committed to free and fair elections independence.

好的，所以你看到這裡的大多數人都說唐納·川普並沒有致力於公平自由的選舉，無黨派人士。

This is a group that Donald Trump has really been struggling with.

這是唐納·川普一直以來都處於掙扎中的一個群體。

And when it comes to his commitment to free and fair elections, they absolutely believe he is not.

在他對公平自由選舉的承諾上，他們絕對相信他沒有。

We're talking about two and three independents say, no, Donald Trump is not committed to free and fair elections.

好的，所以三分之二的無黨派人士說，不，唐納·川普並沒有致力於公平自由的選舉。

Just a third of independents believe that Donald Trump is committed to free and fair elections.

只有三分之一的無黨派人士認為唐納·川普致力於公平自由的選舉。

They will view his current comments very negatively.

他們會非常負面地看待他目前的評論。

And this, of course, just builds upon the.

They're continuing distrust and they're deepening distrust of Donald Trump when it comes to his job for the president overall and specifically to this question, when it comes to his commitment to free and fair elections, if that number doesn't slap you in the face, I don't know what will.

他們對唐納·川普持續的不信任，以及對他擔任總統整體工作，特別是關於他對公平自由選舉的承諾的問題上，不信任感正在加深。如果這個數字沒有讓你警醒，我不知道還有什麼能。

What who do Americans overall trust when it comes to running elections?

總體而言，美國人信任誰來分析數據？

Take the running of elections from the local communities, the local governments, and

把選舉事務從地方社區、地方政府手中收回，

Americans believe that the elections in 2024 that were run in their community were run very well.

美國人認為，在他們社區裡於2024年舉辦的選舉辦得非常好。

We're talking about 69% of Americans say that the elections, in fact, in 2024 were run very well in their community.

我們說的是，有69%的美國人認為，在他們社區裡，2024年的選舉辦得非常好。

Compare that to just 43% of Americans who say that they were run very well in the United States.

相較之下，只有43%的美國人認為，在美國境內，選舉辦得非常好。

This Idea that you're going to take local power away and give it to the federal government is a terrible idea per the American people, when just 22% at this point view the federal government favorably and we have trust levels in the federal government at all time lows.

這個把地方權力收回並交給聯邦政府的想法，對美國人民來說是個糟糕的主意，因為目前只有22%的人對聯邦政府有好感，而我們對聯邦政府的信任度創下歷史新低。

What is fascinating about this is that Republicans have historically said states rights, correct, and

有趣的是，共和黨人過去一直主張州權，對吧？

don't want the federal government involved.

And now we're seeing the president kind of flip this on his head.

而現在我們看到總統有點顛覆了這個想法。

Donald Trump has flipped a lot of things on his head, but

唐納·川普顛覆了很多事情，但是

on this particular issue, the American people are most certainly not with him.

在這個特定的議題上，美國人民絕對不是支持他的。

All right, Harry, Anton, it is a pleasure to see you in person again.

好的，Harry，Anton，很高興能再次見到你們本人。

President Trump is doubling down on his calls to essentially throw out the Constitution, at least parts of it, and

川普總統正在加碼他要求基本上廢除憲法，至少是部分憲法，並且

take over voting operations in more than a dozen states across the country.

接管全國十幾個州的投票作業。

He first, as we talked about yesterday, he first said this on a podcast, and

他首先，就像我們昨天討論的，他首先是在一個Podcast上說的，然後

And he did clarify, it appears, defending his call for Republicans to nationalize elections, saying, here's the quote, the federal government should get involved, at least it appears in the places where he doesn't like how the votes have turned out in the past, like the election he lost in 2020.

而他確實澄清了，看起來是這樣，他為共和黨人要求全國化選舉辯護，他說，引述是這樣說的，聯邦政府應該介入，至少看起來是在那些他不喜歡過去投票結果的地方，像是他在2020年輸掉的選舉。

Look at some of the places that horrible corruption on elections and the federal government should not allow that the federal government should get involved.

看看那些地方，那些糟糕的選舉弊端，而聯邦政府不應該允許，聯邦政府應該介入。

These are agents of the federal government to count the votes.

這些是聯邦政府的官員來計票。

If they can't count the votes legally and honestly, then somebody else should take over.

如果他們不能合法誠實地計票，那就該由別人來接手。

CNN's Kevin Lipchak is at the White House for us with much more.

CNN 的 Kevin Lipchak 在白宮為我們報導更多消息。

it is just so striking to hear the president kind of redouble these calls to nationalize elections, particularly because a few hours beforehand the White House had tried walking it back.

聽到總統又一次呼籲全國化選舉，這真的很令人震驚，特別是幾個小時前白宮還試圖收回這些說法。

And many Republicans said that they didn't agree with the president on this idea, in no small part because the Constitution says that states administer elections, that they're governed, you know, by local municipalities.

而且許多共和黨人表示，他們並不贊同總統的這個想法，很大程度上是因為憲法規定各州管理選舉，是由地方政府來管轄的。

Remember, President Trump first raised this in a podcast interview with Dan Bongino.

請記得，川普總統最初是在 Dan Bongino 的播客訪談中提出這個說法的。

He said that, quote, Republicans ought to nationalize the voting.

他說，引述，「共和黨人應該將投票全國化」。

He called for Republican officials to, quote, take over voting procedures in 15 states, although he didn't name them.

他呼籲共和黨官員，引述，「接管 15 個州的投票程序」，儘管他沒有點名。

When Caroline Levitt, the press secretary, was asked about that yesterday before the president appeared in the Oval Office, she said that he had actually been talking about this pending legislation on Capitol Hill that would require people to produce photo IDs before they registered to vote.

當新聞祕書 Caroline Levitt 在總統出現在橢圓辦公室前，昨天被問到這件事時，她說他其實是在談論國會正在審議的法案，該法案要求人們在登記投票前出示身份證件。

Listen, to what Caroline Levitt said, what does President Trump mean when he says Republicans ought to nationalize voting?

聽聽 Caroline Levitt 的說法，川普總統說共和黨人應該將投票全國化，這到底是什麼意思？

這在實務上看起來會是什麼樣子？

What the president was referring to is the SAVE act, which is a huge common sense piece of legislation that Republicans have supported that President Trump is committed to signing into law during his term.

總統所指的就是 SAVE 法案，這是一項非常符合常識的重大法案，共和黨人一直支持，而川普總統也承諾在他的任期內簽署成為法律。

And he spoke with the speaker directly about that yesterday, about the need to get that bill on the floor for a vote because it provides very common sense measures for voting in our country, such as voter id.

昨天他直接與議長談論了這件事，談論了需要將該法案提交到院會進行投票，因為它為我們國家的投票提供了非常符合常識的措施，例如選民身份證。

Now, President Trump actually made no mention of the SAVE act, either in that podcast interview or in the Oval Office a few hours later.

現在，川普總統在那次播客訪談中，以及幾個小時後在橢圓辦公室，都沒有提到 SAVE 法案。

Instead, he said, quote, I want to see elections, be honest, and

他說，引用，我想看到選舉，老實說，而且

if a state can't run an election, I think the people behind me should do something about it.

如果一個州無法舉辦選舉，我認為在我身後的人應該對此做些什麼。

Referring to the members of Congress who are joining him there in the Oval Office.

指的是在那裡加入總統在橢圓形辦公室的國會議員們。

All of this seems to point to a broader effort by the president to sow distrust in elections, of course, months before the midterms in November.

這一切似乎都指向總統在 11 月期中選舉前幾個月，為了在選舉中散播不信任感所做的更廣泛努力。

All of it, of course, undergirded by his unsubstantiated claims that elections are rigged.

當然，這一切都建立在他未經證實的選舉舞弊說法之上。

Kevin, thank you so much for keeping track of it.

He has long been a top election lawyer in Republican politics.

他長期以來一直是共和黨政治中頂尖的選舉律師。

Warned in 2020 that the GOP was destroying itself by perpetuating Trump's false claims about election fraud.

他警告說，共和黨在2020年透過延續川普關於選舉舞弊的虛假說法，正在摧毀自己。

Trump now saying and doubling down when asked to clarify.

川普現在在被問到要澄清時，說了而且加倍強調。

And his clarity is that he wants Republicans to take over voting in 15 states is what he said.

而他的澄清是，他說他希望共和黨接管15個州的投票。

The White House tried to walk it back, and he essentially said, believe what I said.

白宮試圖收回，而他基本上說，相信我說的話。

He talked about Pennsylvania, specifically Philadelphia, of course, also talking about Atlanta and in Georgia.

他提到了賓夕法尼亞州，特別是費城，當然，也提到了亞特蘭大和喬治亞州。

From your perspective, how bonkers is this or how real could it be?

從你的角度來看，這有多瘋狂，或者有多真實？

They've had lots of opportunities to present evidence to back up with the president's alleging.

他們有很多機會提出證據來支持總統的說法。

And in 64 court cases after the 2020 election, ample opportunities in suits filed before the 2024 elections, no proof, no evidence has come out.

在 2020 年選舉後的 64 起法庭案件中，以及在 2024 年選舉前提起的訴訟中，都有充裕的機會，但沒有拿出任何證據。

You know, it's striking that they would go in and subpoena, do an FBI raid of Fulton county for the 2020 elections, which Trump lost, and

你知道，令人驚訝的是，他們會去搜查、對富爾頓縣進行 FBI 突襲，針對的是川普輸掉的 2020 年選舉，

卻沒有針對他贏得的 2024 年選舉這麼做。

So presumably, even the president recognizes that Fulton county fixed its problems.

所以，我想總統自己也承認富爾頓縣已經解決了它的問題。

So that is that is exactly something that I heard when I had the head of the Fulton County Commission on yesterday.

所以這正是我昨天採訪富爾頓縣委員會主席時聽到的。

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