Name: 加薩種族滅絕得以滋長，我們必須改變這個體制：法蘭切絲卡·阿爾巴尼斯 (We need to change the system that has allowed the genocide in Gaza to fester : Francesca Albanese)
Uploaded: 2026-02-20T23:06:09.000Z
Duration: 15 min 28 s

The United nations is raising also concerns about potential ethnic cleansing in the occupied Palestinian territories.

聯合國也對被佔領的巴勒斯坦領土內潛在的種族清洗表達擔憂。

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A new report says Israel's conduct during the war on Gaza and its military crackdown in the occupied west bank appears to be aimed at permanently displacing the population in Gaza.

一份新報告指出，以色列在加薩戰爭期間的行為，以及在被佔領的約旦河西岸的軍事鎮壓，似乎旨在永久性驅離加薩人口。

Investigators found Israeli forces intensified their assault through 2025 in a campaign that appeared to be aimed at a permanent demographic shift.

調查人員發現，以色列部隊在 2025 年透過一場旨在實現永久性人口結構轉變的行動，加劇了攻擊。

Entire neighborhoods were methodically destroyed and then humanitarian aid was blocked with the apparent aim of forcing people to leave.

整個社區遭到系統性摧毀，接著又阻擋人道主義援助，明顯是為了迫使人們離開。

In the last 12 months covered by the report, it says that Israel's blocking of humanitarian aid caused many people to starve to death.

報告涵蓋的過去 12 個月裡，以色列阻擋人道主義援助導致許多人餓死。

At least 463, including 157 children, died of hunger in the occupied West Bank.

在被佔領的約旦河西岸，至少有 463 人，包括 157 名兒童，死於飢餓。

UN investigators highlighted what they called a systematic use of unlawful force.

聯合國調查員強調了他們所稱的系統性使用非法武力。

Israeli troops and settlers forced Palestinians from their land, raising serious concerns of ethnic cleansing.

以色列部隊和屯墾者強行將巴勒斯坦人趕離家園，引發了對種族清洗的嚴重擔憂。

Unlawful demolitions ensured many had no homes to return to.

非法拆除確保了許多人無家可歸。

And all these violations of international human rights law took place in a climate of impunity.

而所有這些違反國際人權法的行為，都發生在一個法外特權氣候之下。

Reports said that many of the atrocities could constitute war crimes, but

報告指出，許多暴行可能構成戰爭罪，但

the perpetrators acted with confidence that there'd be no consequences to their actions.

肇事者卻自信地認為他們的行為不會有任何後果。

Well, joining us now is Francesca Albanese.

好的，現在加入我們的是 Francesca Albanese。

She's the UN's Special Rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian Territories and she joins us live from Tunis and from Rehoboth.

她是以色列被佔領巴勒斯坦領土的聯合國特別報告員，她正從突尼西亞和雷霍沃特現場連線。

He is a member of the Israeli Knesset and he represents the Hadash, the Al faction there.

他是以色列國會議員，代表了那裡的 Hadash-Al 黨派。

What is different in this report to the ones that you've seen before?

這份報告與您之前看過的有什麼不同之處？

We've been through a lot of this and Israel has been accused of ethnic cleansing and crimes against humanity.

我們經歷了很多這類情況，以色列曾被指控進行種族清洗和反人類罪。

I find that this report particularly important because different than the others than the High Commissioner has produced, which of course is strike for good quality and accuracy of information.

我覺得這份報告特別重要，因為它跟聯合國人權事務高級專員之前發表的報告不太一樣，那些報告當然都品質很高、資訊準確。

This one contains an analysis of the overarching context and it speaks of permanent displacement of permanent demographic shift in the context of rampant impunity.

這份報告包含對整體情況的分析，並且提到了在法外特權氣候下，永久性驅離和人口結構轉變。

Considering what I've called in my genocide report the totality of conduct against the totality of the people as such, in the totality of the land that as the report recognizes Israel slates for ethnic cleansing.

考量到我在種族滅絕報告中提到的，針對整個族群的整體行為，以及報告中承認以色列計畫進行種族清洗的土地上的整體情況。

What struck me most more of these report is something that the High Commissioner of Volker Turk said himself.

這份報告最讓我印象深刻的是聯合國人權事務高級專員 Volker Turk 本人說過的話。

它會殺人，這就是我們看到的。

It's not just the violent actions and of Hon.

Cassif will mention this because he sees this on an everyday basis.

Cassif 會提到這一點，因為他每天都親眼目睹。

And also speaking in connection with what's going on right now in Washington, the office of the High Commission says justice for victims my lay the foundation for the reconstruction of Gaza.

而且，談到華盛頓現在正在發生的事情，聯合國人權事務高級專員辦事處表示，受害者的正義可能為加薩的重建奠定基礎。

And I think that this is what all the human rights community in the un, independent experts and outside the un, we all recognize ourselves in OFA to you now.

我認為，這就是聯合國裡所有人權社群、獨立專家以及聯合國以外的所有人，我們都在這份報告中看到了自己。

I mean, you've seen these dreadful images of what's been happening in Gaza, but

我的意思是，你已經看到了加薩發生的可怕景象，但是

how well informed is the Israeli public about the actions of their armed forces and indeed what perhaps his war aims were ultimately?

以色列民眾對其武裝部隊的行動，以及他們最終的戰爭目標，究竟瞭解多少？

Well, as you know, until now, although the so called ceasefire, although I have to emphasize that this is probably the most deadliest ceasefire that we've ever witnessed in the history of the world.

嗯，你知道的，到目前為止，儘管有 cosiddigt 的停火，儘管我必須強調，這可能是我們有史以來在世界歷史上見過最致命的停火。

But nevertheless, even up till now, we know that the journalists are not allowed to enter Gaza, probably because the government of Israel has a lot to hide and let alone what has been happening there throughout the genocide in the last two years and more.

但即便如此，到目前為止，我們知道記者不被允許進入加薩，這可能是因為以色列政府有很多東西要隱藏，更不用說在過去兩年多的種族滅絕期間那裡發生了什麼。

So most of the people in Israel do not have any idea about the truth in Gaza.

所以，以色列大多數人都不知道加薩的真相。

And unfortunately some of the Israelis do not even want to know the truth, because who wants to see a villain in the mirror?

不幸的是，有些以色列人甚至不想知道真相，因為誰想在鏡子裡看到一個壞蛋？

And that's one of the main reasons that it was made so easy on many Israelis to defy our screens against the genocide and the war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza.

這也是許多以色列人能夠輕易地對我們在加薩的種族滅絕、戰爭罪和反人類罪行視而不見的主要原因之一。

People don't want to see, people don't want to know.

And that's part of the genocide, you know.

這也是種族滅絕的一部分，你知道的。

And another thing I have to say is that alongside the genocide in Gaza and the ethnic cleansing in the west bank, and

還有我必須說的一點是，在加薩的種族滅絕、約旦河西岸的種族清洗，以及

this is another thing that we must emphasize, and

這是我們必須強調的另一件事，而且

of course this report emphasizes that under the smoke screen of the genocide in Gaza, there's been an ethnic cleansing going on in the west bank, including East Jerusalem, and

當然，這份報告強調，在加薩種族滅絕的煙幕下，約旦河西岸，包括東耶路撒冷，一直在進行種族清洗，

that I saw with my bare eyes because I visit the west bank very often.

這是我親眼所見，因為我經常去約旦河西岸。

But within Israel too we have to emphasize that there is a fascist regime now because we've been silenced as a member of the Knesset, which as a member of the Knesset, I'm much more lucky, I'm luckier than other so called common citizens because I have immunity.

但在以色列境內，我們也必須強調，現在有一個法西斯政權，因為身為國會議員，我們被噤聲了，身為國會議員，我比其他所謂的普通公民幸運多了，因為我有豁免權。

And although I have immunity, I've been suspended from the Knesset in the last two years altogether for 10 months because I cried out loud against the genocide, the ethnic cleansing, and

雖然我有豁免權，但在過去兩年裡，我因為大聲疾呼反對種族滅絕、種族清洗，總共被停職了 10 個月，而且

I was silenced by, partly by being sanctioned by the so called Ethics Committee of the Knesset.

我被噤聲了，部分原因是受到國會所謂的道德委員會的制裁。

And as I said, I've been suspended for 10 months.

而且正如我說的，我被停職了 10 個月。

And this is just the tip of the iceberg for other citizens who do not enjoy the immunity that I have, they are not so lucky, so to speak.

而這只是對其他沒有我這種豁免權的公民來說，冰山一角，他們不像我這麼幸運，可以這麼說。

Some of them were arrested and they fired from the workplaces or kicked out from their universities solely because they spoke against the genocide and the ethnic cleansing.

有些人被逮捕，並因為公開反對種族滅絕和種族清洗，而被解僱或趕出大學。

So those three, this unholy trinity of genocide in Gaza, ethnic cleansing in the west bank and in part of Israel itself, and

所以這三者，加薩的種族滅絕、約旦河西岸和以色列一部分地區的種族清洗，以及

fascism that runs rampant within Israel, all those are connected.

以色列境內猖獗的法西斯主義，這三者是相互關聯的。

And this report is much too came, you know, too late and said too little.

而且這份報告來得太遲了，說得太少了。

Okay, we talk about impunity, which means that nothing can really be happening here.

好的，我們談論法外特權，這意味著這裡什麼事都無法真正發生。

Is there any legal recourse or recourse of any form really?

法律上或任何形式上，真的還有什麼補救辦法嗎？

First of all, allow me to connect to what, to what offer was saying.

首先，讓我連接到剛才提的，關於什麼的提議。

從某種程度上說，這太少也太遲了。

Yes, because we have been documenting genocide.

是的，因為我們一直在記錄種族滅絕的事件。

Me, the Commission of Inquiry, Israeli scholars, betsellm, Breaking the Silence, pchr, Al Haq, Palestinian Israeli organizations and Amnesty Internationals.

我、調查委員會、以色列學者、B'Tselem、Breaking the Silence、PCHR、Al Haq、巴勒斯坦和以色列的組織，以及 Amnesty International。

The two year finding, the two year study resulting in findings that Israel is committing genocide by the Commission of Inquiry is the closest thing a judicial assessment falling short of a judicial assessment.

調查委員會關於以色列犯下種族滅絕的兩年調查結果，是最接近司法評估的了，但仍未達到司法評估的程度。

So I don't after this, what this report adds is the word ethnic cleansing, which for me is the reason why Israel is committing genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes.

所以我不認為，這份報告新增的「種族清洗」這個詞，對我來說，就是以色列犯下種族滅絕、反人類罪和戰爭罪的原因。

Israel, I mean this government supported by a substantive component of the Israeli society.

以色列，我的意思是這個政府，得到了以色列社會實質部分的支援。

Some segments of the Israeli society, particularly at the institutional level, are pursuing the cleansing of Palestine of Palestinians in Palestine.

以色列社會的某些群體，尤其是在制度層面，正在推動對巴勒斯坦的巴勒斯坦人進行清洗。

It's they're failing because let's say the international community has non derogable peremptory obligations to stop Israel, to stop selling weapons, transferring weapons, transferring funds, finances, trading with Israel.

他們正在失敗，因為，比方說，國際社會有不可剝奪的絕對義務要阻止以色列，阻止賣武器、轉移武器、轉移資金、財政、跟以色列做生意。

Not only they're failing, many states are also crushing freedom, fundamental freedoms of expression, of association of their own cities, citizens to protect Israel.

不只他們失敗，很多國家也在壓制自己公民的言論自由、結社自由，來保護以色列。

And you know what's the common trait here?

你知道這裡的共同點是什麼嗎？

It's the Israelization of western societies.

Israel is taken as an example of liberal democracies where a few people vote, the majority doesn't because those under occupation do not vote.

以色列被視為自由民主國家的範例，但少數人投票，而多數人不行，因為被佔領區的人沒有投票權。

But the majority of the people are under a brutal regime of domination and apartheid.

但大多數人民都處於殘暴的統治和種族隔離制度之下。

And this is fine with many western so called Western democrats Ofer.

很多所謂的西方民主人士對此卻無所謂。

Okay, is there anything which can be done in Israeli courts about this?

好的，在以色列的法院裡，有什麼辦法可以處理這件事嗎？

Or has the whole body Politic of Israeli society changed after this war.

還是說，經過這場戰爭，整個以色列社會的政治體系都改變了？

I still believe in domestic struggle and that's the reason that we've been trying to pursue it.

我仍然相信國內的鬥爭，這也是我們一直以來努力追求的原因。

When I say we, I refer to my political party, the Communist Party and the Democratic Front for Peace and Equality, which is equal coalition around the Communist Party.

我說的「我們」，指的是我的政黨，共產黨，以及民主和平等陣線，這是圍繞著共產黨的平等聯盟。

We succeeded to form almost two years ago with another no less than 70 organizations, human rights organizations, anti genocide, anti racism, feminist organizations, et cetera, the Peace Partnership.

大約兩年前，我們成功地與另外不少於70個組織，包括人權組織、反種族滅絕、反種族歧視、女性主義組織等，組成了和平夥伴關係。

This is a kind of an umbrella organization.

We've been succeeding in organizing demonstrations, petitions, and to struggle against the ongoing genocide and ethnic cleansing.

我們一直在成功地組織示威、請願，並為反對持續的種族滅絕和種族清洗而奮鬥。

But we do need the international community on our side.

但我們確實需要國際社會的支持。

The struggle should be a combination of local or domestic struggle that we pursue with all the difficulties.

這場鬥爭應該是我們所追求的、充滿困難的國內鬥爭的結合。

And we know that we face difficulties, including physical violence and threats and death threats.

而且我們知道我們面臨著困難，包括人身暴力、威脅和死亡威脅。

And I must say that the political assassination within Israel of one of us perish.

我必須說，以色列境內對我們其中一人進行的政治暗殺。

The thought is just around the corner, so don't be surprised if that comes very soon.

這個想法就在眼前，所以如果很快發生，請不要驚訝。

But we need to attach to this struggle the international community.

但我們需要將國際社會納入這場鬥爭。

The report says very clearly, I can quote that all states should cease the sale, transfer and diversion of arms, munitions and other military equipment to Israel, etc.

報告非常清楚地指出，我可以引用說，所有國家都應停止向以色列出售、轉讓和轉移武器、彈藥和其他軍事裝備等。

And I support it because that's the interest not only of Palestinians, but

我支持這項措施，因為這不僅是巴勒斯坦人的利益，也是