Name: 川普曾有多次「退場選項」可終結伊朗戰爭，知情人士透露！ (Trump regularly presented with ‘off-ramps’ to end Iran war, sources say)
Uploaded: 2026-03-16T23:11:47.000Z
Duration: 19 min 16 s

Now I'm Kelly o' Donnell in Washington where President Trump is making a direct appeal to the international community to help the US Secure the Strait of Hormuz to avoid a global oil supply crisis.

我是凱莉·奧唐納，現在人在華盛頓。川普總統正直接呼籲國際社會，希望美國能協助確保荷姆茲海峽的安全，以避免全球石油供應危機。

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Even as he claims the US could secure the strait by itself and says that we don't need the oil.

儘管他聲稱美國可以自行確保海峽安全，並表示我們不需要石油。

It comes as the White House continues to try to reassure consumers that the spike in energy prices due to the conflict will be temporary.

這發生在白宮持續試圖向消費者保證，因衝突導致的能源價格飆升將是暫時的。

Yesterday, President Trump said he was demanding countries that rely on oil from the Middle east join the US in forming a coalition to secure the strait, which supplies roughly 20% of the global oil market.

昨天，川普總統表示，他要求那些依賴中東石油的國家加入美國，組成一個聯盟來確保海峽的安全，該海峽供應了全球約 20% 的石油市場。

Today the President doubling down on his calls for a global coalition.

今天，總統再次加強了他對組成全球聯盟的呼籲。

We strongly encourage the other nations to get involved with us and get involved quickly and with great enthusiasm.

我們強烈鼓勵其他國家能積極參與，而且要快速、熱情地加入我們。

I have that from a number of them and I'd like to say their names but frankly I don't know if they would want me to or not because maybe they don't want to be targeted.

我從不少國家那裡聽到了這些話，我很想說出他們的名字，但老實說，我不知道他們是否希望我這麼做，因為他們可能不想被鎖定目標。

But I say wouldn't matter if you targeted or not because this is a paper tiger that we're dealing with now.

但我說，不管你是否被鎖定目標都沒關係，因為我們現在面對的是一個紙老虎。

It wasn't a paper tiger two weeks ago, it's a paper tiger now.

兩週前它不是紙老虎，現在它是紙老虎了。

That assessment comes as the President is also claiming that Iran has been, quote, literally obliterated in the war and that its leaders leadership has effectively been dismantled, prompting this question from reporters.

這項評估是在總統也宣稱伊朗在戰爭中已經「字面意義上被徹底摧毀」，其領導層也已被瓦解的同時提出的，這也引發了記者們的提問。

Now that you've announced that the US has destroyed all of Iran's mine laying ships, why can't the US Just immediately reopen the Strait of Hormuz?

既然美國已經宣佈摧毀了伊朗所有的掃雷艦，為什麼美國不能立即重新開放荷姆茲海峽？

Well, we could, but it takes two to tango.

嗯，我們可以，但這需要雙方配合。

We have to get people to take their billion dollar ship and, and you know, drive it up.

我們必須讓人們開著他們價值十億美元的船，你知道，開上去。

You know, these ships are very expensive.

它們的成本可能高達二十億美元。

So they don't want to take a chance at, gee, I think we, I think you'll be okay.

所以他們不想冒險，想著，哦，我認為，我認為你會沒事的。

We don't know if they even set any minds.

我們不知道他們是否設置了任何水雷。

But the thought that they may have is enough to keep people from saying we don't need it.

但他們可能設置了水雷的想法，就足以讓人們不敢說我們不需要了。

Among the countries the President is calling out for help, the United Kingdom, France, South Korea, Japan and China, all responding to his request with mixed reactions and none doing so publicly, none committing to deploying assets to the Strait of Hormuz so far.

總統尋求協助的國家包括英國、法國、南韓、日本和中國，但他們對總統的要求反應不一，沒有任何國家公開回應，到目前為止也沒有國家承諾部署船艦到荷姆茲海峽。

Meanwhile, Iran's foreign minister telling state TV the Strait of Hormuz is open and only closed to enemies.

同時，伊朗外交部長告訴國營電視臺，荷姆茲海峽是開放的，只對敵人關閉。

昨天原油價格飆升到每桶 100 美元。

Today those prices are coming down to around $93 a barrel, but still 40% higher.

今天這些價格降到每桶約 93 美元，但仍比戰爭開始時高出 40%。

Fuel prices also continue to climb, with the average regular gas price per gallon inching closer to that $4 mark.

油價也持續攀升，每加侖的平均無鉛汽油價格逼近 4 美元大關。

Yesterday on Meet the Press, Energy Secretary Chris Wright saying it could be a few weeks before those prices come down.

昨天在 Meet the Press 節目上，能源部長 Chris Wright 表示，價格回落可能需要幾週的時間。

After the conflict is over, you'll start to see prices come back down.

衝突結束後，你就會開始看到價格回落。

See this a short term disruption in the flow of energy.

Americans will feel it for a few more weeks, but

at the end, we will have removed the greatest risk to global energy supplies.

最終，我們將能排除對全球能源供應的最大威脅。

As for now, how much longer this could go on is a question mark.

至於現在，這還會持續多久，仍然是個問號。

And Iran's foreign minister says there is no reason to negotiate with the US President Trump was also asked about the possibility of negotiations and here's what he had to say.

伊朗外長表示，沒有理由與美國談判。美國總統 President Trump 也被問及談判的可能性，他這麼說。

我不知道他們現在準備好了沒。

而且我們甚至不認識他們的領導層。

Look, all of their leaders are dead as far as we know, but they're all dead.

看看，據我們所知，他們所有的領導層都已陣亡，他們都死了。

我們不知道我們在跟誰打交道。

We met with the next group and, but we don't know who their leader is.

我們見了下一批人，但我們不知道他們的領導是誰。

Joining me now are NBC News White House correspondent Monica Alba, NBC News senior national security correspondent Courtney Kuby, NBC News business and data correspondent Brian Chung, and

現在加入我的是 NBC 新聞白宮記者 Monica Alba、NBC 新聞資深國家安全記者 Courtney Kuby、NBC 新聞商業與數據記者 Brian Chung，以及

NBC News international correspondent Matt Bradley.

Traffic through the strait has really ground to a halt in part because the companies that have the vessels don't want to expose themselves to the risk.

通過海峽的交通幾乎停擺，部分原因是擁有船隻的公司不想讓自己暴露於風險之中。

Do you get a sense that the president's attempt to form a coalition is actually materializing?

妳覺得總統組建聯盟的嘗試真的有在實現嗎？

It doesn't seem like it, Kelly, because he's trying to do this retroactively, right?

感覺沒有耶，Kelly，因為他有點像是事後諸葛，對吧？

He's trying to kind of bring this coalition together to countries, asking them for help when they weren't really consulted in the first place on launching this attack against Iran with Israel.

他試圖把這個聯盟組建起來，讓一些國家來幫忙，但其實在發動這場針對伊朗和以色列的攻擊之前，根本沒有諮詢過他們。

So countries are saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a second, not so fast.

所以各國就說，等等，等等，等等，慢著，沒那麼快。

And also they're saying this isn't our war, this isn't necessarily our conflict, even if we do have a vested interest in getting the Strait of Hormuz to be seen safe enough for vessels to pass through it.

而且他們也說，這不是我們的戰爭，這不一定是我們的衝突，即使我們確實有既得利益，希望荷姆茲海峽能被視為足夠安全，讓船隻通過。

So they want to have a more diplomatic conversation.

所以他們想要有更外交的對話。

That is certainly not what President Trump likes to necessarily want to engage in.

這絕對不是 President Trump 喜歡或想參與的。

He said about the UK prime minister, for instance, who said, well, let me talk to my team first and maybe we'll have A discussion and I'll make a determination and get back to you.

像是他對英國首相說的話，對方說，好吧，讓我和我的團隊先談談，也許我們會討論一下，我會做出決定再回覆你。

And the President said in this event today, why does he need to talk to his team?

而 President 在今天的這個場合說，他為什麼需要跟他的團隊談？

Why can't he just tell me he wants to help and go ahead with it?

他為什麼不能直接告訴我他想幫忙然後就去做？

So a difference in leadership style and a difference in the approach to, to this very complicated diplomatic challenge, and

所以領導風格不同，處理這個非常複雜的外交挑戰的方式也不同，

so revealing, because the President doesn't feel he needs to consult, therefore another head of government might not need to.

所以這點非常能說明問題，因為總統覺得他不需要諮詢，所以其他國家領導人也可能不需要。

Is there a conflict in these discussions with the President saying he needs this international coalition, but

這些討論中是否存在衝突，一方面總統說他需要這個國際聯盟，但

at the same time is describing the threat from Iran as far reduced?

另一方面卻說伊朗的威脅已經大大降低了？

Yeah, I think there are kind of a myriad of contradictions that the President has been making here because he is trying to make the argument that militarily, so many of these targets have been hit, so many of the objectives have been met, but

是的，我認為總統在這裡說了很多矛盾的話，因為他試圖論證在軍事上，許多目標都已經被擊中，許多目標都已經達成，但是

clearly this economic consideration and dealing with the Strait of Hormuz, which he says he knew and was aware this was going to be such a problem, makes it very, very difficult to be able to declare victory in any sense, because until you have solved that, we don't really know how the President can make that claim.

顯然，這個經濟考量以及處理荷姆茲海峽的問題，他表示他知道並且意識到這將會是個大問題，這使得在任何意義上都難以宣稱勝利，因為在你解決這個問題之前，我們真的不知道總統如何能這樣說。

And then you also are seeing these reports of additional resources of Marines and a unit that are going to be sent to the region, unclear exactly what their goal will be and what their role will be.

然後你還看到有報導說，將有更多的海軍陸戰隊和一個單位被派往該地區，目前還不清楚他們的確切目標和角色是什麼。

But it is very hard for the President to say, on one hand we are ready to wind down, while on other, you're seeing a ramp up in that sense.

但總統很難一方面說我們準備好結束，另一方面卻看到這種情況的升級。

We're still waiting this afternoon for an event that is yet to take place, as I understand it, with the President and Vice President Vance in the same room together, which might not sound unusual, except we have not seen that since the war began.

我們今天下午還在等一個我理解中總統和副總統 Vance 在同一個房間裡會面，這聽起來可能沒什麼不尋常，但自從戰爭開始以來我們就沒見過。

Just a few days ago, it was the President who admitted that the Vice President did have some, quote, philosophical differences in his approach to what they should do leading up to the decision making on the war against Iran.

就在幾天前，總統承認副總統在他們應該做什麼，也就是在對伊朗開戰的決策過程中，確實有一些，引述的話，哲學上的分歧。

The fact that we are still seeing them and there they are at this event now is notable because likely there will be some questions presented to one or both of them about that gulf, about that difference in opinion.

我們還看到他們在場，而且他們現在就出現在這個場合，這點很值得注意，因為很可能有人會問他們其中一位或兩位關於海灣地區、關於意見分歧的問題。

Now, the Vice President, when he was asked about this a couple of days ago, said, I'm not going to reveal personal considerations and recommendations that I make to the commander in chief, to the media.

現在，副總統幾天前被問到這件事時說，他不會向媒體透露他向總司令提出的個人考量和建議。

I'm not going to reveal that to all of us.

But I think it is very instructive that the President doesn't really hesitate when he's asked about it.

但我覺得很值得參考的是，總統被問到這件事時，他並沒有猶豫。

He will say yes, maybe we, you know, differed on a couple of different things but were aligned on these others.

他會說，沒錯，也許我們在幾件事情上有點意見不同，但在其他事情上我們是站在一起的。

Which just sets up this whole other major conversation, as you know, Kelly, about 2028 and what this could mean for the president backing his own vice president or potentially his secretary of state, Marco Rubio, who's somebody that he has heaped praise on as we have seen this conflict over the last three weeks.

這就像你所知道的，Kelly，為 2028 年開啟了另一個重大的對話，以及這對總統支持他自己的副總統，或者潛在支持國務卿 Marco Rubio 可能意味著什麼，Marco Rubio 是我們在過去三週看到這場衝突時，總統不斷讚揚過的人。

And Rubio has been so prominent in this whole discussion by virtue of the role that he plays.

而 Rubio 因為他扮演的角色，在這個整個討論中變得如此突出。

Cordy, let me bring you into this discussion as well.

Cordy，我也想請你加入這個討論。

And we talk about the feasibility issues from the military side of things, of trying to form a coalition, of trying to bring these leaders together.

我們談論從軍事角度來看，試圖組建聯盟、試圖讓這些領導人團結起來的可行性問題。

Do you get a sense that there's any progress on this and that there's any definition as to what the roles would be if other nations joined in?

你是否感覺到這方面有任何進展，如果其他國家加入，他們的角色會有什麼定義嗎？

Yeah, it's not impossible that the militaries could come together and provide some, present some sort of a coalition that would be helping ships get through.

是的，軍方並非不可能聯合起來，組成一個協助船隻通過的聯盟。

But at this point, we don't see any real momentum towards that goal.

但目前為止，我們還沒看到任何實質進展。

There's options like things like some nations can provide aircraft that can do surveillance, maybe even provide air defenses in the way that they could defend against drones by shooting at them, air to air missiles or whatever it is.

有些國家可以提供偵察機，甚至透過空對空飛彈或其他方式防禦無人機，提供空中防禦。

There's unmanned systems that they could use as well.

But again, at this point, we don't see any indication that that is really moving in any direction.

但再次強調，目前我們沒有看到任何跡象顯示這方面有任何進展。

And it's in large part because of what just Monica just said, that is these countries weren't brought in in advance.

這很大程度上是因為 Monica 剛才說的，這些國家事先沒有被納入考量。

And even though they have an economic interest in this being the Strait of Hormuz, allowing for free flow of comm traffic, they may not want to get involved militarily.

即使他們在荷姆茲海峽的自由航運上有經濟利益，他們可能也不想軍事介入。

And the reality is the same exact threat that exists to the US Navy would exist for all of those other militaries as well.

事實是，美國海軍面臨的威脅，對其他所有軍隊也同樣存在。

There is a real threat to the military if they were to try and take on this, this challenge, even as a multination coalition.

如果他們要嘗試應對這個挑戰，即使是多國聯盟，對軍隊來說也確實存在真實的威脅。

So it's an extraordinary ask from the president to these allies.

所以，總統對這些盟友提出的要求非常不尋常。

We also need your expertise when it comes to that critical oil depot known as Kharg island in Iran.

我們也需要你們在處理伊朗那個關鍵的石油儲存點，也就是哈爾格島的專業知識。

There have been questions about whether the U.S.

now that there have been strikes, there would there be some plan to have any boots on the ground just to secure that critical area?

現在既然已經發生了襲擊，是否會有任何地面部隊的計畫來確保那個關鍵區域的安全？

Is that something that's being discussed?

And this is something that the US has war gamed for years, the possibility of doing this.

美國多年來一直在模擬這種可能性。

But the reality is, Kelly, it would take thousands of U.S. troops to accomplish that.

但現實是，Kelly，這需要數千名美國軍隊才能達成。

And as difficult as it could be to take the island or holding, it would be even more difficult and dangerous.

而且，佔領或守住這個島嶼有多困難，之後的維護就會更加困難和危險。