Name: 伊甸園之東 | 電影背後的意義 (East of Eden | The Meaning Behind The Film)
Uploaded: 2025-08-18T18:33:56.000Z
Duration: 14 min 51 s

Right now we are in Toronto, Canada at Buffer Festival.

現在我們正在加拿大多倫多參加 Buffer Festival。

Last night we screamed East of Eden to a live audience at the Elkin Theatre, and we're super happy to share our film with you, all of you around the world, right now.

昨晚，我們在埃爾金劇院向現場觀眾放映了《伊甸園之東》，我們非常高興現在能與你們，全世界的觀眾分享我們的電影。

We're going to be releasing a behind-the-scenes of the whole experience at Buffer Festival, but what we want to do now that the video is online is give you a little bit of background on to the meaning behind the film because there's a lot going on there.

我們將在 Buffer Festival 上發佈整個體驗的幕後花絮，但現在視頻已經上線，我們想做的是給大家介紹一下這部電影背後的意義，因為裡面發生了很多事情。

It's definitely a departure from what we've made before.

這絕對不同於我們之前的作品。

It's a narrative, a short fictional film.

So if you haven't watched it, stop what you're doing and watch East of Eden first.

所以，如果你還沒看過這部電影，請停下手頭的工作，先看看《伊甸園之東》。

For those of you who have seen it, let's get into the meaning behind the story.

對於看過這部電影的人來說，讓我們來了解一下故事背後的意義。

This is pretty much like a director's cut.

We wanted to sit down with you and have an informal chat about the symbolism behind the film, how we did it.

我們想和你坐下來，非正式地聊聊這部電影背後的象徵意義，以及我們是如何做到的。

First and foremost, we wanted to do something completely different from our normal travel vlogs and our travel tips, and we wanted to try to push ourselves creatively and cinematically to do something that we have never done before.

首先，我們想做一些與我們的普通旅行視頻和旅行攻略完全不同的東西，我們想嘗試在創意和電影方面推動自己，做一些我們以前從未做過的事情。

In order to do that, we reached out to my good friend Carlos Mason, who is a cinematographer.

為此，我們找到了我的好朋友卡洛斯-梅森，他是一名攝影師。

We went to high school together, and his good friend Shelby Menzer.

我們是高中同學，還有他的好朋友謝爾比-門澤。

Basically, they helped us capture East of Eden in a way that we wouldn't have been able to do on our own.

基本上，他們幫助我們捕捉了 "伊甸園之東"，而這是我們自己無法做到的。

Obviously, we were on motorcycles for almost six days to capture the entire film, but it was kind of like a homage to the eastern Sierra Nevadas and a homage to the place that we grew up, but in a way that touches on some of the themes that are affecting the world in 2017.

顯然，為了拍攝整部影片，我們騎了將近六天的摩托車，但這就像是向內華達山脈東部致敬，向我們成長的地方致敬，同時也觸及了 2017 年影響世界的一些主題。

It was really a marriage of two different ideas we had.

這其實是我們兩個不同想法的結合。

Alex really wanted to go to Sierra Nevada.

亞歷克斯非常想去內華達山脈。

He also really wanted to do something about motorcycles.

We both did, and motorcycles really are a thing that brings both of us together, even when we fight and argue as brothers do.

我們倆都是如此，摩托車確實讓我們倆走到了一起，即使我們像兄弟一樣爭吵不休。

I personally wanted to do something that was speaking to the division around the world right now and how travel can be a unifying force to combat that division.

我個人想做的事情，是針對目前世界上的分裂，以及旅行如何能成為消除分裂的團結力量。

It can be a bridge between different cultures.

它可以成為連接不同文化的橋樑。

We founded Vagabrothers on the premise that travel could create a meaningful conversation between people of different cultures by basically teaching people to appreciate the differences between us.

我們創辦 Vagabrothers 的前提是，旅行可以在不同文化背景的人之間創造有意義的對話，從根本上教會人們欣賞我們之間的差異。

That's something that we realized in 2017 is not just important between cultures, but within them, especially here in the United States where there's red states, there's blue states, there's people who are not talking to each other because of politics, especially down to the familial level between parents and their kids and between brothers and sisters.

我們在 2017 年意識到，這一點不僅在不同文化之間很重要，在不同文化內部也很重要，尤其是在美國，這裡有紅州，也有藍州，人們因為政治而互不交談，尤其是在家庭層面，父母和孩子之間，兄弟姐妹之間。

We really decided to take our idea and try to bring it down to the most personal level.

我們真的決定將我們的想法付諸實踐，並嘗試將其落實到最個人化的層面。

In the movie, we play fictional brothers, exaggerated versions of ourselves that don't talk, and we use the brothers to symbolize America as a whole, which we say in the film are like family members who no longer talk.

在電影中，我們扮演的是虛構的兄弟，誇張的自己，不會說話，我們用這對兄弟來象徵整個美國，我們在電影中說美國就像不再說話的家庭成員。

This is a theme that's happening everywhere across the world, the urban and rural divide and how the community within a country is just being drawn further and further apart as cities grow closer and closer together.

這是一個在世界各地都在發生的主題，即城市和農村的鴻溝，以及隨著城市越來越近，一個國家內部的社區是如何被越拉越遠的。

It feels like the rural areas of many countries are slipping away from their counterparts, their brothers and sisters in the city.

感覺上，許多國家的農村地區正在遠離他們的同行，遠離他們在城市的兄弟姐妹。

That was one of the themes during the film, and that's the set up to the next part of the film, which is the first movement, if you will, on the journey back to nature.

這是影片的主題之一，也是影片下一部分的鋪墊，可以說是迴歸自然之旅的第一樂章。

That was a really exciting place for us to film.

對我們來說，那是一個非常令人興奮的拍攝地。

The second section, the second act is in the Mojave Desert, and California... a lot of people, when they think of California, they think of palm trees and beaches, and although a lot of California is that, there's this whole other side to California, East Side, East of Eden, if you will.

第二部分，第二幕是在莫哈韋沙漠，而加利福尼亞......很多人一提到加利福尼亞，就會想到棕櫚樹和海灘，雖然加利福尼亞很多地方都是這樣，但加利福尼亞還有另一面，可以說是 "伊甸園之東"。

That's kind of what we played off of for the titling, and I'll let you take that away because I know that you love John Steinbeck, the author of East of Eden, so please.

這也是我們取名的靈感來源，我會讓你把它帶走，因為我知道你喜歡《伊甸園之東》的作者約翰-斯坦貝克（John Steinbeck），所以拜託了。

East of Eden is a book by John Steinbeck.

伊甸園之東》是約翰-斯坦貝克的著作。

He really came into prominence in the 1930s during the Great Depression.

他真正嶄露頭角是在 20 世紀 30 年代大蕭條時期。

East of Eden is a story about two brothers, kind of based loosely on the story of Cain and Abel and the book of Genesis.

伊甸園之東》講述的是一對兄弟的故事，故事大致取材於該隱和亞伯的故事以及《創世紀》。

The story started there with the idea that when you think of California, people think of this Eden, this coastal Eden, but there's another side to it.

故事的開頭是這樣的：一提到加利福尼亞，人們就會想到這個伊甸園，這個沿海伊甸園，但它還有另一面。

That kind of plays into the idea of people who live in the city, such as the characters, trying to discover what else there is beyond what they usually associate with their home, California.

這與影片中的主角等生活在城市中的人們試圖發現自己的家鄉加利福尼亞以外的世界的想法不謀而合。

And the desert is such an integral part of what California is, and especially in this part of the Mojave Desert, there's a lot of abandoned ghost towns.

沙漠是加州不可分割的一部分，尤其是在莫哈韋沙漠的這一部分，有很多廢棄的鬼城。

There was a mining boom in the 1800s, and tons of people moved there trying to strike it rich.

19 世紀曾出現過採礦熱潮，大量的人搬到那裡試圖發財致富。

It was really founded on this belief of being able to change your destiny and to strike it rich.

它確實是建立在這種能夠改變命運、發家致富的信念之上的。

There are tons of these mining towns that kind of boom towns, and when the mining dried up, the people moved away, but they left this skeleton of civilization.

這裡有數不清的礦業小鎮，它們是繁榮的城鎮，當礦業枯竭時，人們就搬走了，但卻留下了文明的骨架。

That was a really interesting kind of....

In the film, you start in the urban hive, if you will, where everyone's uber-connected, and you're on your phone, yet isolated, connected, yet isolated, part of the city, but feelings of being alone.

在影片中，你從城市的蜂巢開始，如果你願意的話，在那裡每個人都是超級聯網的，你在玩手機，但又與世隔絕，聯網，但又與世隔絕，是城市的一部分，但又感到孤獨。

And the transition through this skeletal settlement like the bones of civilization, what happens when people move away, and the cities start to decay.

當人們搬走後，城市開始衰敗，這種骸骨式定居點的過渡就像文明的骸骨一樣。

For me, that was cinematically one of the most interesting parts of the film.

對我來說，這是電影中最有趣的部分之一。

I really enjoyed capturing it, even though we were spending multiple days in 110 degree Fahrenheit heat on our motorcycles, riding around through the desert, trying to get to the places to capture those moments.

我非常享受拍攝的過程，儘管我們在華氏 110 度的高溫下騎著摩托車在沙漠中穿梭了好幾天，試圖到達能捕捉到這些瞬間的地方。

The places that we visited in this film are the places that are usually the red part of California.

我們在這部影片中參觀的地方通常都是加利福尼亞的紅色部分。

In the last election, they voted for Donald Trump, while the majority of California voted for Hillary Clinton.

在上次大選中，他們把票投給了唐納德-特朗普，而加州的大多數人則把票投給了希拉里-克林頓。

But to consider California as a monolithic whole is false.

但是，將加利福尼亞視為一個整體是錯誤的。

There are all types of people within California, and this part of the state is often overlooked.

加利福尼亞州有各種類型的人，而這部分人往往被忽視。

In the United States, people often refer to everything between New York and Los Angeles as the flyover states, which is really unfortunate.

在美國，人們經常把紐約和洛杉磯之間的所有地方稱為天橋州，這實在令人遺憾。

What we were trying to show is that this place, which usually we have sped past on the way to Mammoth Mountain, which is the big ski resort in California.

我們想說明的是，這個地方通常是我們在去往加州大型滑雪勝地猛獁山的路上飛馳而過的。

We wanted to really go on a motorbike and go slowly and go to every single place there and see what the stories are.

我們想騎著摩托車，慢慢地走遍那裡的每一個地方，看看有什麼故事。

And the stories that we found in these places are really telling as a whole of the United States.

我們在這些地方發現的故事確實能說明美國的整體情況。

Randsburg, an old mining town which was abandoned.

蘭茲堡（Randsburg），一個被遺棄的古老礦業小鎮。

This is kind of a way of nodding towards the economic dislocation that's happening in the rust belt of the United States.

這也算是對美國 "鐵鏽地帶 "經濟失調的一種迴應。

Old factory towns that have been displaced by globalization and automation and just the general shifting patterns of the economy.

由於全球化和自動化的發展，以及經濟模式的普遍轉變，古老的工廠小鎮已被淘汰。

This is happening all around the world, and you can't just ignore that.

這種情況正在世界各地發生，你不能對此視而不見。

If you're living in a part of the world where jobs are prospering and the future looks bright, we felt it was important to go to other parts of the country where that is not such an optimistic future.

如果你生活在世界上工作機會繁多、前景光明的地方，那麼我們認為有必要到國內其他地方去看看，因為那裡的前景並不那麼樂觀。

As we continue to travel north, we leave kind of the ghost towns, and we pass another reminder of the history in our country.

隨著我們繼續向北行進，我們離開了一些鬼城，路過了我國曆史上的另一個紀念碑。

During the Second World War, we had Japanese American citizens who were American citizens were forcibly relocated from their homes across the United States and put into a war internment camp in the eastern Sierra of California in this mountain range, basically.

在第二次世界大戰期間，我們的日裔美國公民被強行從美國各地的家中遷移到加利福尼亞州東部山脈的戰爭拘留營，基本上就是這樣。

Manzanar was a war relocation center where American citizens were forcibly removed from their homes and forced to live under guard.

曼扎納爾是一個戰爭遷移中心，美國公民在這裡被強行趕出家園，被迫在看守下生活。

It was kind of like an American concentration camp.

Us visiting that and the lines that are spoken during that scene about perspective was a super powerful moment in the film and one that we felt it was necessary to give you all a bit of back story on so that that scene really resonates the way that we wanted it to resonate.

我們去看那場戲，以及那場戲中關於視角的臺詞，在影片中是一個超級震撼的時刻，我們覺得有必要給大家介紹一下背景故事，這樣那場戲才能真正引起我們想要的共鳴。

Moving past all these layers of California's history and using California as an analogy for the United States as a whole, we feel that one of the most enduring legacies of the last hundred years is the National Park System, which was basically founded from the ideas of a guy named John Muir.

撇開加州歷史的這些層面，以加州作為整個美國的類比，我們認為近百年來最持久的遺產之一就是國家公園系統，它基本上是根據一個叫約翰-繆爾的人的想法建立起來的。

他是一位蘇格蘭自然保護主義者。

He moved to the United States, and he fell in love with the Sierra Nevada Mountains and Yosemite Valley.

他移居美國，並愛上了內華達山脈和優勝美地山谷。

He was kind of the first mover for the National Park System and the conservationist movement that saved all of these natural places and places that we as Americans and the entire world cherish and look at.

他是國家公園系統和自然保護運動的首倡者，是他拯救了所有這些我們美國人和全世界都珍視和觀賞的自然景觀。

How many thousands of photos have you seen from Yosemite Valley and from all of the national parks around the United States?

您從優勝美地山谷和美國各地的國家公園看過多少萬張照片？

Going there is kind of the moment when we come together as brothers and as a nation.

去那裡是我們作為兄弟和民族走到一起的時刻。

Our goal with this film was to unify, to try to bridge divides between different communities.

我們拍攝這部電影的目的是團結起來，努力消除不同社區之間的隔閡。

Our goal was not to try to tell people how to think or what they should believe in.

我們的目標不是試圖告訴人們如何思考或應該信仰什麼。

Instead, we really wanted to try to just empathize and try to find common ground.

相反，我們真的很想試著感同身受，試著找到共同點。

If you notice, there's a theme in this film of water.

如果你注意到，這部電影的主題是水。

We essentially trace the Los Angeles aqueduct from the city to the mountains where the water comes from, and the climactic moment is us going into a lake.

我們基本上是沿著洛杉磯的輸水管道，從城市一直追溯到水源所在的山區，而高潮時刻就是我們進入湖中的那一刻。

But before that, we go by California City, which was a really idealistic development in the 1960s that was supposed to be a city as large as Los Angeles to rival it in size.

但在此之前，我們要經過加利福尼亞城，那是 20 世紀 60 年代一個非常理想化的開發項目，本應成為一個與洛杉磯一樣大的城市，在規模上與洛杉磯相媲美。

It is actually the third largest city in California by space, but it's abandoned, and it's now this desert.

按面積計算，它實際上是加利福尼亞州的第三大城市，但它已被廢棄，現在成了一片沙漠。

It shows what happens if we didn't have water.

它展示瞭如果我們沒有水會發生什麼。

But this water ultimately comes from the communities we were visiting.

但這些水最終還是來自我們訪問的社區。

And that was our way of showing how cities are inherently dependent on the rural areas that surround them.

這也是我們展示城市如何從本質上依賴於其周邊農村地區的方式。

It was kind of a way of trying to show the characters being humbled by their dependency on their neighbors and kind of having a thread to go through all the different parts of California, leading to the climactic moment of a sort of baptism, of a spiritual renewal by washing yourself in these waters as you would in a religious ceremony because, as John Muir has said, as many American philosophers over the years have said, nature is the sacred religion of the United States.

這是一種試圖表現主角因依賴鄰居而變得謙卑的方式，也是一種貫穿加利福尼亞所有不同地區的線索，最終達到一種洗禮的高潮時刻，即像宗教儀式那樣在這些水域中洗滌自己，從而獲得精神上的新生，因為正如約翰-繆爾所說，正如多年來許多美國哲學家所說，大自然是美國神聖的宗教。

It is mountains, rivers, forests that are our cathedrals, our chapels.

山川、河流、森林才是我們的教堂，我們的禮拜堂。

It's where we go to be one with the universe.

在這裡，我們與宇宙融為一體。

And that's a thread that you hear from Henry David Thoreau to Ralph Waldo Emerson, John Muir.

從亨利-戴維-梭羅到拉爾夫-瓦爾多-愛默生，再到約翰-繆爾，你都能聽到這樣的聲音。

That is kind of what we were trying to provide as a solution, not that you should think this way or you should think that way, but just trying to find something that people in rural communities and urban settings could come together around, which is this idea that nature is our special place.

這就是我們試圖提供的一種解決方案，並不是說你應該這樣想，或者你應該那樣想，而只是試圖找到一些東西，讓農村社區和城市環境中的人們能夠團結在一起，這就是 "大自然是我們的特殊場所 "這一理念。

It's the undertone of conservationism that we believe in, something that we hold very dearly, and something that I think is universal.

這是我們信奉的保護主義的底色，是我們非常珍視的東西，我認為它具有普遍性。

There's the line in the film that says, eventually we all must come down from the mountain.

影片中有這樣一句臺詞：我們最終都必須從山上下來。

Taking that perspective that we've gained through this journey back with us into the city and trying to integrate that into our lives and to remember that we don't exist in isolation, that we're dependent on each other, and that at the end of the day, we are brothers and sisters regardless of our beliefs or our viewpoints.

把我們在這次旅行中獲得的視角帶回城市，並努力將其融入我們的生活，記住我們不是孤立存在的，我們相互依存，無論我們的信仰或觀點如何，最終我們都是兄弟姐妹。

And that's kind of the takeaway from East of Eden.

這也是《伊甸園之東》的啟示。

The whole process of pre-production, of production and post-production on East of Eden has been a huge learning curve.

伊甸園之東》的整個前期製作、製作和後期製作過程都是一個巨大的學習曲線。