Name: 俄烏和平談判無突破！BBC 新聞 (Russia-Ukraine peace talks end without breakthrough | BBC News)
Uploaded: 2026-02-18T17:06:26.000Z
Duration: 7 min 43 s

美國調停的俄羅斯與烏克蘭和平談判進入第二天，

mediated peace talks between Russia and Ukraine have broken up after two hours, with both sides saying negotiations were difficult but that more talks had been agreed.

談判僅兩小時就結束了，雙方都表示談判很困難，但同意進行更多會談。

過去完成式

Ukraine's chief negotiator said there had been progress and a number of issues had been clarified.

烏克蘭首席談判代表表示，談判已有進展，一些問題也已釐清。

President Zelensky said the fate of occupied territory in eastern Ukraine and the future of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant were the sensitive issues on which there was no agreement.

澤倫斯基總統表示，烏克蘭東部被佔領土的命運以及札波羅熱核電廠的未來是沒有達成協議的敏感問題。

Hopes of a breakthrough remain low with Moscow continuing to demand Ukraine hands over key territory.

莫斯科持續要求烏克蘭交出關鍵領土，是以突破的希望仍然渺茫。

James Waterhouse is who's at those talks in Geneva.

在日內瓦的談判現場有 James Waterhouse。

James, tell us more about what we think has happened in those talks.

James，請告訴我們更多關於這次談判的情況。

Well, we know at the very least there has been dialogue, not just in an official format, where we've seen the Russian and Ukrainian delegations, this is opposite each other with the Americans in between.

嗯，我們至少知道，不只是在官方場合有對話，我們看到俄羅斯和烏克蘭代表團，美國在中間。

We've also seen senior delegates conversing in the corridors.

我們也看到資深代表在走廊上交談。

And, you know, one source on the Ukrainian side said that they had been productive.

而且，你知道，烏克蘭方面的一位消息人士說，這次談判很有成效。

And it seems we have two discussion groups, one on the military, where they talk about the practical steps needed to enforce a ceasefire.

看起來我們有兩個討論小組，一個是軍事方面，他們在談論執行停火所需的實際步驟。

But also there is a political group as well where you have Russia and Ukraine talking about their conditions for peace.

但也有一個政治小組，俄羅斯和烏克蘭正在討論他們對和平的條件。

And what we're told is that you can't have the political solution without the military one.

我們被告知的是，沒有軍事解決方案就無法有政治解決方案。

So I think on the military side, that is where there is more optimism in terms of monitoring the front lines.

所以，我認為在軍事方面，這是在監控前線方面更有樂觀情緒的地方。

But we're still no clearer as to what military commitments Washington is prepared to make for Ukraine to underwrite any kind of peace deal, deal that is to stop Russia from attacking in the future.

但我們仍然不清楚華盛頓準備做出什麼軍事承諾，來讓烏克蘭擔保任何形式的和平協議，也就是阻止俄羅斯未來攻擊的協議。

And as you say, with the issue of territory, Ukraine being simply forced to surrender more land, we're no clearer on that.

而且正如你所說，關於領土問題，烏克蘭被迫交出更多土地，我們在這方面仍然不清楚。

Whether the Russians are backing down from that demand, Moscow hasn't yet, or whether America is taking it off the table, there's nothing suggesting that it has.

俄羅斯是否會從這項要求退縮，莫斯科尚未，或者美國是否將其排除在外，沒有跡象表明它已經這樣做了。

And then there is the question of the nuclear power plant in Zaporizhzhia.

然後還有札波羅熱核電廠的問題。

it's been firmly under Russian control since the early days of the invasion.

自入侵初期以來，它一直牢牢地被俄羅斯控制。

It is very difficult to see how Ukraine could leverage Russia to simply give it up.

很難想像烏克蘭如何能迫使俄羅斯放棄它。

Ukraine is saying we need to be back in control of it.

烏克蘭說我們需要重新控制它。

我們可以自己處理，我們可以自己管理。

At the moment, it's not working to full capacity.

So we still have these most sticky of sticking points.

所以我們仍然有這些最棘手的僵局。

But I think by the fact we've seen two days of discussions.

但我想，我們已經看到兩天的討論了。

The dialogue at the very least will continue.

And Tuesday next week is the fourth anniversary of the full scale invasion from, from what you know, is the strategy of Ukraine basically to maintain US support for as long as possible whilst Europe ramps up its abilities.

而且下週二將是全面入侵的四週年，正如大家所知，烏克蘭的策略基本上是盡可能維持美國的支持，同時歐洲則在提升自身能力。

Unfortunately for Kyiv, those timelines don't add up.

對基輔來說，不幸的是，這些時間點對不上。

I mean, it is true that Europe is significantly increasing its defense spending in some areas.

我的意思是，歐洲確實正在某些領域大幅增加國防支出。

It's pursuing what it calls strategic autonomy.

But if we're talking about Europe not needing America in the long term, in terms of military, manufacturing or intelligence, that will take decades, if at all.

但如果我們談論的是歐洲長期不需要美國，無論是在軍事、製造業還是情報方面，這都需要數十年，甚至可能永遠不會實現。

And for Ukraine, you know, this is a full scale war.

而對烏克蘭來說，這是一場全面戰爭。

It has been fighting, it can only sustain its fight for so long.

它一直在戰鬥，它只能維持這麼久的戰鬥。

Some soldiers will tell you they've got another year, maybe two, because of the human and economic cost for the country, no less for Russia either.

有些阿兵哥會告訴你，他們還有一年，也許兩年，因為這對國家來說，對俄羅斯也是一樣，都有人力和經濟成本。

But because of the size of the different fighters in this war, it is Ukraine that will lose it first.

但由於這場戰爭中不同戰鬥方的規模，烏克蘭將會是第一個輸掉這場戰爭的。

So I think the strategy for Ukraine to sort of answer your question is to just keep America engaged.

所以我想烏克蘭的策略，來回答你的問題，就是讓美國持續介入。

It wants some kind of long term commitment.

So, you know, for a peace deal to last, Ukraine could say, right, Russia can keep hold of that territory for now.

所以，你知道的，為了讓和平協議能夠持久，烏克蘭可以說，好吧，俄羅斯現在可以暫時保有那塊領土。

We continue to survive as an independent country and we know we've got the weight of the collective west behind us.

我們將繼續作為一個獨立國家生存下去，而且我們知道我們有整個西方世界的支持。

這就是烏克蘭正在努力爭取的。

What Ukraine can't account for, can't accept, is what it's saying is a deal where America leaves it to Europe completely and Russia is allowed to replenish an attack in the future.

烏克蘭無法接受、無法容忍的是，它所說的協議，美國將它完全交給歐洲，而俄羅斯卻被允許在未來補充兵力並發動攻擊。

These are the cracks in the floorboards that Ukraine is trying to avoid.

這些就是烏克蘭試圖避免的地板裂縫。

And it is not in a position of strength at the moment.

而且它目前並不在一個強勢的地位。

And it is the Russians, as the evidence suggests, that are happy to continue waging this war and allowing these discussions to stretch out.

而且證據顯示，是俄羅斯樂於繼續這場戰爭，並讓這些討論拖延下去。

But clearly all sides need to also show that they're willing to, to take part.

但顯然，所有各方都需要展現出他們願意參與。

James Waterhouse at those talks in Geneva, thank you very much indeed.

James Waterhouse，非常感謝您參與在日內瓦的談判。

Well, Arisha Savage is the Deputy Director of Russia and Eurasia Program at Chatham House.

Arisha Savage 是 Chatham House 俄羅斯與歐亞計畫的副主任。

She gave me her assessment of those talks.

她對這次談判給了我她的看法。

It's obvious that we have the most insurmountable difficulty, which is that Russia is not suing for peace and it's not willing to discuss and to compromise on its maximalist agenda.

很明顯，我們面臨最難克服的困難，那就是俄羅斯並沒有尋求和平，也不願意討論並妥協其極端的要求。

The region in Donbass, that it demands Ukraine to capitulate without a fight.

頓巴斯地區，俄羅斯要求烏克蘭不戰而降。

It's not just emotional or a human issue.

It is also a strategic military outpost, a network of fortified cities that actually favors the defenders and disfavors Russian counteroffensive. So Putin is putting this specifically front and central.

它也是一個戰略軍事據點，一個堅固城市網絡，這實際上對防守方有利，對俄羅斯的攻勢不利，所以普丁將此置於最前面。

he needs that staging post for future invasion of Ukraine because as we know, he fundamentally rejects the existence of Ukraine as a sovereign state.

他需要這個前進基地來進攻烏克蘭，因為我們知道，他從根本上就拒絕烏克蘭作為一個主權國家的存在。

So what is, is the Ukrainian wider strategy here?

那麼，烏克蘭在這裡的整體戰略是什麼？

因為他們仍然需要美國的支持。

And yet, as we were hearing from our colleagues there in Kyiv, you know, President Trump has repeated his, his wish for this to be, you know, to a deal to be reached.

然而，就像我們從基輔的同事那裡聽到的那樣，川普總統一再表達他希望達成協議。

There's always this ongoing fear about US withdrawal of support.

總是有這種持續的擔憂，擔心美國會撤回支持。

And indeed, nobody wants more peace than Ukrainian government and Ukrainian people.

的確，沒有人比烏克蘭政府和烏克蘭人民更希望和平了。

But it has to be a durable and just peace.

但這必須是持久且公正的和平。

So they engage with a format that was created by the United States by Trump.

所以他們參與了由美國、由川普創建的模式。

On the other hand, they are working hard with European allies, with the coalition of the willing to ramp up Ukrainian defense and to make sure that the front line is moving in the other direction so that Ukraine can negotiate from the position of strength.

另一方面，他們正努力與歐洲盟友、與「意願聯盟」合作，加強烏克蘭的防禦，並確保戰線朝另一個方向推進，讓烏克蘭能夠從強勢地位進行談判。

And it's fundamentally now trying to win the technological race to inflict higher lethality on Russian army, moving from 35,000 dead and injured to 50,000, as it was declared by Ukraine's new defense minister.

而現在，他們從根本上試圖贏得技術競賽，以對俄羅斯軍隊造成更高的殺傷力，將其從烏克蘭新國防部長宣佈的 35,000 名死傷，提升到 50,000 名。

And last but not least, increasing pressure on Russia to understand that they cannot bluff anymore, that sanctions will be serious and Russian oil revenues will be decreasing and its shadow fleet will be curtailed in its transportation routes to global markets.

最後，也要增加對俄羅斯的壓力，讓他們明白自己無法再虛張聲勢了，制裁將是嚴厲的，俄羅斯的石油收入會減少，他們的影子船隊在通往全球市場的運輸路線上也會受到限制。