something you may need to do in your personal, professional, or academic life, okay?

在你個人、專業或學術生涯中碰到討論時你可能需要的一些方式，好嗎？

Now, the topic we'll use as our sample is this one:

現在，我們用來當例子的主題是這個：

Is it better to study online or in a regular classroom? Okay?

上網學習或是在一般教室學習比較好？好嗎？

You'll have a chance to hear a discussion by native English speakers on this topic.

你將會聽到一段英語母語使用者討論這個主題

What I'd like you to do is listen for any special expressions and phrases that they use during the discussion.

我希望你做的是去聽他們在討論當中使用的任何特殊措辭或語句

Afterwards, I'll review the expressions and phrases with you, okay?

然後，我會跟妳一起回顧這些措辭跟片語，好嗎？

Now, today I have some special friends who have agreed to help me with this lesson,

現在，今天我有幾個特別的朋友已經同意要在這堂課程上幫助我們

and they're waiting in the classroom next door, so let's go and say hello to them.

而他們正在隔壁教室等著，所以我們來去跟他們打聲招呼吧

" Hello!" " Hello!" "Hi!" "Hi!" "How are you?"

「哈囉！」「哈囉！」 「嗨！」 「嗨！」 「你好嗎？」

"Good" "Well, look who's here. It's"

「很好」「那麼，看看這裡有誰。這是..」

"Ronnie." " Alex." "James." "Adam."

「Ronnie」「 Alex」「James」「Adam」

"Thank you for joining me, and thanks for helping with this lesson, guys."

「謝謝你們來加入我，也謝謝你們在這堂課裡幫忙。大夥兒。

"No problem." "No problem." "No problem." "No problem."

「沒問題" "沒問題" "沒問題" "沒問題"

"So you know we're talking about discussions, and the topic is: Is it better to study online or in a regular classroom?

「你們知道我們談到了"討論話題"，而今天的主題是：上網學習是否比在一般教室學習好？

Okay, who wants to go first?"

「好，誰想要先發言？

"Okay, so I'll start, and I think that it's actually very good to study online

Adam: 「好的，我先開始，我認為上網學習真的是非常好的，

because it's very convenient. because you can study whenever you want and at your own place.

因為它非常方便，因為你可以在任何你想要的時間學習，而且在你自己的地點

For example, someone like me, I like to study at nighttime. So for me, online works better

舉例來說，像我，我喜歡在晚上學習，所以對我來說，上網學習比較好

because it's quiet at night, no one disturbs me, and I can do what I need to do." - Okay

因為晚上很安靜，沒人會打擾我，我可以做我需要做的事」 Alex:「好的」

Uh, that's true, but if you're going to study online... Ronnie: "Sorry, but..."

Alex:「呃 你說的沒錯 但如果你要上網學習...」Ronnie:「抱歉，但...」

Please let me finish. Let me finish.

Alex:「請讓我說完，讓我說完」

As I was saying, that's true, but if you're studying online you do need to motivate yourself,

「如我剛剛所說，沒錯，但如果你要透過上網學習，你需要自動自發

so I think it's better to be in a classroom where you have other students and a teacher who can motivate you.

所以我認為在教室上課比較好，那裡你可以有其他學生及老師可以激勵你」

That's true, but some people can't afford to go to a classroom

Ronnie:「沒錯，但有些人負擔不起去教室上課的成本

and don't have enough money or resources to actually go to a big school.

沒有足夠的金錢或資源讓他們去一間大學校上課

So studying online, you can actually do it for free.

所以，上網學習，真的可以免費達成」

"Me? Well, I would like to add. May I say something?" "Sure."

James:「我嗎？我想要補充。 我可以提出意見嗎？"」Ronnie:「當然」

"Soft skills. That's not usually talked about in schools,

James:「軟實力。 我們不常在學校裡討論到這個

but when we talk about "soft skills", it's actual interaction,

但當我們談到"軟實力"，他是真正的互動

utilizing your English when you're with other people, and that's hard to get online

當你跟別人在一起時利用你的英文，而這很難在網路獲得

because you're watching a screen and not actually interacting with other people.

因為你是看著一個螢幕，而不是真正的跟他人互動"

"You make a very good point but I would also like to add that sometimes having classmates

Adam:「你說到一個很好的重點，但我也想補充一點，有時候有同學

takes you away from your focus because you have to maybe review things many times for other people to catch up,

會讓你不專注，因為你可能必須複習某些東西很多次來讓其他人跟上進度

or you have to do topics that are interesting to other people,not to yourself.

或是你必須做某些別人感興趣的主題，而不是你自己有興趣的

So it's a little distracting sometimes, too.

所以那有時候也是有一點令人分心

"However, focus is a good thing. I mean, it's not a bad thing to repeat something because

James:「然而，專注是好事。我是說，重複做某件事並非壞事

sometimes people don't catch the material the first time.

因為有時人們無法第一次就抓住重點。

So that way, you go over the material, and they -- you know, you get depth.

所以因此 你複習了這些題材 然後 你知道 你就更深入。

So you get to learn more, and people who don't understand get the opportunity to ask questions and learn from it again.

所以你可以學得更多，而不懂的人可以有機會問問題並再次從中學習」

"Yeah, but sometimes the resources that you get in a classroom are boring,

Ronnie:「是阿，但有時你從教室中得到的資源很無趣

and online you can just look up whatever you need on the Internet, and you've got it right there.

而上網你可以只尋找你所需要的，然後你可以找到它就在那裏

You don't have to rely on a textbook. Sometimes it can be a bad textbook."

你不需要依賴教科書。有時候那可能是本爛教科書」

"Okay. Don't get me wrong. I mean, there are good resources on the Internet, like engVid.com.

James:「好的 別誤會 我的意思是 網路上當然有好的資源 例如engVid.com.

However" "I'm sorry, did you say engVid.com?

然而...」 James:「抱歉 你剛剛說engVid.com嗎?」

"I did say engVid.com." "Oh, I've heard of engVid.com."

Alex:「我的確是說engVid.com」Adam「我聽過engVid.com.」

"I think I have too." "Me too."'

James:「我想我也聽過」Ronnie: 「我也是」

"Check it out. Anyway." "It's a good website."

James:「去看看 無論如何」 Alex:「那是個好網站」

"So as I was saying, don't get me wrong, I think there are excellent resources online.

「如同我剛剛所說 不要誤會 我認為網路上的確有極好的資源

However, some students who are just learning English for the first time might not know how to judge the quality of the resources.

然而 有些第一次學習英文的學生 可能不知道如何判斷資源的品質

So I think if you go to a school, if you're inside a classroom,

所以我認為 如果你去學校 如果你去教室

you're with a teacher who is trained, is a professional,

你碰到一位受過訓練 專業的好老師

who can give you the resources you need to improve your English.

他可以提供你需要的 增進英文能力的好資源」

"Well, it's a good thing you said about professional teachers because at engVid.com"

Ronnie:「嗯 你提到專業的老師是件好事 因為在engVid.com」

"engVid.com?" "engVid.com" "engVid.com" "Yeah, EngVid"

「engVid.com?」「engVid.com」「engVid.com」「是的 EngVid」

We have professional teachers ready to teach you.

Ronnie:「我們有專業的老師準備好來教你了」

So in conclusion, in a nutshell, can we just, kind of, sum up and say that

「總之 扼要來講 我們可以 類似做個總結是

studying online or in a classroom will help everyone?"

上網學習或是在教室學習可以幫助大家?」

"Sure." "I think so." "I can agree with that." "Okay."

Adam:「當然」Alex:「我想是」James:「我同意」Rebecca:「好」

"All right. Thank you very much for your help guys." "Okay" "No problem."

Rebecca:「好的 非常感謝你們的幫忙 各位」Adam:「好」Alex:「沒問題」

So now, I'll review some of the phrases and expressions that you heard in the discussion.

好的現在 我會回顧一些你們剛剛在討論裡聽到的片語跟措詞

I think that it's actually very good to study online.

「我認為上網學習非常好」

"I think" is used when you're going to express your opinion.

"我認為" 是用在當你準備發表意見時

You could also say "I believe" and so on.

你也可以說 "我相信" 諸如此類

Next. -- That's true, but if you're going to study online --

下一個 「的確是，但如果你要上網學習...」

-- However, focus is a good thing -- --

「然而 專注是好事」

Yeah, but sometimes the resources that you get in a classroom are boring.

「是阿 但有時你在教室裡得到的資源很無趣」

-- Okay, these three phrases, "That's true, but"; or "However"; or "Yeah, but", are used

好的 這裡用到三種片語 "的確是，但..." 或 "然而..." 或是"是阿，但..."

-- What do you think? They're used when we want to contradict what someone else has said,

你認為呢? 我們用這些來反駁別人所說的話

when we disagree with what someone else has said. Okay?

當我們不同意別人所說的內容時 好嗎?

Next. -- You make a very good point, but I would also like to add that sometimes having classmates

下一個 「你說到一個很好的重點，但我也想補充一點，有時候有同學

takes you away from your focus."

反而讓你不能專心」

-- "You made a good point but I'd also like to add", is a very nice expression.

"你說到一個很好的重點，但我也想補充一點..." 是個很好的表達方式

It shows that you recognize the contribution that someone else has made to the discussion in the first part,

它顯示出 首先你認可他人對這個討論所做出的貢獻

and you're also going to add your own opinion, which is different from what the first person said.

然後你將要加一些自己的意見 但這意見與他所說的不大相同

Next.

下一個

-- But if you're going to study online -- -- Sorry, but --

「但如果你想要上網學習...」 「抱歉，但...」

-- Well, I would like to add. May I say something?

「我想要補充。 我可以提出意見嗎？」

-- "Sorry but", which Ronnie says, or "May I say something?", which James said,

Ronnie說到"抱歉，但..." 或James說的"我可以提出意見嗎?"

are two different ways in which you can interrupt a discussion.

這是兩種用來打斷討論的不同方式

You see that the first one was purposely done for you not in a very polite way to show you how not to do it.

你可以看到第一種是不太禮貌的方式 是刻意做給你們看讓你了解不要這麼做

And James says, "May I say something?", which is a very polite way to enter a discussion.

而James說的"我可以提出意見嗎?" 則是一種非常禮貌的切入討論的方式

Next. -- Sorry, but -- -- Please let me finish. Let me finish.

下一個 "抱歉，但" "請讓我說完 讓我說完"

-- "Please let me finish" is a very nice way to hold the floor.

"請讓我說完"是一種非常好的保持發言的方式

What does it mean to "hold the floor" in a discussion? It means to establish your position as the speaker, all right?

什麼是在討論中"hold the floor"? 這是指確認你是發言的角色 了解嗎?

So someone else is trying to interrupt, but you want a chance to finish whatever argument you're presenting,

所以當別人想要打斷你 但你想要能夠結束你正在論述的論點時

so you say, "Please let me finish", okay? Very nice.

你就說"請讓我說完" 可以嗎? 非常好

Next. -- As I was saying, that's true, but if you're studying online --

下一個 「如我剛剛所說，沒錯，但如果你要透過上網學習...」

-- "As I was saying" is used when you're returning to your -- to speaking, to whatever you were saying when someone has interrupted you, okay?

"如我剛剛所說" 是用來恢復你的講話內容 回到你講到一半被打斷的地方 可以嗎?

It's a way of saying, "Okay, now I'm talking again"

這是一種說 "好 現在又輪到我說話了" 的方式

. "As I was saying." All right?

"如我剛剛所說" 可以嗎?

Next. -- Okay. Don't get me wrong. I mean, there are good resources on the Internet.

下一個 「好的 別誤會 我的意思是 網路上當然有好的資源...」

-- Alex uses, "don't get me wrong". Now, this is an interesting expression

Alex使用 "別誤會(我的意思)". 現在 這是一個有趣的表達方式

because when we say this, what we're saying is that,

因為當我們說這句話時 我們的意思是

"I've been explaining something, I've been presenting a certain point of view, but I do understand that there is another point of view,

"我在解釋某件事 我在呈現某種觀點 但我明白會有另一種觀點

and I accept that, and I understand that. However, I do still have my opinion."

而我接受 我也了解 然而 我還是有我自己的觀點"

So we use that when we are taking into account the other opinion as well.

所以我們這句話用在當我們也有考慮到其他觀點的時候

Next. -- So in conclusion, in a nutshell, can we just, kind of, sum up and say that --

下一個 「總之 扼要來講 我們可以 類似做個總結是...」

-- Okay, the last three phrases were used by Ronnie to end the discussion,

好的 最後由Ronnie說得這三句話是用來"結束討論"

so "in conclusion","in a nutshell". "In a nutshell" just means "in short"

所以是用"總之" "扼要來講"。"In a nutshell"就是指"簡短來說"

or "Can we sum up by saying..." "Can we sum up?" means "Can we summarize?" All right?

或是用"我們可以做個總結是...?" ""Can we sum up"意思是"我們可以做個總結嗎?" 了解嗎?

So that's a nice way to end a discussion by including everyone in it. It's not as if one person is deciding to end the discussion.

因此 這是一個藉由總合所有人來結束討論的好方法 這樣不會好像某一個人決定要結束討論

She's sort of asking everyone's permission by saying, "can we sum up by saying", okay?

她是藉由說"我們可以做個總結是...?"來請求每個人的准許(結束話題) 了解嗎?

I hope this lesson has given you a number of different expressions that you can use when you're taking part in a discussion, all right?

我希望這個課程能提供你數種參與討論時你可以使用到的不同表達方式 好嗎?

If you'd like to do a quiz on this subject, please go to our website, www.engvid.com.

如果你願意做個關於這個主題的小測驗 請到我們的網站www.engvid.com

Thanks very much for watching, and good luck with your English.

感謝收看 並祝你學英文順利