Name: 霍曼：看看國際移民局（ICE）是否會在美國運輸安全局（TSA）拿到薪水後離開機場！ (Homan: ‘We’ll see’ if ICE leaves airports once TSA gets paid)
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Joining us now to discuss White House borders are Tom Homan, who just visited the Houston airport to monitor the very, very long security lines there.

現在加入我們討論白宮邊境議題的是 Tom Homan，他剛參訪了休士頓機場，觀察那裡非常非常長的安檢隊伍。

Homan has also been involved in the talks on Capitol Hill to end the shutdown.

也參與了國會山莊結束停擺的協商。

川普總統現在說，其實有一個方法可以支付美國運輸安全管理局員工的薪水，可能最快就從明天開始。

President Trump now says that there is, in fact, a way to pay TSA workers, possibly as soon as tomorrow.

美國運輸安全管理局的官員明天能收到薪水嗎？

Can TSA agents expect a paycheck tomorrow,

美國民眾又得等到什麼時候，漫長的等待時間才能結束呢？

and when can Americans expect the long wait times to die down?

嗯，只要國會重新開放政府運作，並為國土安全部提供資金，這就是必須發生的事。

Well, as soon as Congress opens up the government and funds the Department of Homeland Security, that's what needs to happen.

不過，我昨天有跟國土安全部長馬克·威廉·穆倫談過。

But, yeah, I talked to Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen yesterday.

There is a plan to get these TSA agents pay, hopefully by tomorrow, Tuesday.

有個計畫能讓這些美國運輸安全管理局的員工明天，也就是星期二，收到薪水。

So, yeah, it's good news because these TSA officers are struggling.

所以，嗯，這是個好消息，因為這些美國運輸安全管理局的官員們過得很辛苦。

They can't feed their families or pay their rent.

Your heart goes out to them because they're sitting there right now working very hard and not being paid while members of Congress now are on vacation getting paid.

你真的會同情他們，因為他們現在正努力工作卻沒拿到薪水，而國會議員們卻在休假領薪水。

If the administration had the power to move funds around to pay TSA agents this whole time, why did it take 41 days to do it?

如果行政當局一直有權力調動資金來支付美國運輸安全管理局的員工，為什麼花了 41 天才這麼做？

Well, look, paying TSA agents doesn't pay the rest of the Department of Homeland Security.

嗯，你看，支付美國運輸安全管理局的員工薪水，並不能支付國土安全部的其他部門。

You got the Coast Guard, you got CISA, you got the Men and Women's Secret Service.

你還有海岸防衛隊、網路安全局，還有美國特勤局的男女同仁們。

You got a lot of people working at the Department of Homeland Security that isn't getting paid.

國土安全部有很多員工沒拿到薪水。

And even though you know and then we got the mission support under TSA I mean, under ICE, right?

而且你知道，然後我們還有 ICE 下的任務支援，我是說，在 TSA 下面，對吧？

ICE officers excuse me, they'll be getting paid.

ICE 官員，抱歉，他們會拿到薪水。

But how about the mission support people, the people that keep the lights on it and do all the things that they have to do so ICE agents go out there and do their job?

那任務支援的人呢？那些讓一切順利運作、做好他們該做的事，好讓 ICE 官員能出去執行任務的人呢？

So, no, they just need to fund the Department of Homeland Security.

所以，不行，他們只需要撥款給國土安全部。

After all, we're talking about the Department of Homeland Security in a time we have a heightened threat posture right now in this country because of what's going on in the world.

畢竟，我們現在談論的是國土安全部，而這個國家因為世界局勢，正處於高度警戒狀態。

This should be the last thing they're fighting over funding for.

這應該是他們最後才該爭論撥款的事情。

But if President Trump had the power to pay TSA agents this whole time, why only start doing it now?

但如果川普總統一直有權力支付 TSA 官員的薪水，為什麼現在才開始做？

Look, I don't understand look, I'm a cop.

聽著，我不懂，聽著，我是個警察。

I don't understand the whole appropriations language, appropriations law.

我不懂整個撥款的術語，撥款法。

I just I'm just glad that President Trump is able to pay the TSA agents.

我只是，我很高興川普總統能夠支付美國運輸安全管理局官員的薪水。

But, again, there's a lot more, many more, thousands of more, tens of thousands of more DHS employees who are not being paid that need to be paid.

但是，再說一次，還有很多，還有許多，成千上萬，數萬名國土安全部的員工沒有拿到薪水，他們需要拿到薪水。

Once TSA agents start getting paid, will ICE agents leave the airports?

一旦美國運輸安全管理局的官員開始領到薪水，移民及海關執法局的官員會離開機場嗎？

It depends how many TSA agents come back to work, how many TSA agents have actually quit and have no plan coming back to work.

這取決於有多少美國運輸安全管理局的官員回來上班，有多少美國運輸安全管理局的官員實際上已經辭職並且沒有計畫回來上班。

I'm working very closely with the TSA administrator and the ICE director to decide what airport needs what.

我正與美國運輸安全管理局的行政長官和移民及海關執法局的局長密切合作，以決定哪個機場需要什麼。

But, you know, God bless the Men and Women of ICE.

但是，你知道，上帝保佑移民及海關執法局的男女官員。

They're keeping the security airport at a high level, again, because of the heightened threat that we're in right now.

他們維持機場安全在高水平，因為我們目前面臨的威脅升高。

Thank God the TSA I mean, the ICE agents are there protecting the exit lanes, doing identification checks, plugging the security holes.

感謝上帝，美國運輸安全管理局，我是說，移民及海關執法局的官員們在那裡保護離境通道、進行身分檢查、填補安全漏洞。

We got to keep the American people going through those lines.

我們必須讓美國民眾順利通過這些隊伍。

And ICE is helping shorten those lines and adding security to each and every airport around the country.

移民及海關執法局正在協助縮短這些隊伍，並為全國各個機場增加安全措施。

So it's been a week since President Trump sent those ICE agents into airports to help with security.

所以川普總統派移民及海關執法局官員到機場協助安全工作，到現在已經一週了。

I'm not blaming them on ICE, but the lines are still bad.

我不是責怪移民及海關執法局，但隊伍還是很長。

The head of the union overseeing TSA, Everett Kelly, he told The New York Times, quote, "The administration sent ICE agents to airports as replacement workers.

負責美國運輸安全管理局的工會領袖 Everett Kelly 告訴《紐約時報》，引述說：「行政當局派遣移民及海關執法局官員到機場擔任替補人員。」

That's like giving a person dying of pneumonia a teaspoon of cough syrup.

這就像是給肺炎末期病人一茶匙的咳嗽藥水。

and it's not going to work." But specifically, you mentioned this just a second ago.

而且也不會奏效。」但具體來說，你剛剛提到這件事。

But if you could go into more detail, what have ICE agents at airports been doing?

但如果你能進一步說明，移民及海關執法局的官員在機場到底做了什麼？

Well, look, the wait lines have decreased.

嗯，你看，排隊等候的時間確實縮短了。

We got additional agents going to Baltimore yesterday to bring those lines down.

我們昨天派了更多官員到巴爾的摩，以縮短這些隊伍。

And I can understand the TSA union's position.

而且我能理解美國運輸安全管理局工會的立場。

They want to be paid, and they're frustrated.

他們想要拿到薪水，而且他們感到很沮喪。

But, however, the facts are, every place we sent ICE officers, the lines have decreased,

但是，事實是，我們派 ICE 官員去的每個地方，隊伍都縮短了，

Look, they're checking identification before you go to screening.

你看，在進行安檢前，他們會檢查證件。

We're not going to have an ICE officer looking at X-ray images deciding what bags need to be secondary.

我們不會讓 ICE 官員看 X 光影像，來決定哪些行李需要二次檢查。

But we can check IDs before they get to that machine.

但我們可以在他們到達機器前檢查證件。

We can cover exits to make sure that people don't enter through the exits.

我們可以看守出口，確保人們不會從出口進入。

That takes that TSA agent off that security line and put him on the X-ray machine.

這能讓那位美國運輸安全管理局的官員離開安全線，去操作 X 光機。

So we're doing the job TSA is asking us to do so their officers can get back to main screening.

所以我們正在做美國運輸安全管理局要求我們做的工作，這樣他們的官員就能回到主要檢查區。

For the first time since the shutdown began, just a few days ago, Democrats and Republicans came together.

這是自停擺開始以來，僅僅幾天前，民主黨人和共和黨人首次團結在一起。

They passed this compromise bill in the Senate.

他們在參議院通過了這項妥協法案。

Republican Leader John Thune said it was a good bill because ICE and CBP are already funded because of the One Big Beautiful bill passed last year.

共和黨領袖約翰·圖恩表示，這是一項好法案，因為冰 and CBP 已經獲得了去年通過的「One Big Beautiful」法案的資金。

He said the Democrats got zero restrictions that would prevent ICE and CBP agents from doing their job safely.

他說民主黨人零限制，不會阻止冰 and CBP 官員安全地執行任務。

And Thune also said ICE and CBP are going to end up getting even more funding through budget reconciliation.

圖恩還說，冰 and CBP 最終將通過預算協調獲得更多資金。

So why would President Trump oppose this deal that John Thune, the Senate majority leader, says is a good deal?

那麼，為什麼川普總統會反對參議院多數黨領袖約翰·圖恩所說的好交易呢？

President Trump wants the entire Department of Homeland Security funded.

川普總統希望為整個國土安全部提供資金。

And, look, I've been on Capitol Hill talking to both sides.

說真的，我跑過國會山莊，跟雙方都談過了。

And bottom lines, they want changes in ICE tactics.

總之，他們想改變 ICE 的執勤方式。

Look, the same laws that ICE follows today, the same laws about immigration enforcement, have been in place during Clinton, Obama, and

看看，ICE 現在遵循的法律，關於移民執法的這些法律，在柯林頓、歐巴馬時期就已經存在了，

And the things we're talking about, they want to prevent ICE from doing their job.

而我們正在談論的這些事情，他們是想阻止 ICE 執行任務。

They can say they don't want to abolish ICE.

They want to change operations so we arrest less people.

他們想改變執勤方式，讓我們逮捕更少的人。

And, look, the conversation is going good.

而且，你看，談話進行得很順利。

We'll pass the budget, and there's $120 million to buy body cameras.

我們會通過預算，會有 1.2 億美元用來購買隨身攝影機。

They want to talk about sensitive location and enforcement of sensitive locations.

他們想談論敏感地點以及敏感地點的執法。

But they can't point to one instance, not one, where we've arrested anybody in a church or anybody inside of a hospital.

但他們無法舉出任何一個例子，一個都沒有，說我們在教堂或醫院裡逮捕過任何人。

We don't have a sensitive location policy,

but we're already practicing sensitive location, that we don't do the operations there unless there is significant national security threat or a significant national security threat.

但我們已經在實踐敏感地點的原則，除非有重大的國家安全威脅，否則我們不會在那裡執行任務。

But they can't point to a single instance we've arrested an alien inside of a church or a hospital.

但他們無法舉出任何一個我們在教堂或醫院裡逮捕過外國人的例子。