Name: 保護公共安全還是權力鬥爭？拉哥斯數千棟海濱房屋為何遭摧毀？| DW 新聞 (Public safety or power play: why were thousands of waterfront homes destroyed in Lagos? | DW News)
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Thousands of people in Lagos are homeless after their houses in the waterfront informal settlement Makoko were demolished by the government.

拉哥斯（Lagos）有數千人在馬科科（Makoko）這個水邊非正規聚落的家園被政府拆除後無家可歸。

Authorities say these structures were unsafe and posed a serious risk.

當局表示，這些建築不安全，存在嚴重風險。

But critics insist the government has other motives.

但批評者堅持認為政府另有動機。

Makoko is located on the shores of Lagos Lagoon.

馬科科（Makoko）位於拉哥斯潟湖（Lagos Lagoon）的岸邊。

It is partly made up of floating communities and houses built on stilts.

它部分由浮動社區和高腳屋組成。

The settlement was established more than a hundred years ago.

In a moment, I will be talking to an urban planner about Makoko's future.

稍後，我將與一位都市計畫師討論馬科科（Makoko）的未來。

With Lagos slated to become the most populous city in the world.

拉哥斯（Lagos）預計將成為世界上人口最多的城市。

But first, DW's Amaka Okoye visited the community after the demolitions.

但首先，DW 的 Amaka Okoye 在拆除後走訪了這個社區。

Affected residents told her they've been left stranded without warning.

受影響的居民告訴她，他們在毫無預警的情況下被趕了出來。

At the end of last month, the excavators came and began eating their way through through the wooden houses.

上個月底，怪手來了，開始吞噬這些木屋。

Makoko is a densely populated waterfront settlement in Lagos.

Makoko 是位於 Lagos 的一個人口稠密的水岸聚落。

It is home to hundreds of thousands of people.

But human rights organizations say that by the time the government operation ended on January 23, three of them were dead, including two infants, after authorities used tear gas on residents protesting the demolitions.

但人權組織表示，到了政府行動於一月二十三日結束時，已有三人死亡，包括兩名嬰兒，當時當局對抗議拆遷的居民使用了催淚瓦斯。

Please tell the whole world what is happening.

請告訴全世界正在發生的事情。

This woman says the roof was ripped from her home.

這位女士說，她家的屋頂被掀翻了。

But she has to spend the night here because she has nowhere else to go.

但她別無去處，只能在這裡過夜。

Others were left to salvage whatever could still still be saved before the demolition reached their homes.

其他人則在拆除工程抵達他們家之前，盡力搶救還能保留下來的東西。

Now he's moving the desks to dry land and his belongings to this boat, which has become home for his family.

現在他正把課桌搬到陸地上，把家當搬到這艘船上，這艘船成了他家人的居所。

I spent 10 years, over three years to build this school.

我花了十年，三年多才蓋好這所學校。

This is a structure that accommodates 650 children.

這是一棟可以容納 650 名兒童的建築。

Where we bring them in, we give them food, we teach them how, we drop them back.

我們在這裡接待他們，提供食物，教導他們，然後送他們回家。

When we don't have anywhere to go, they won't give us any letter.

當我們無處可去時，他們不會給我們任何通知。

They don't try to have a meeting with us when we have a relocation plan.

當我們有搬遷計畫時，他們也不會試圖和我們開會。

And the demolitions have destroyed livelihoods too.

All the fish I smoked in my house were destroyed.

我屋子裡所有煙燻的魚都毀了。

I fainted that day and people had to revive me.

那天我昏倒了，還得別人救我。

What you see here was given to me on credit.

你們現在看到的這些，是我賒來的。

Officials insist the clearances were only out of concern for public safety and have hit back at the criticism.

官員們堅持說，清空行動只是出於對公共安全的考量，並反擊了批評。

We're not demolishing the whole of Makoko.

我們不會把整個 Makoko 都拆掉。

We're clearing people to not to get to Third Milan Bridge and to stay off behind the high tension.

我們在清空區域，是為了不讓大家靠近第三米蘭橋，並遠離高壓電線。

But residents understood that there was an agreed 100 meter setback from the power lines and say the demolitions extend well beyond that.

但居民們明白，原本約定好的距離是距離電線 100 公尺，他們說這次拆除行動遠遠超過了這個範圍。

The flag post marks a 100 meter setback from the power line, a boundary which the government says it has repeatedly warned residents not to build beyond.

旗桿標示著距離電線 100 公尺的界線，政府表示他們曾多次警告居民不要越界建造。

It has moved over 200 meters away from the agreed marker.

它已經擴展到距離約定標記超過 200 公尺的地方。

Authorities have not publicly acknowledged any change to the setback distance officials maintain the clearance is guided by safety regulations and planning law around power transmission lines.

當局尚未公開承認後退距離有任何改變，官員們堅持認為，拆除行動是基於高壓輸電線周圍的安全規定和規劃法。

So far, the government has only said that it has plans for those who have been displaced by the demolitions.

到目前為止，政府只表示他們對那些因拆除行動而流離失所的人有計畫。

But with no details on offer, affected residents in Makoko face a very uncertain future.

但由於沒有提供細節，Makoko 受影響的居民面臨著非常不確定的未來。

To talk more about what the future looks like for residents of Makoko, we've invited Stephen Ajadi onto the program.

為了更深入地探討 Makoko 居民的未來會是怎樣，我們邀請了 Stephen Ajadi 來到節目。

He's an architect, urban planner and development economist.

他是建築師、都市規劃師和發展經濟學家。

Dr. Ajadi, the government in Lagos says the demolitions in Makoko are about safety and urban planning.

Ajadi 博士，Lagos 政府表示 Makoko 的拆除行動是出於安全和都市規劃的考量。

From your expertise as an urban planner, was this inevitable?

以您身為都市規劃師的專業，這是不可避免的嗎？

It is a kind of an inevitable process for both the slum area and the government.

這對貧民窟和政府來說，都是一種不可避免的過程。

I mean, it's not the first time they'll be demolishing Marco Courts, but

我的意思是，這不是他們第一次拆除 Marco Courts，但

this is probably one of the first periods time that they've done a very huge chunk of it.

這可能是他們第一次進行如此大規模的拆除。

So historically, I would say it happens in certain social, political cycles.

所以從歷史來看，我會說這會在特定的社會、政治週期中發生。

所以，是的，這有點不可避免。

And as government puts it, the demolition was about structures in the settlement that were built too close to power lines.

而政府的說法是，這次拆除是因為貧民窟裡有些建築物蓋得離電線太近了。

Can you speak more to the safety risk that these transmission lines posed to residents?

你能多說一點關於這些輸電線對居民造成的安全風險嗎？

First of all, I think from the standpoint of government, you must understand the behavior of slums.

首先，我認為從政府的角度來看，你們必須瞭解貧民窟的特性。

They have a kind of extemporaneous sprawl character.

They expand in different directions for different reasons at different times.

它們會在不同時間、因為不同原因，朝不同方向擴張。

And basically, power lines are very dangerous, especially when they span across large water bodies and even small water bodies.

基本上，電線非常危險，尤其當它們跨越大型或小型水體時。

Planners avoid putting residences near power lines.

規劃者也會避免在電線附近蓋房子。

所以，這確實是個嚴重的健康風險。

Some people will say it's a huge life risk.

有些人會說，這根本是危及生命的風險。

Now, Makoko, we're talking about a place that's more than 100 years old and it's been growing as an informal settlement.

現在，Makoko，我們說的是一個超過百年歷史、並且作為非正式聚落不斷擴張的地方。

And you really get the sense if you've been there, that residents have adapted to living on water.

如果你去過那裡，你真的會感覺到居民已經適應了在水上生活。

但是這個社區可以持續下去嗎？

Can people live there as they do now for another hundred years?

人們能像現在這樣在那裡生活再過一百年嗎？

But in the argument is if they can, in the same manner that they are doing now.

但爭論點在於，他們是否能以現在這種方式生活。

Because Makoko has existed for the better part of 172 years.

因為 Makoko 已經存在了將近 172 年。

它的密度大約是 Lagos 的 15 倍。

我是說，最令人印象深刻的部分。

The impressive part of Mahoko is the sustainability of the culture.

Makoko 最令人印象深刻的是文化的永續性。

It has demonstrated a huge resilience in terms of the culture people.

它在文化和人們方面展現了巨大的韌性。

I think that Makoko as a place has evolved over different cycles of urbanity that Lagos has experienced.

我覺得 Makoko 這個地方，隨著 Lagos 經歷了不同階段的都市發展，它本身也跟著演變。

But I think we are at peak times of urbanization.

但我覺得我們正處於都市化的巔峰時期。

However, Makoko must not be victimized in this process.

不過，在這個過程中，Makoko 不能成為犧牲品。

Because let us not be mistaken, Makoko is undergoing a process of change.

因為我們不要搞錯了，Makoko 正在經歷一個轉變的過程。

All cities on the planet are undergoing a process of change.

地球上所有的城市都在經歷一個轉變的過程。

How we value that change and how we go about embodying that change is quite important.

我們如何看待這個轉變，以及我們如何去實踐這個轉變，這點非常重要。

They can stay there for another hundred years.

However, the systems of their current living dynamics has to drastically change.

然而，他們目前生活動態的系統，必須有大幅度的改變。

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