Name: 澤倫斯基表示願意解除頓巴斯武裝！DW新聞 (Zelenskyy says he is open to demilitarizing the Donbass | DW News)
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Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says he's willing to withdraw troops from the country's eastern industrial heartland as part of a plan to end Russia's war.

烏克蘭總統澤倫斯基表示，他願意從該國東部工業重鎮撤軍，作為結束俄羅斯戰爭計畫的一部分。

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But he says Moscow must also pull back to create a demilitarized zone.

但他表示，莫斯科也必須撤退，以建立一個非軍事區。

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The 20 point framework was reached during talks between US and Ukrainian negotiators in Florida.

這份20點框架是在美國和烏克蘭談判代表於佛羅裡達舉行的會談中達成的。

But there are still key details to be worked out and Moscow has yet to approve the plan.

但仍有一些關鍵細節需要敲定，而且莫斯科尚未準許這項計畫。

US and Ukrainian negotiators have agreed on a new 20 point peace plan, a reworking of a 28 point plan seen as too favorable to Moscow.

美國和烏克蘭談判代表已同意一項新的20點和平計畫，這是一項對莫斯科過於有利的28點計畫的修改。

Diplomatic efforts haven't stopped Russia from launching fresh attacks on Ukraine over the holiday period, which lent an angry tone to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's Christmas address.

外交努力並未阻止俄羅斯在假期期間對烏克蘭發動新的攻擊，這使得總統澤倫斯基的聖誕演說帶有憤怒的語氣。

Joy is not brought by bright illuminations, but

喜悅不是來自明亮的燈光，而是

simply by light, the light in our homes and within us.

僅僅來自光，我們家中以及我們內心的光。

And we are happy when we hear Christmas music, but

當我們聽到聖誕音樂時，我們會感到高興，但

even more so when we do not hear the music of evil, when we do not hear the drones and missiles flying overhead.

更甚者是當我們聽不到邪惡的音樂時，當我們聽不到頭頂上飛過的無人機和飛彈時。

S backed peace proposal are that Ukraine's sovereignty will be reaffirmed, Russia and Ukraine will sign a non aggression agreement, and

平計畫主要內容是重申烏克蘭的主權，俄羅斯和烏克蘭將簽署互不侵犯協議，

nATO and European countries will provide Ukraine with security guarantees that mirror Article 5 of NATO's mutual defence clause.

北約和歐洲國家將向烏克蘭提供安全保障，類似於北約共同防禦條款的第五條。

Ukraine will also maintain its armed forces at their present strength of 800,000 troops.

烏克蘭也將維持其現有的八十萬兵力。

But sensitive issues remain unresolved, such as territorial control in Ukraine's eastern industrial heartland, along with the management of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.

但敏感問題仍未解決，例如烏克蘭東部工業重鎮的領土控制權，以及札波羅熱核電廠的管理。

Moscow says Putin has been briefed on the latest reworking.

莫斯科表示普丁已獲報最新修訂內容。

Based on the information received by the head of state, we now intend to formulate our further position and continue our contact in the very near future through the existing channel currently in operation.

根據國家元首收到的資訊，我們現在打算擬定進一步的立場，並在不久的將來透過現有運作中的管道繼續聯繫。

Moscow rejected calls for a Christmas truce.

莫斯科拒絕了聖誕停火的呼籲。

That hasn't stopped people in Kyiv from putting on a festive display despite the ongoing attacks and the power outages.

但這並未阻止基輔民眾在持續的攻擊和停電中，仍舊展現節慶氣氛。

You see, everything is beautiful and brightly lit.

你看，一切都很漂亮，燈火通明。

We have flight for three hours and I think about what to cook, how to dress, what to wash for tomorrow.

我要飛三個小時，然後想著明天要煮什麼、穿什麼、洗什麼。

Although Ukraine, like Russia, is predominantly Orthodox, in 2023 it switched the official celebration of Christmas to December 25, part of an official campaign to distance itself from Russian influence and traditions.

雖然烏克蘭和俄羅斯一樣，主要都是東正教國家，但他們在2023年將聖誕節的官方慶祝改到了12月25日，這是官方運動的一部分，旨在與俄羅斯的影響和傳統劃清界線。

Let's now speak to DW special correspondent Nimisha Jaiswal and she joins us from Kyiv.

接下來我們請DW特派記者 Nimisha Jaiswal 加入我們，她從基輔連線。

Nemesha, another wartime Christmas in Ukraine.

Nemisha，烏克蘭又迎來了一個戰時的聖誕節。

Can you give us more of a picture of the mood there?

你能為我們描繪一下那裡的氣氛嗎？

Well, Tommy, in many ways it's like Christmas anywhere else.

嗯，Tommy，很多方面跟其他地方的聖誕節都差不多。

There's caroling, there are festive markets like we saw in that report.

有唱聖誕頌歌，也有像剛才報導裡看到的節慶市集。

There are cakes of all kinds available in the cafes here in Kiev.

在基輔這裡的咖啡廳，到處都買得到各式各樣的蛋糕。

But of course, the shadow of the war is never too far.

但當然，戰爭的陰影從來沒有離我們太遠。

We have all these generators roaring all the time to keep up that festive mood.

我們有這些不斷運轉的發電機，來維持節慶的氣氛。

Even as apartments and residential buildings remain dark thanks to continuing power outages, there are reels online saying on Christmas my neighbor sent to me missiles and drones and short enough this morning in Kiev, the alarm went off at 3am and at 6am on Christmas morning there were alerts across the country as well.

即使公寓和住宅大樓因為持續的停電而一片漆黑，網路上卻有影片說，聖誕節那天我的鄰居送給我飛彈和無人機，而且今天早上在基輔，凌晨三點就響起了警報，聖誕節當天早上六點，全國各地也都有警報。

And President Zelensky had warned to expect holiday time attacks after Moscow rejected a Christmas time truce.

澤倫斯基總統曾警告，在莫斯科拒絕聖誕節休戰後，預計會有假期攻擊。

And this continues to influence the mood over here and last evening as well.

這也持續影響著這裡，以及昨晚的心情。

In his address, President Zelensky said to the nation that there is a tradition of putting out a wish on Christmas and all Ukrainians might wish, may he perish, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

在他的演說中，澤倫斯基總統告訴全國人民，聖誕節有個許願的傳統，而所有烏克蘭人可能會許願「願他滅亡」，指的是俄羅斯總統普丁。

But he said Ukrainians must also come together for a greater wish, which is a wish for peace and a wish for togetherness.

但他說，烏克蘭人也必須為了更大的願望團結起來，那就是和平的願望，以及團結的願望。

And one element Ukrainians will be considering is President Zelensky's 20 point peace plan.

而烏克蘭人會考慮的一個要素是澤倫斯基總統的20點和平計畫。

Well, it's worth pointing out here that Ukrainians don't necessarily follow each and every step and development in these peace plans and these negotiations.

嗯，這裡值得一提的是，烏克蘭人並不一定會緊盯著這些和平計畫和談判中的每一個步驟和發展。

We have to remember that these have been going on throughout this year as alongside with Russian attacks on the country.

我們必須記住，這些談判一直在進行，同時俄羅斯也持續對這個國家發動攻擊。

So there is a bit of skepticism when it comes to how quickly these things will actually come to fruition.

所以，對於這些事情能多快實現，大家會有點懷疑。

But there are broad trends that can be commented on.

In a recent poll, it showed that 75% of Ukrainians reject the Russian version of the plan, especially the aspect of a Ukrainian withdrawal from the Donbass.

在最近的一項民意調查中顯示，75%的烏克蘭人拒絕俄羅斯的計畫版本，特別是烏克蘭從頓巴斯撤軍的這部分。

There has been concessions too, of course.

Ukrainians have broadly agreed to de facto recognition of the front line.

烏克蘭人大致同意事實上承認前線的現狀。

But the main demand is security guarantees, which this 20 point peace plan does outline.

但主要的訴求是安全保障，而這份20點和平計畫確實概述了這一點。

But it's also interesting to see that most Ukrainians do not expect this war to end anytime soon.

不過，也很有趣的是，大多數烏克蘭人並不認為這場戰爭會很快結束。

The same poll that I referred to showed that that a third of Ukrainians do not expect this war to end in 2026 at all.

我提到的同一份民調顯示，有三分之一的烏克蘭人完全不認為這場戰爭會在 2026 年結束。

So even as these negotiations continue on the ground here, there is a fair amount of skepticism because Russia is not seen as being anywhere close to agreeing to any of the concessions or the agreements that Ukraine is offering.

所以，即使這些談判在這裡持續進行，大家還是抱持著相當大的懷疑，因為俄羅斯並沒有表現出要同意烏克蘭提出的任何讓步或協議的跡象。

President Zelensky has said he's open to establishing a demilitarized zone in eastern Ukraine.

總統澤倫斯基表示，他願意在烏克蘭東部建立一個非軍事區。

Do we know what that would look like practically now?

我們現在知道這實際上會是什麼樣子嗎？

There has been more and more details emerging, the most clear outline, of course, coming out yesterday.

越來越多的細節出現了，最清晰的輪廓當然是昨天公佈的。

But Zelensky has been hinting on an openness to the Special Economic Zone, perhaps as a concession to the US And President Donald Trump, who has been pushing for Ukraine withdrawal from the Donbass.

不過澤倫斯基一直暗示他對設立經濟特區持開放態度，這或許是為了向美國和總統唐納·川普做出讓步，川普一直在推動烏克蘭從頓巴斯撤軍。

Now, more specifically, Zelensky has said if Ukraine pulls back 5, 5 km, Russia must pull back 5 km, 10 km, 40 km.

現在，更具體地說，澤倫斯基表示，如果烏克蘭後撤 5 公里，俄羅斯就必須後撤 5 公里、10 公里、40 公里。

These are the three numbers that he gave that if Ukraine pulls back that much, Russia must also match that pullback, that any demilitarized zone must be monitored by Ukrainian police.

這些是他提出的三個數字，如果烏克蘭後撤這麼多，俄羅斯也必須跟進，任何非軍事區都必須由烏克蘭警方監督。

He rejects Russian police monitoring the zone and he has also said that that any such agreement must be put to a referendum or be passed by parliament.

他拒絕俄羅斯警方監督該區域，他也說任何這樣的協議都必須經過公投或由國會通過。

This will also, also, of course, be hard to pull off.

There are concerns amongst Ukrainian people about such a referendum being carried out at all.

烏克蘭人民對於是否要進行這樣的公投感到擔憂。

But Zelensky has said that any There are two options on the table.

但澤倫斯基說，桌上有兩個選項。

Either the war continues or we talk about potential economic zones.

要嘛戰爭繼續，要嘛我們談論潛在的經濟特區。

DW special correspondent Nimisha Jaiswal from Kyiv, thank you for that update.

DW駐基輔特派記者 Nimisha Jaiswal，謝謝妳的最新消息。