Name: 為什麼賓夕法尼亞州一些特朗普選民也支持民主黨州長喬希-夏皮羅？ (Why Some Pennsylvania Trump Voters Also Support Democratic Gov. Josh Shapiro)
Uploaded: 2025-07-25T17:09:34.000Z
Duration: 5 min 35 s

Hey, everybody, we're back with Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro.

大家好，我們又回到了賓夕法尼亞州州長喬希-夏皮羅的節目。

I want to ask you about the Keystone State.

我想問你有關基石之州的情況。

我想問一下賓夕法尼亞州的情況。

It's a very swingy, swing state, you know.

I'm sure you know.  56% of the state voted for you in 2022.

你肯定知道  2022年，全州56%的人投票支持你。

But then in 2024, 50.4% of the state also voted for Trump.

但到了 2024 年，50.4% 的州民也把票投給了特朗普。

So there's likely some overlap between those voters.

是以，這些選民之間可能會有一些重疊。

Who, have you talked to those people and said what's the commonality between what you think I'm going to give you and what you think he's going to give you?

你有沒有跟那些人說過，你認為我會給你的東西和你認為他會給你的東西之間有什麼共同點？

I show up in their communities every day.

這些都是鄉親，這些都是好人。

And they're folks that, frankly, they've gotten frustrated over time.

坦率地說，這些人隨著時間的推移已經感到沮喪。

Because they saw governments just not solving problems for them.

因為他們看到政府並沒有為他們解決問題。

They saw too many people getting a raw deal.

他們看到太多的人得到了不公平的待遇。

They saw too many people getting an unfair advantage.

他們看到太多人獲得了不公平的優勢。

I show up in communities where Democrats often don't go, especially in our rural areas.

我出現在民主黨人經常不去的社區，尤其是我們的農村地區。

And I not only listen to them, I learn from them.

我不僅傾聽他們的意見，還向他們學習。

I go back to those communities and I deliver for them.

我回到這些社區，為他們提供服務。

So what do they say?  I'm just curious, like, what do they say they saw in you that they also saw in the president?

他們怎麼說？  我只是好奇，他們說在你身上看到了什麼，而在總統身上也看到了什麼？

You know, I think what they saw in me is someone who gives a damn about them, who treats them with respect.

你知道，我認為他們在我身上看到的是一個關心他們、尊重他們的人。

Whether they go to college, they go to the military, they go to a union apprenticeship program, they saw in me someone that could actually cut through it and solve their problems.

無論他們是上大學、參軍還是參加工會學徒計劃，他們都從我身上看到了一個能夠真正解決問題的人。

Now, the difference between me and the president is he shows up in those areas, he talks a good game, and then when he gets to govern, he does the exact opposite.

現在，我和總統的區別在於，他在這些領域大展身手，說得頭頭是道，但當他開始執政時，他的所作所為卻完全相反。

I was showing up in rural areas where Donald Trump was showing up, and he was pledging to not cut people off of Medicaid.

我出現在唐納德-特朗普出現的農村地區，他承諾不會切斷人們的醫療補助。

He goes and he cuts 310,000 Pennsylvanians off of Medicaid with this bill they just passed, including 154,000 in communities that voted for him.

他去了，他削減了310,000賓夕法尼亞州人從醫療補助與該法案，他們剛剛通過，包括154,000在社區投票給他。

When I ran for office and he ran for office, we both ran with the support of local police.

在我和他競選公職時，我們都得到了當地警方的支持。

我們對他們進行了更多的培訓。

We've brought crime down 38% in Pennsylvania.

我們使賓夕法尼亞州的犯罪率下降了 38%。

Literally, his first official action was to pardon people who assaulted cops on January 6 and sent some of those cops to their death.

從字面上看，他的第一個正式行動就是赦免了 1 月 6 日襲警的人，並將其中一些警察送上了死亡之路。

So what Donald Trump has done with the power is turned his back on those communities that voted for him.

是以，唐納德-特朗普利用權力所做的，就是背棄那些投票支持他的社區。

He's abandoned them, and he has made their lives worse.

他拋棄了他們，讓他們的生活變得更糟。

My focus every day is on making their lives better.

我每天的工作重點就是讓他們生活得更好。

I mean, to me, there's something hopeful in the fact there's overlap between your voter bases there.

我的意思是，在我看來，你們的選民基礎有重疊，這是有希望的。

So how can you use that to actually find an answer in there?

那麼，如何才能利用這一點找到答案呢？

Because clearly, something is terribly broken in our politics, and it can't just be everybody go to their corners.

因為很明顯，我們的政治已經出現了嚴重的問題，而這不可能只是每個人都回到自己的角落。

Well, what do you do to really show those communities that it doesn't have to be my team versus your team all the time?

那麼，你如何才能真正向這些社區表明，不必總是我的團隊對你的團隊？

I actually think when I show up in these areas, most folks aren't thinking my team versus yours.

實際上，我認為當我出現在這些領域時，大多數人不會認為我的團隊和你們的團隊有什麼不同。

They just want you to solve their problems.

他們只是想讓你解決他們的問題。

So look, I was in rural Potter County the other day.

聽著，前幾天我在波特縣的農村。

This is on the northern tier of Pennsylvania, right along the New York state border.

這裡位於賓夕法尼亞州北部，與紐約州交界。

That's where It's Wonderful Life is filmed, right?

生活多美好》就是在那裡拍攝的，對嗎？

No, a little different place, but it's called God's Country in Potter County.

不，是另一個地方，但它叫波特縣的 "上帝之鄉"。

生活多美好》不是一部真正的電影。

Because I had read in the newspaper about a month earlier that a gas pump in this community that is the stop along a 600-mile stretch of people who are ATVers and snowmobilers, that's attached to a general store that's been in this community in Germania for over 100 years, that that underground tank that stores the fuel had cracked and the fuel was leaking.

大約一個月前，我在報紙上看到，這個社區的一個加油機是全地形車和雪地車愛好者600英里行程的終點站，它與一家在日耳曼尼亞社區經營了100多年的雜貨店相連。

Read about in the paper, called my great chief of staff, said we've got to fix this.

在報紙上讀到這個消息後，我打電話給我偉大的參謀長，說我們必須解決這個問題。

And within a few weeks, we got funding to be able to fix that gas tank.

幾周內，我們就拿到了修復油箱的資金。

Now, to a lot of folks, that's just a gas tank.

現在，對很多人來說，這只是一個油箱。

But you see, understand that that gas tank is a lifeline for that community.

但你要明白，油箱是社區的生命線。

It shows respect to that community if you understand the needs they have and fix them.

如果你瞭解他們的需求並加以解決，這是對社區的尊重。

And it's a tangible way government can actually make their lives better, not just for the ATVers and the snowmobilers who are now going to have a place to fill up, but it means that general store that's been around for a century is sustained.

這也是政府切實改善他們生活的一種方式，不僅是為了讓全地形車手和雪地摩托車手有地方加油，也意味著那家存在了一個世紀的雜貨店能夠繼續經營下去。

It means that the people in that community are treated with respect.

And it shows that government can get things done.

這也表明，政府可以把事情辦好。

You know, my motto as governor of Pennsylvania is GSD.

你知道，我作為賓夕法尼亞州州長的座右銘是 GSD。

Governor, thank you so much for being here.

We'll be right back with a performance by Alex Keene.

我們馬上為您帶來亞歷克斯-基恩的表演。