Name: 美國CIA駁斥俄羅斯說法：烏克蘭無人機攻擊普丁住家，美媒報導 | DW 新聞 (US CIA debunks Russia claim that Ukrainian drones attacked Putin’s home, says US media | DW News)
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US Media reports say the CIA has concluded there is no evidence that Ukraine targeted one of Russian President Vladimir Putin's residences with drones.

美國媒體報導指出，中央情報局（CIA）已認定沒有證據顯示烏克蘭曾以無人機攻擊俄羅斯總統普丁的住所。

Moscow's released footage that it says shows a drone used in the attack.

莫斯科公佈了一段影像，聲稱顯示了攻擊中所使用的無人機。

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But according to reports, America's Central Intelligence Agency determined that that drone activity was aimed at a military site.

但根據報導，美國中央情報局判定該無人機活動是針對軍事地點。

Donald Trump initially said he was very angry about the alleged Ukrainian action, but

唐納·川普最初表示對這項所謂的烏克蘭行動非常憤怒，但

news reports say he has said he has voiced doubts since.

新聞報導指出，他後來表示已表達質疑。

Since receiving a CIA briefing, Ukraine has consistently denied targeting the Russian leader's residents.

自從收到中央情報局的簡報後，烏克蘭一直否認曾攻擊俄羅斯領導人的住所。

Let's see what this means with our Russia analyst Konstantin Eggert, who joins us from the Lithuanian capital, Vilnius.

我們來聽聽俄羅斯分析師康斯坦丁·艾格特怎麼說，他從立陶宛首都維爾紐斯加入我們。

Where do you think this reported CIA intelligence leaves those Russian claims?

你認為這份中央情報局的報導，對俄羅斯的說法有什麼影響？

And having here, it leaves those claims where they are or were from the beginning.

而且這樣一來，這些說法就維持在原本的狀態，或者說從一開始就是如此。

And even if you look at, let's say, Prime Minister Modi of India and the Pakistani leadership that expressed some kind of sympathy with Putin, it was all very carefully worded like alleged attack and things like that.

即使你看看，比如說，印度總理莫迪和巴基斯坦領導層，他們對普丁表達了某種程度的同情，但措辭都非常小心，像是「所謂的攻擊」之類的。

I do not think that anyone, including in the US Believed that this is true.

我不認為任何人，包括美國，會相信這是真的。

Moreover, the Russians, the Russian General Staff said on that same day that there were.

更何況，俄羅斯，俄羅斯總參謀部在那天也說了。

I forgot whether it was 80 drones or something like that that were launched by Ukrainians against Russia.

我忘了是80架無人機還是什麼的，是烏克蘭發動攻擊俄羅斯的。

So essentially, before this claim was made by the Russian Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov, the number of drones did not correspond to the 91 drones that were allegedly targeting Putin's residents.

所以基本上，在俄羅斯外交部長拉夫羅夫提出這個說法之前，無人機的數量與所謂針對普丁住所的91架無人機並不相符。

So even inside the Russian system, there was no coordination.

所以即使在俄羅斯體系內部，也沒有協調。

So my suspicion, Phil, is that it was an impromptu sort of idea to pressure the U.S.

所以我的猜測是，菲爾，這是一個臨時起意的想法，目的是向美國施壓。

ukrainian delegations, or talks, rather, in the direction of less results and more chaos.

烏克蘭代表團，或者說談判，結果更少，混亂更多。

So I think it's a PR disaster, frankly, for the Russians.

所以我認為，坦白說，這對俄羅斯來說是一場公關災難。

But it does seem foolhardy to launch such a disprovable claim.

但提出這樣一個容易被戳穿的說法，似乎有點魯莽。

You, you know, America has got satellites and spies all over the place.

你知道，美國到處都有衛星和間諜。

It surely would have occurred to someone in the Kremlin that at some stage someone would go, no, that's just nonsense.

克里姆林宮裡肯定有人會想到，總有一天會有人說，這根本是胡說八道。

And you know, Phil, interestingly enough, Russian opposition media based outside of Russia, of course, they immediately said it's verifiable in a matter of half an hour, whether this claim is correct or not.

而且你知道，菲爾，有趣的是，俄羅斯境外的一些反對派媒體，他們立刻就說，半小時內就能查證這個說法是否屬實。

But I think that indeed those sort of produced this idea and convinced Putin to, and

但我認為確實是那些人催生了這個想法，並說服了普丁，

at least his closest town to rush to air it.

至少是他的親信，急著把它公佈出來。

These people actually are working towards the chief because Putin's entourage, Putin's environment resembles a medieval court.

這些人實際上是在為首長工作，因為普丁的隨從、普丁的周遭環境，就像一個中世紀的宮廷。

And I think that the feeling in Moscow at the time was that the US Ukrainian talks are not going in Russia's favor, and

而且我認為當時莫斯科的感覺是，美烏之間的談判對俄羅斯不利，

as with many Russian improvisations, it was disastrous and completely not believable.

就像許多俄羅斯的即興演出一樣，這場鬧劇是災難性的，而且完全不可信。

And now we have the spectacle of Donald Trump sharing a news article on social media that was very critical of Vladimir Putin.

現在我們看到唐納·川普在社群媒體上分享了一篇嚴厲批評俄羅斯總統普丁的新聞報導。

And the article calling for more pressure on Russia.

報導呼籲對俄羅斯施加更多壓力。

這在俄羅斯那邊引起了什麼樣的反應？

Well, frankly, it's quite a sleepy day because of the 1st of January, so not much official reaction to that.

嗯，坦白說，因為是 1 月 1 日，所以是個相當平靜的日子，官方沒有太多回應。

And frankly speaking, I do not think that the official reaction will follow because it's going to disrupt and basically undermine Russia's plans to continue cajoling Donald Trump into keeping some kind of at least conversation with the Kremlin.

坦白說，我不認為官方會有什麼回應，因為這將會打斷並破壞俄羅斯說服唐納·川普繼續與克里姆林宮保持某種對話的計畫。

I think if you look at 2026, this is the number one task for the Kremlin, not to have Donald Trump disengage from Moscow and launch a new wave of potentially extremely hurtful sanctions.

我認為如果看看 2026 年，這對克里姆林宮來說是頭號任務，那就是不能讓唐納·川普與莫斯科脫鉤，並發動新一輪可能極具殺傷力的制裁。

And when the holidays are over, when the festive days are over, the Russians will try to pretend that, you know, everything's hunky door, everything's fine.

節日結束後，當慶祝的日子過去，俄羅斯人會試圖假裝一切都很好，一切都沒問題。

We are going back to business as usual, discussing the discussions about the discussions that may lead to some kind of peace deal.

我們將回到老樣子，討論關於可能達成某種和平協議的討論的討論。

And so does that mean that those discussions about discussions about discussions have actually had a lot of play, a lot of airtime there in Russia, because we've talked about it nonstop over on this side.

那麼，這是否意味著關於討論的討論的討論在俄羅斯那邊確實引起了很多關注，很多討論空間，因為我們這邊一直在不間斷地談論它。

I wonder how it's been covered over in, over there.

Well, you see, Phil, the coverage by the state media, we're talking about how it is officially spinned in Russia was very clearly much more, let's say it embellished much more.

你看，菲爾，國營媒體的報導，我們談論的是在俄羅斯官方如何詮釋它，很明顯，可以說，它被大大地潤飾了。

What's been happening compared to, say, our coverage?

與我們的報導相比，發生了什麼？

It was always the idea that essentially the Americans and the Russians are very close to agreement.

一直以來的想法是，基本上美國人和俄羅斯人非常接近達成協議。

The problem is a, the Ukrainians who are intransigent and who do not want a deal, and

問題是，烏克蘭人很固執，他們不想要協議，

the Europeans who are kind of prodding and pushing the Ukrainians to be bellicose.

歐洲人有點在慫恿和推動烏克蘭人變得好戰。

It was always played out as if Russia and America already more or less have an understanding.

一直以來，這件事都被描繪成俄羅斯和美國之間已經差不多有默契了。

And the fault is with the Ukrainians and the Europeans.

而錯就在烏克蘭人和歐洲人身上。

And I think that this game will continue at least for some time, because I do not think that Putin has actually any other game to play, unless he just wants to say, I'm not interested in talks, but

我認為這個遊戲至少還會持續一段時間，因為我不認為普丁還有什麼其他牌可打，除非他只想說，我對談判沒興趣，但

then it will create a completely different situation.

那樣就會造成一個完全不同的局面。

DW的俄羅斯分析師，康斯坦丁·艾格特。